Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

-J had formed a small hive of online trans girlfriends with some convoluted web of how they were all dating/e-fucking each other
-They had started taking estrogen from a friend's prescription
-Friend was also 5+ years older, may or may not have been sexually involved with J
-J had decided they're a lesbian (despite having been attracted to me at some point, and only being interested in trans women)
-Countless new transbian girlfriends and breakups, I can't keep track
-Accidentally being outed because their mom found the estrogen pills J was illegally taking
Tale as old as time; there needs to be an article about this in Woman's Day or whatever suburban moms read. Online grooming has become so much more drawn out and sophisticated than "meet me IRL for statutory rape."

I'm the catalyst for them leaning too hard into a femboy/lesbian/whatever fetish and kind of ruining their life, so I feel like I at least owe them some help. But I honestly don't know what to do or if there's even anything I can do.
Read the above part again. You high-school kinda-dated a horny autist who went online and said "groom me." Blaming yourself for his trainwreck of a life is like like blaming John Connally for the Kennedy assassination.
 
anyone that claims to be a tranny is mentally ill and should be shot in the back of the head with prejudice
I think that mental help professionals should look more deeply as to examining WHY an individual wants to troon out and treat the underlying causes instead of encouraging unhealthy delusions and body images. How is being trans any different from any other body image disorder? We do not hand bulimics icapec syrup.
 
I think that mental help professionals should look more deeply as to examining WHY an individual wants to troon out and treat the underlying causes instead of encouraging unhealthy delusions and body images. How is being trans any different from any other body image disorder? We do not hand bulimics icapec syrup.
Psychology might as well be philosophy, as in, not an actual science and a lot of it is politically motivated to agree with whatever ideology is in place. Psychiatry also gets too much credit as a lot of it is still just shooting arrows in the dark. Every day i loose more faith in the mental health field, there's a real need but we only have glorified witch doctors filling in so far.
 
I think that mental help professionals should look more deeply as to examining WHY an individual wants to troon out and treat the underlying causes instead of encouraging unhealthy delusions and body images. How is being trans any different from any other body image disorder? We do not hand bulimics icapec syrup.
Well that would be dandy but the troons have persuaded most governments in the west that this is "conversion therapy" and "gatekeeping".
 
Well, @Taco Salad the only thing that's notable about your ex is that he managed to annoy some coomers on Reddit by allegedly running an grift with his ever-increasing chest size. (Does an Y Cup even exists IRL?)

He might be using some kind of prosthetic vest or those might be actual implants; but I really don't care.

It looks like he may have begun his fetish model career with a prosthetic vest (he had started wearing a smaller one towards the end of our time together), but I'm pretty sure he did get actual implants later on, unless pics like these just use some crazy good photoshopping skills:
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(yes, he's got an armpit hair fetish too, lmao)

Hah, I love the multiple people on the Reddit post pointing out the blatantly obvious fact that he's actually a dude in a dress.
Amusingly, he posted twice on Curiouscat in response to questions about being transgender (one specifically refers to that reddit post):
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He just outright lies and denies being transgender. I felt like his earliest instagram/twitter pics were obvious enough, but there ain't no denying this:
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And if people are still blind and think he might not be trans? No problem, I snagged a few older FB posts where he outright states the fact:
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As the final nail in the coffin, I found a few pics from before he started outwardly trooning out from his mom's FB as well:
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I don't want to stir up too much trouble for myself, but at the same time I think it's a really shitty thing to just outright lie to your fans and paying customers like that. Like, he's got 50k followers and makes at least enough to pay for his rent+bills on Patreon. I'm sure there are still plenty of people that would keep supporting him and not give a shit that he's trans and that's fine, but I feel bad for the people who are being led on that he's an actual woman when they aren't down for troon porn. I wonder if I should make this shit public in a place where his fans can actually see it. Idgaf if they keep supporting him or not, I just think the people throwing money at him ought to know the truth.

