Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Reddit Gold]

This isn't any kind of mud. It is wind blown silt. Loess. These fine particles retain moisture around them by surface tension. Not too fine like silty clays that seal the water above them to run off and not too large like sand that drain the water through them. This is what makes it an ideal grain growing region. It takes a very long time to dry out as the soil essentially acts like a sponge.

A bottomless morass of goopy black mud. Special tracks and tires ain't gonna save their ass. Only summer weather.

Really gets me wet ngl.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Whether or not that makes him "corrupt" within the western meaning as opposed to the Russian, I don't know. Also, it remains irrelevant to the current unpleasantness, which is what I'm trying to discuss in this thread. Putin didn't invade Ukraine just to be a jerk, to throw his weight around or to grab land - or, at least, that's what an objective look at the available evidence tells me.

Any other reason than annexation would be delusional & you're a copium huffing retard for believing there's any higher or nobler cause to any of this. Russia has lost the trust of the entire globe to the point Chechnya & Belarus are hesitant to help them. The cost of this invasion has been sky high for Putin and his administration to the point he's now pumping as much natural gas into Germany as possible to make up for the lost revenue. His actions have fucked Russia. If he's not doing it to take the land then he's a fucking idiot.

 

[Lone MacReady]

Any other reason than annexation would be delusional & you're a copium huffing retard for believing there's any higher or nobler cause to any of this. Russia has lost the trust of the entire globe to the point Chechnya & Belarus are hesitant to help them. The cost of this invasion has been sky high for Putin and his administration to the point he's now pumping as much natural gas into Germany as possible to make up for the lost revenue. His actions have fucked Russia. If he's not doing it to take the land then he's a fucking idiot.

Conquering without keeping would make him as retarded as modern day America. For the farmland alone Ukraine is a good prize.

 

[White_N]

Another staggering evidences against Ukies
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Don't be hard on Lavrov. While speaking with foreigners without translators, he occasionally calls them "stupid morons" in Russian, so they don't understand what he says. So the old man kind of grew on me.

 

[Margo Martindale]

Interesting bit from today's Russian Ministry of Defense briefing:
The use of hypersonic missile to destroy a large fuel depot in the village of KONSTANTINOVKA was required due to its invisibility and invulnerability offered by enemy air and missile defense.
Combat use of "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile confirmed its effectiveness by destroying highly protected special enemy facilities. The strikes against Ukrainian military infrastructure objects by this missile system will be continued in the course of the Special Military Operation.
I would like to point out that the use of hypersonic missile of "Kinzhal" was carried out from a range of more than 1000 kilometers. The flight time of the hypersonic missile was less than 10 minutes.
Significantly, the "Kinzhal" system was used with a conventional warhead. But experts are well aware of the capabilities of this weapon, not only in terms of range, but also in terms of the type of warhead carried.


It's under Russian control for few weeks now, I guess they're keeping the flags until the referendum.

History in the making, that is the first ever operational use of a hypersonic missile

Damn that thing is fast, I doubt any current weapons system is capable of intercepting it.

 

[kuuu]

Previously the only vids of protesters I saw were them screeching "go home" at Russian army with impunity.
Guess some new orders came in.

I wonder where that artillery shell went to..
Unless it was a blank.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Any other reason than annexation would be delusional...

Mmmmkay. And just because you say so, too.

...you're a copium huffing retard for believing there's any higher or nobler cause to any of this.

I don't know whether I'd use the adjective "noble" to describe this whole unpleasant affair.

Russia has lost the trust of the entire globe...

I didn't know you knew everyone in the entire world, particularly highly-placed decision makers, such that you could make so broad a claim. Or do you possess mind-reading powers the rest of us don't?

If either is the case, you've got better things to do than post on the farms.

The cost of this invasion has been sky high for Putin and his administration...

At last, a point you're not demonstrably wrong about. Sure, the cost at present appears to be high; whether or not it will ultimately end up as high as it seems to be right now is an issue for later. Also, there's a legitimate question of whether or not it was worth it. Again, time - not you - will tell.

If he's not doing it to take the land then he's a fucking idiot.

He may or may not be an idiot, but regardless of what's allowed for in your philosophy, it's not about grabbing land.

Anything else?

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

History in the making, that is the first ever operational use of a hypersonic missile

Damn that thing is fast, I doubt any current weapons system is capable of intercepting it.

For now. Eventually something will come along to counter it, and then the cycle begins again.

