Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Spicey McHaggis]

It makes logical sense for Ukraine to be using old weaponry since everybody's conscripted to fight, it makes no sense for the professional invading army to be using old shit at all. And that shit's mounted on a farm trailer, is Russia running out of shit already?

My guess is they just "requisitioned" it. I suspect these guys are in the militia, looks like Russia is just grabbing anything at random from old soviet depots to give as aid. Still, it's a working machine gun that shoots an in production cartridge, so it has some use.

 

[Tactical Wizard]

It makes logical sense for Ukraine to be using old weaponry since everybody's conscripted to fight, it makes no sense for the professional invading army to be using old shit at all. And that shit's mounted on a farm trailer, is Russia running out of shit already?

Where were you when they were putting all of their logistics on civilian vehicles two weeks ago?

 

[Marley Rathbone]

Palestinians slam Zelensky's speech to the Knesset

https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/palestinians-slam-zelenskys-speech-knesset

 

[Walrus and Carpenter]

It makes logical sense for Ukraine to be using old weaponry since everybody's conscripted to fight, it makes no sense for the professional invading army to be using old shit at all. And that shit's mounted on a farm trailer, is Russia running out of shit already?

That's not a trailer, it's a three-wheeled truck with a motorcycle front end. I don't know if that's any better but I felt I should clarify.

 

[Simpadoo]

Russia in the same boat USA is in now.
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Chip fab's need lots of neon. Now China is going to end up having full control over the world's neon gas supply because Ukraine's neon refineries are fucked. Ukraine is where the rest of the world went for neon. Guess what, China refines their own and will still buy Russia's while the rest of the world wont.

You know what else is needed for chip manufacturing? Palladium.
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You know who has been making big moves in Africa to buy up all the mining companies? Ill give you all a hint. It rhymes with CHYNA.

So the USA is finally starting to talk about re-shoring chip manufacturing. Orange Man was right. We will build some fabs here again, great. But we can't make the basic raw materials anymore needed to feed that fab. And we don't make simple low profit components like capacitors and resistors anymore. We off shored all that to china because profit. Those factories all knocked down, superfund sites declared. Now we can't make the rest of the parts needed to populate that circuit board. Sad.

The USA spent 40 years gutting its manufacturing capability. I really don't think it has the will to reverse any of that.

Doesn’t Baja California have large palladium deposits?

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

I don’t think the US has learned a fucking thing.

The military has, the deep state has not, the politicians and apparatchiks in D.C. are the braindead cancer rotting out the country. The US military learned a lot from Iraq and Afghanistan, just like it did Vietnam. Brain dead fucks like Bush forcing the military in idiotic wars is not something they can avoid.

Ah yes, they have been expecting sanctions. That's why they put 460 billion USD (of their 600) in Federal Reserve, just to be frozen

a half trillion is not much relative to the amount of churn that Russia was getting out of those dollars.

 

[Lone MacReady]

that shit isn't coming back. people who weren't alive in the 70s missed out on the total collapse of rail and other heavy industries in america because it wasn't profitable. that plus unions would chimp out and go on strike regularly. offshoring to singapore, malaysia, korea, japan, taiwan, china, etc. killed two birds with one stone: let the dirty chinks do the low margin grunt work of manufacturing and also bust unions here.

As >They< say, it all comes down to Shekels. So sorry if your homeland is nogged and zogged in the process goyim...

 

[hooboy]

@Jump

Despite their numerous flaws, the Chinks seem to be able to plan for a future society, not for the next quarter. US & Canada are so rotten they couldn't stomach decreased profits for a few quarters even if it meant keeping a global hegemony.

that’s mostly just the fault of democracy, China is a rape empire that doesnt rule through consent and could survive the most retarded energy prices because the Chinese can’t vote their rapists out of power.

 

[Elbereth]

a half trillion is not much relative to the amount of churn that Russia was getting out of those dollars.

Actually getting 3/4 of your reserves - that you patiently saved up for this war - frozen is some sort of masterful 6d chess.

TRUST THE PLAN. Q.

 

[Aidan]

It makes logical sense for Ukraine to be using old weaponry since everybody's conscripted to fight, it makes no sense for the professional invading army to be using old shit at all. And that shit's mounted on a farm trailer, is Russia running out of shit already?