Here's a slightly amusing post I nabbed from his FB showing his passion of fictional tits:
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Edit: Ah, looks like my ex was mentioned on lolcow.farm, too. Twice.
It brings a smile to my face to see others ripping on him, and idgaf if that makes me an awful person. 😏

Edit 2: Oh my god, I found a 10-page Google Doc he wrote with the sole purpose of defending porno-sized boobs, LOL. I am fucking ashamed to live in a world so insane that even my ex isn't quite considered a lolcow.
 
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It looks like he may have begun his fetish model career with a prosthetic vest (he had started wearing a smaller one towards the end of our time together), but I'm pretty sure he did get actual implants later on, unless pics like these just use some crazy good photoshopping skills:
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(yes, he's got an armpit hair fetish too, lmao)

Hah, I love the multiple people on the Reddit post pointing out the blatantly obvious fact that he's actually a dude in a dress.
Amusingly, he posted twice on Curiouscat in response to questions about being transgender (one specifically refers to that reddit post):

He just outright lies and denies being transgender. I felt like his earliest instagram/twitter pics were obvious enough, but there ain't no denying this:

And if people are still blind and think he might not be trans? No problem, I snagged a few older FB posts where he outright states the fact:

As the final nail in the coffin, I found a few pics from before he started outwardly trooning out from his mom's FB as well:

I don't want to stir up too much trouble for myself, but at the same time I think it's a really shitty thing to just outright lie to your fans and paying customers like that. Like, he's got 50k followers and makes at least enough to pay for his rent+bills on Patreon. I'm sure there are still plenty of people that would keep supporting him and not give a shit that he's trans and that's fine, but I feel bad for the people who are being led on that he's an actual woman when they aren't down for troon porn. I wonder if I should make this shit public in a place where his fans can actually see it. Idgaf if they keep supporting him or not, I just think the people throwing money at him ought to know the truth.

Here's a slightly amusing post I nabbed from his FB showing his passion of fictional tits:
Dude looks like Richard Ramirez. :stress:
 
I think that mental help professionals should look more deeply as to examining WHY an individual wants to troon out and treat the underlying causes instead of encouraging unhealthy delusions and body images. How is being trans any different from any other body image disorder? We do not hand bulimics icapec syrup.
Death is the only solution for the mentally ill.
 
I don't want to stir up too much trouble for myself, but at the same time I think it's a really shitty thing to just outright lie to your fans and paying customers like that.
In regards with paying for camwhores & porn, it's all part of the game to be "disappointed" when something turns out to be fake. After all, it's usually an LARP that you're wasting your money on; and let's face it: They normally don't grow that big without some degree of sagging.
Well that would be dandy but the troons have persuaded most governments in the west that this is "conversion therapy" and "gatekeeping".
Ironically, what the trans right movement regularly advocates for is conversion therapy.
 
I posted this already in another thread so I’ll keep it breif here. My cousin Rich was a vulnerable dude but when medicated was amazing. He got to college, nobody was watching his internet history, so he stopped taking his meds and trooned out. He killed himself back when Covid started after he started taking his meds again.
 
In regards with paying for camwhores & porn, it's all part of the game to be "disappointed" when something turns out to be fake. After all, it's usually an LARP that you're wasting your money on; and let's face it: They normally don't grow that big without some degree of sagging.

Ironically, what the trans right movement regularly advocates for is conversion therapy.
Yes, why is it not considered "conversion" when you have all of these troons on social media and elsewhere trying to "hatch eggs"?
 