 

[just a banana]

Here's some Azov dron footage of the gigantuous metal plant in Azovstal getting blasted.
I suppose they'd have much rather taken it intact.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Gee, I wonder why Poland hates Russia so much.

I mean, they SAVED them from the Nazis.

They also saved them in record time, rushing to Poland's liberation.

And then, they had fair elections, where Poland joined Soviet sphere through fair and democratic elections.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

At last, a point you're not demonstrably wrong about.

You haven't demonstrated a thing, you've only deflected to Zelensky when Putin is criticized.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

History in the making, that is the first ever operational use of a hypersonic missile

Damn that thing is fast, I doubt any current weapons system is capable of intercepting it.

There are quite a few of these counter-missile air defense systems. Anything capable of intercepting ballistic missiles should be capable of intercepting it as ballistic missiles on re-entry are moving faster than hyper-sonic. The wrinkle here is that these things are not operating on a ballistic trajectory. They apparently can do evasive maneuvering in the terminal phase.

 

[Desu Vult]

While the Sub2000 is better than nothing, the effective range of a 9mm carbine is at most 150 yards on a good day and it won't punch through anything resembling armor, so it will most likely be used by civilians against other civilians.

Where does it specify it's Sub2000s? Kel Tec makes a variety of 5.56 and 308 rifles as well.

 

[NynchLiggers]

Any other reason than annexation would be delusional

Are you actually listening to the reddit geopolitcal experts? Russia would not fully annex ukraine even in the best case scenario for obvious reasons.

 

[Elbereth]

Don't be hard on Lavrov. While speaking with foreigners without translators, he occasionally calls them "stupid morons" in Russian, so they don't understand what he says. So the old man kind of grew on me.

I just cant get over how hilarious he looks with laser eyes

Nothing personal, kiddo

 

[Getting tard comed]

Ending like the Winter War is how I see the best case scenario for Ukraine at the moment. Russia gets to declare victory having 'liberated and denazified' Donetsk/Luhansk + a bit of extra land, Ukraine retains its independence with a strengthened national identity due to having stood against an invader.

The best case scenario is Putins demands + the removal of the current government? Ok, the. Why hasn't Zelensky accepted this yet?

Any other reason than annexation would be delusional & you're a copium huffing retard for believing there's any higher or nobler cause to any of this. Russia has lost the trust of the entire globe to the point Chechnya & Belarus are hesitant to help them. The cost of this invasion has been sky high for Putin and his administration to the point he's now pumping as much natural gas into Germany as possible to make up for the lost revenue. His actions have fucked Russia. If he's not doing it to take the land then he's a fucking idiot.

Then I guess Putin is huffing copium since the Russian demands have been known since the beginning of this. They were known to Zelensky before the invasion occurred.

He's lost the trust of the globe, except China, India, Brazil, Iraq, Iran, Isreal, Indonesia, and whatever country Dutante or w/e his name is runs. The lines are drawn, if you think the side with the manufacturing advantage is going to lose vs the side with the media that's an opinion to have. I tend to trust more in war war than talk talk but it's clown world afterall.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Where does it specify it's Sub2000s? Kel Tec makes a variety of 5.56 and 308 rifles as well.

In the article it says 9mm folding rifles

 

[Lone MacReady]

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Gee, I wonder why Poland hates Russia so much.

I mean, they SAVED them from the Nazis.

They also saved them in record time, rushing to Poland's liberation.

And then, they had fair elections, where Poland joined Soviet sphere through fair and democratic elections.

Seeing PedoJoe's rictus grin in person would make me lose faith in all the world's good. "We got your backs!" lol.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

While the Sub2000 is better than nothing, the effective range of a 9mm carbine is at most 150 yards on a good day and it won't punch through anything resembling armor, so it will most likely be used by civilians against other civilians.

That's exactly the use. The Territorials are functioning as essentially a Home Guard and they are running the checkpoints and being air raid wardens and running aid stations and guarding stockpiles. Civil Defense duties. They needs arms, not necessarily good ones, to do these jobs. This frees up the better gear for combat troops.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

There is a saying: "In USSR people stood in a queue to the enlistment office. Nowadays people only queue in front of an ATM."

In the USSR, people queued endlessly, for everything. Your "saying" sounds like something you pulled out of your ass.

He doesn't want to give power to the west in this country, sure, I'll agree to that, but he is doing that at the cost of """"his"""" people.

There's always a cost; that doesn't mean it isn't for the benefit of his people. Are you an American? - The Rebellion Revolutionary War was at a cost to the people who would go on to become a new nation.

what you've written not only does not contradict what I wrote, it actually agrees with it.