Probably Russian due to the Z and white armband but don't forget there are technically pro-Russian Ukrainians fighting as well who are using pretty much whatever they can.
It wouldn't surprise me if some guys saw this and just wanted a free MG either way.

 

[Jump]

Oh, no. They don't. The Chinese economy is based on a housing bubble that is in the middle of collapsing, and the current leadership of China is casting away the policies that made China rich in the first place.

They did lots of reckless funding moves to get where they are now that will fuck them eventually. But that doesn't change the fact that the USA can't build a microwave oven let alone a F35 with out some part of the supply chain going though Chan. The world locking out Russia's raw material exports just cemented that fact forever.

My schizo theory is China is going to start making bold moves to grow CIPS and make the petroyuan a real thing. Getting the Yuan to reserve currency status so they can mimic the US Fed and just print their way out of trouble.
I'll take my big red X on this but I think it is their long term goal and plan to fix the bubble.

 

[BaldAndMorallyBankrupt]

Reading some arm chair generals here and i'll just say it plainly, unless we invent something that does everything a tank does but better then tanks will continue to stay relevant.

Simply because it's always going to be useful to have a highly moble system that can provide protection and high fire power.

Failures in armored warfare are failures of crew training and failures of doctrine. Misuse and misunderstanding of their capabilities.

Like Javelins for example, they have a range of 2000 meters, most tanks can accurately engage targets at over 3000 meters, iirc longest range tank kill was somewhere between 6000 and 7000 meters. So if that extended reach isn't taken advantage of, it's not exactly the tanks fault.

If you just sit in an open field to get picked off by artillery instead of minizing your heat signature, camouflaging and entrenching your tank, that's not exactly the tanks fault.

If you engage targets from the same static position, not even bothering to disguise your sillouete, then its not exactly the tanks fault if you get acquired and blown up.

Countermeasures are like first-aid kits, you should absolutely have them and know how to use them, but you shouldn't need to use them if you know what you're doing. I'll also add that ERA is overrated and APS is a scam but that's beyond the point.

My last point is there has never been a debate between armor and infantry. Armor has always been in support of infantry, even in WW1 with armored cars.

 

[Shovelbird]

The US got pwned in Iraq: it’s now a puppet of Iran.

The US got pwned by the Aghanis and had to leave the country with its tail between its legs after 20’years. Now they’re buddies with China.

If you think world's largest, most well developed chain of corporations running a country failed, you can't be more wrong.

They simple realized Taliban was no longer a threat. It's the equivalent of a bully beating the kid whose friend slung a pebble at him, raping him, locking him in a locker and making him cry uncle and thank you sir then walking away with the spent energy satisfied.

Any Taliban/China mining deal will be daily bombed by ISIS (a.k.a America's bitch) mark my words

 

[Potatoherder]

Palestinians slam Zelensky's speech to the Knesset

https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/palestinians-slam-zelenskys-speech-knesset

Russia needs to send all those captured stingers and javelins to the poor oppressed Palestinian people.

 

[kidatari]

not sure posted
from /pol

 

[Drain Todger]

I broke my neck today trying to do mental gymnastics. The Western press and its doublethink are impossible to understand.

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Behold, the most vile conspiracy theorist in existence, threatening world peace with his harmful blood libel and his antisemitic canards:

Oh, wait a minute. Literally every word he just said was true.

How come these "dictators" always seem to make so much more sense than everyone else?

Meanwhile, our supposed leaders are mumbling bizarre mantras to themselves like they belong in an insane asylum.

Is this the real world, or are we all in hell? What the fuck is all this?

 

[kim foxx]

american politicians are bagholders for the adrenochrome chugging elites, assad and his people face extinction if they ever got knocked off their perch. different game

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Has Ukraine demanded that Assad must go? Because if they did we all know what that means.

 

[Meat Target]

american politicians are bagholders for the adrenochrome chugging elites, assad and his people face extinction if they ever got knocked off their perch. different game

Assad is the DarkSydePhil of global politics, change my mind.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Behold, the most vile conspiracy theorist in existence, threatening world peace with his harmful blood libel and his antisemitic canards:

Oh, wait a minute. Literally every word he just said was true.

How come these "dictators" always seem to make so much more sense than everyone else?

Meanwhile, our supposed leaders are mumbling bizarre mantras to themselves like they belong in an insane asylum.

Is this the real world, or are we all in hell? What the fuck is all this?

It's almost like our government are in a cult.