It looks like he may have begun his fetish model career with a prosthetic vest (he had started wearing a smaller one towards the end of our time together), but I'm pretty sure he did get actual implants later on, unless pics like these just use some crazy good photoshopping skills:
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(yes, he's got an armpit hair fetish too, lmao)

Hah, I love the multiple people on the Reddit post pointing out the blatantly obvious fact that he's actually a dude in a dress.
Amusingly, he posted twice on Curiouscat in response to questions about being transgender (one specifically refers to that reddit post):

He just outright lies and denies being transgender. I felt like his earliest instagram/twitter pics were obvious enough, but there ain't no denying this:

And if people are still blind and think he might not be trans? No problem, I snagged a few older FB posts where he outright states the fact:

As the final nail in the coffin, I found a few pics from before he started outwardly trooning out from his mom's FB as well:

I don't want to stir up too much trouble for myself, but at the same time I think it's a really shitty thing to just outright lie to your fans and paying customers like that. Like, he's got 50k followers and makes at least enough to pay for his rent+bills on Patreon. I'm sure there are still plenty of people that would keep supporting him and not give a shit that he's trans and that's fine, but I feel bad for the people who are being led on that he's an actual woman when they aren't down for troon porn. I wonder if I should make this shit public in a place where his fans can actually see it. Idgaf if they keep supporting him or not, I just think the people throwing money at him ought to know the truth.

Here's a slightly amusing post I nabbed from his FB showing his passion of fictional tits:

Edit: Ah, looks like my ex was mentioned on lolcow.farm, too. Twice.
It brings a smile to my face to see others ripping on him, and idgaf if that makes me an awful person. 😏

That is quite a story, thanks for sharing your insights.

It seems this individual has attention seeking tendencies which result in flaunting online, while also being very sensitive to the wrong kinds of feedback.
 
Man, all these stories are such a bummer. I guess I'll share mine.
My best friend from growing up just joined the tranny cult, sort of gradually over the last year or so. We became friends in middle school, and even though in the later part of high school I started hanging out with new people who I spent most of my time with, we remained close, We got our first apartment together, I was even the maid of honor in her wedding. She was always weird in that artist kind of way, but she's smart, talented, and a hard worker, and was mostly a rational person when it came to most things. She has a very successful business and has always seemed very confident. She's straight, a bit of a tomboy, but always dated men. But, the men she dates are always very, I don't know, submissive I guess? The type of man who seems kind of gay, men who to me seem like total pussies. She married this one guy but they didn't last long. The thing is, she was always a total fag hag, obsessed with gay men but I always thought it was just a weird part of her personality and it didn't really affect me so I didn't think much of it. She and I sort of drifted apart over the last few years, we would talk every so often, but most of what I knew about what was going on embarrassingly came from Instagram.

So, I saw that she had started hanging out with some local drag queens. Eventually, she became a "drag king" and made up this whole character.. She made all kinds of costumes and began performing in drag shows. When that started, I knew this was a bad sign. The next step was her announcing that "being called a he" made her feel good and she was now non-binary. Not surprisingly, the trannies and drag queens she was hanging around totally love-bombed her, saying things about how she's a real man, how "handsome" she is, etc. Very soon after that, she was off to the doctor to have her tits lopped off. She went on social media and made a long post about how she was finally in the body she always wanted. Now, knowing her for years, she never said or did anything that would indicate she had any issues with her gender or body, tits or otherwise. Of course, she got hundreds of people commenting "Yasss king" and how glad they were she was finally going to be happy. Now she's decided to live fully as a man and has changed her name to her drag king name, and thanked the trans community for "making [her] realize who [she] really is". Also, I think she's dating a drag queen. She finally got the true fag she always wanted. It's absolutely ridiculous. So, again, I pieced this all together from lurking on her social media. She never said anything to me face-to-face about it, even when it first started and we were still talking. I guess she knows that I wouldn't be positive about it, it's not a huge secret how I feel about trannies, so I guess that's it. I could reach out to her, but I wouldn't really even know what to say, and I know she's not going to engage in any type of discussion about it that isn't congratulatory. I feel like we might never really talk again because I certainly won't be able to talk or hang out with her without making it clear how dumb I think she's being. It's very sad. She looks so gross now. She used to be very pretty with a great body and now she looks like a mutilated freak. (She's got wide hips so it looks so fucking weird with the flat chest and huge scars.)
I always thought it was just men who did the "can't date a lesbian so I'll become one" sort of thing, but I was wrong. She loves fags, so she's trying to become a fag so she'll have a chance to date one it seems. She's not a teenager, I'm almost positive she wasn't diddled as a child, she has none of the hallmarks of what I thought most FTMs had. She went from pretty normal to cutting off her tits within two years of hanging out with drag queens. This shit really is like a cult.
 
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I can't quote you. Please, read what you wrote back in a few days, so you might see better how you are certainly not the catalyst for your friend's trooning out. Saying that you were is a manipulation tactic, you see it all the time in 'trans widow' stories. This is also why I think you should keep your distance from J because it sounds like he's now regretting his choices and wants to use you as a support blanky. That's not how friendships work, and you're not obliged to fix his life or his depression. Unless he really does detransition and more importantly apologises to you or at least is willing to admit that his behaviour was not okay (anyone who talks about 'girldick' in normal conversation should go kiss a train) and he was wrong about many things, stay away, because nothing has changed.

Your friend was groomed online. starting with anime trope girl. You tried to be a good partner and a good friend, but it's really hard and often impossible to break the toxic hold that the online has on some people. Just focus on your own life for now.

I posted this already in another thread so I’ll keep it breif here. My cousin Rich was a vulnerable dude but when medicated was amazing. He got to college, nobody was watching his internet history, so he stopped taking his meds and trooned out. He killed himself back when Covid started after he started taking his meds again.
Jesus Christ, thats horrible. I'm sorry for your loss.

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I actually have an update to my own trans encounter story. In summary, a good decade ago my good friend brought along a HSTS who was starting to transition from her hometown, and as good progressive females we tried to help this person, who then proceeded to skinwalk my friend, sleep around like crazy after his SRS without disclosing he was trans before a date, and spout shit like women should give up their womb to transwomen so they can have babies because having babies is their 'right' (fuck bioholes though, they have no rights). We cut off contact, of course.

Now more than a decade later this HSTS reached out to my friend and actually apologised and asked to restore contact. He now has a boyfriend and a stable relationship, goes to college, and has by all accounts settled down. He was very ashamed of how he acted and afraid to contact my friend because he thought she was still angry at him.

I'm not sure if I trust this person yet, but I will give him credit for apologising for shitty behaviour. I did not expect it at all. Maybe he finally grew up and became a decent person.
 
Keeping mine as brief as possible cause I'm still heated about it, don't want to rant too much. Basically, my partner's co-worker met an old friend who trooned, became addicted to VRchat and now he's trooning out. He's been dressing in loli avatars and doing god knows what all night in VR. Likely cheating. Makes no sense. His wife is god damn gorgeous and they have two wonderful, healthy daughters. They're so young and he's leaving them to go LARP as a loli in a fucking video game. Wife is absolutely devastated, she's still in love with him and he's pulling bullshit saying "they can be together as lesbians". She drew her boundaries and now that he won't get his dick wet he's regretting things. Not enough to get him off the crazy train, though. His kids are still in diapers and he's the breadwinner... he walked from his job for about a week to start Estrogen and to "think about leaving". His wife makes half of what she would need to keep the house and feed the kids. He said he only chose to stay cause he needed to fund his "new normal". Asshole blew his check on hoochie clothes online and had the audacity to ask my partner to pay for his lunch today. Everyone is fucking done and the dude is so delusional he won't listen. He won't go to therapy or accept that he's manic and spiraling because he's just now realizing he isn't straight. We think he cheated online and potentially in person with some dude, too. His closest friends and wife concluded that none of this started til after he met up with his old buddy from the corps that's now a ~lady~ and living a super brave life in the bustling downtown queer scene or whatever. They reconnected and he just wasn't the same after. I think they fucked but that's just my pessimistic tinfoil.

I don't know what the hell is going on anymore but I'm glad everyone else is in the camp of "nah" with me. Consoling his wife has been my main priority personally, feels like she's been ignored through all this. Everyone just wants to talk to homeboy and pry about his troon friend. I think his wife and more importantly, his babies, are more deserving of everyone's attention.

God damn fuckin trannies, you can't escape them. Even out in the boonies. Getting real sick and tired of this social contagion. Tired of seeing families destroyed and kids being hurt. :slayer::aug:

My heart goes out to everyone ITT. Insert big group hug here.
 
Keeping mine as brief as possible cause I'm still heated about it, don't want to rant too much. Basically, my partner's co-worker met an old friend who trooned, became addicted to VRchat and now he's trooning out. He's been dressing in loli avatars and doing god knows what all night in VR. Likely cheating. Makes no sense. His wife is god damn gorgeous and they have two wonderful, healthy daughters. They're so young and he's leaving them to go LARP as a loli in a fucking video game. Wife is absolutely devastated, she's still in love with him and he's pulling bullshit saying "they can be together as lesbians". She drew her boundaries and now that he won't get his dick wet he's regretting things. Not enough to get him off the crazy train, though. His kids are still in diapers and he's the breadwinner... he walked from his job for about a week to start Estrogen and to "think about leaving". His wife makes half of what she would need to keep the house and feed the kids. He said he only chose to stay cause he needed to fund his "new normal". Asshole blew his check on hoochie clothes online and had the audacity to ask my partner to pay for his lunch today. Everyone is fucking done and the dude is so delusional he won't listen. He won't go to therapy or accept that he's manic and spiraling because he's just now realizing he isn't straight. We think he cheated online and potentially in person with some dude, too. His closest friends and wife concluded that none of this started til after he met up with his old buddy from the corps that's now a ~lady~ and living a super brave life in the bustling downtown queer scene or whatever. They reconnected and he just wasn't the same after. I think they fucked but that's just my pessimistic tinfoil.

I don't know what the hell is going on anymore but I'm glad everyone else is in the camp of "nah" with me. Consoling his wife has been my main priority personally, feels like she's been ignored through all this. Everyone just wants to talk to homeboy and pry about his troon friend. I think his wife and more importantly, his babies, are more deserving of everyone's attention.

God damn fuckin trannies, you can't escape them. Even out in the boonies. Getting real sick and tired of this social contagion. Tired of seeing families destroyed and kids being hurt. :slayer::aug:

My heart goes out to everyone ITT. Insert big group hug here.
Alright, everybody gather around and pet the kitty.

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Welp, I just lost one of the only people I considered a real friend today.

It’s fucking rich he’s going to be a woman or whatever now considering in the past he paid for a sad looking Eastern Euro hooker while being anti-abortion for no personal reason. He was the gay kid at school but realised his Mexican boyfriend he almost married was just grooming him for butt stuff and plane tickets when we were >19, ever since then all of his attractions have been simping for the most mediocre and borderline-BPD women. I knew it was only a matter of time ever since he hooked up with a girl who goes by he/him but lets my friend fuck her in the nonbinary pussy constantly. And he’s autistic. It is total clownworld how a white middle class background won’t even protect you from this shit anymore, if anything it makes you guiltier for not bending over for it and throwing your money down the endless hole. I’m waiting for the shoe to drop on my other white straight male friend because he is pozzloaded to hell by his gay uni and likes tranny memes on Facebook. Literally rooms with a hulk in a dress and they don’t even realise what a sausage fest it is, the furthest thing from womanhood.

They won’t know that I’ll be mourning and then I’ll keep my distance and get friends who aren’t such fucking faggots.

edit: I think it’s important to note that he’s not like most cases in this thread, again, he was very content with his life in the last few times we spoke, he comes from an ordinary family, he looks and sounds completely normal (not faggy and no troon flags unless I look at it in a really sexist way) and has held multiple respectable jobs. Doesn’t even have spergy hobbies besides a few nerdy interests. He gains little from transitioning, he’s not the type to do it for the asspats. This is why it felt like a shock even though in other ways it was inevitable.
 
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