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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Turkey has always been almost Chinese in their dealings with Russia, today they stick a knife in their back, tomorrow they are selling their tomatoes to Russia. Turks have great resorts and have adopted to influx of Russian clientele who prefer to go Turkey and Egypt instead of Crimea.

Turks do not disclose amount of aid they are providing, but judging how Bayraktar clones are used even on Russian infantry, it seems like there is no shortage of missiles:

Be Russian spetz, mold your body into a perfect weapon over years of hard training, ... get all your squad fucked by some salo eating hohol scratching balls and pretending it's vidya game:

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Fuck me what a horrific video. Makes you wonder though, this is clearly not an OTH footage wouldn't you... ya know, spread out a lot more if you know there's a drone doing its thing above you?
 
Fuck me what a horrific video. Makes you wonder though, this is clearly not an OTH footage wouldn't you... ya know, spread out a lot more if you know there's a drone doing its thing above you?
Drones would be kinda pointless if you could easily see/hear them overhead.

That being said, modern warfare is legit terrifying if you're a grunt, there's a good chance you'll never get to use your gun before you're torn apart by something you never saw coming.

If all of those dudes being blown to bits really are Russkies then I'm even more convinced the Russian casualty reports posted by Ukrainians.
 
Drones would be kinda pointless if you could easily see/hear them overhead.

That being said, modern warfare is legit terrifying if you're a grunt, there's a good chance you'll never get to use your gun before you're torn apart by something you never saw coming.

If all of those dudes being blown to bits really are Russkies then I'm even more convinced the Russian casualty reports posted by Ukrainians.

My former BA friend again:

"Why the hell are they all stood clustered together? Everyone should be spread out in sections, even briefings wouldn't need that many stood about."

So max of 5/6 man groups spread out over a much larger area.
 
Drones would be kinda pointless if you could easily see/hear them overhead.

That being said, modern warfare is legit terrifying if you're a grunt, there's a good chance you'll never get to use your gun before you're torn apart by something you never saw coming.

If all of those dudes being blown to bits really are Russkies then I'm even more convinced the Russian casualty reports posted by Ukrainians.

In WWII, at night, in a winter, tankers used to dig a trench under a tank. A fire would keep oil pan warm so tank could be easily started in the morning. Also it would be the best protection during air raid/artillery strike, because bombs were not selective and tank armor would provide best protection against shrapnel.

Today, no way in hell I'd want to be in or anywhere near a tank. It's like manning machine gun nest (shittiest job) because mg nests are first taken out before an advance and a big target on them.

Bayraktar has very good wing span and judging from the picture staying still, it's a pretty good zoom. A drone with that wing span can probably turn off it's motor turning into a sailplane, so you would not hear anything, and in an instant you never will.
 
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Yesterday Poland raised the question of Koninsberg/Kaliningrad and this is something that resonanted enough that Russian sources picked it up
Interesting although I don't see it going anywhere. Russia is fanatical about keeping it's port access (hence nabbing Crimea in the first place). They'll never give it up willingly, and i doubt the Poles will want to actively start shit, even if it does look like they could fuck the Russians on the ground.

Turks do not disclose amount of aid they are providing, but judging how Bayraktar clones are used even on Russian infantry, it seems like there is no shortage of missiles:
I wonder if Bayrak are quietly comping munitions to the Ukrainians. They had a pretty cozy relatinship before the war, hence them having TB-2s, and Bayraks new jet powered drone was even going to use Ukrainian jet engines. Moreover this is an almost unheard of opportunity for a company to
a)Get actual combat data of their shit in operational use agianst it's theoretical intended targets
b)Look really fucking good while doing so.

I wonder if Bayrak would be willing to get the Turkish government to let them try and supply their new bigger, meaner UCAV, the Akinci, to Ukraine. On paper the thing looks like a fucking monster with the capability of taking all sorts of new, bigger munitions including Turkish equivalents of up to 2k lb JDAMs. The only problem is it's a super new system so the few that have been manufactured so far have gone straight into service with Turkey, but again the ability to get that shit combat tested at no real risk to Turkey has to be an appealing proposition.

Who'd have thought that foreign mercenaries can't even defeat the Ukrainian version of /pol/ and their national guard?
Honestly I'm not really. The militias that support Kadyrov aren't really the same dudes who fought the Russians so hard. Moreover they've spent the last several years acting as enforcers and shit for the government, as opposed to fighting anything approaching a peer, and so they've gotten fat and lazy and full of themselves like most similar forces end up doing.
 

WTF did I just watch? Who is this guy?

1. So he starts with US currently "starving" Afganistan ... we are out of that shithole, done. However, whoever is starving there, that's not US land, it's not US occupying responsibility to feed people there.

2. "US is the biggest terrorist in the world" ... so in the same breath he bitches that US doesn't do something in far away shithole, while accusing that US does too much in far away shitholes ... literally.


Mariupol is like less than 10% Ukrainian speakers. Mariupol did not go with Donbass in 2014. Azov is a brigade, and it fights in Kiev and Kharkiv, so the real number of Azov members in Mariupol is probably less than 200 tops. There are Azeris and Jews serving in Azov now. Are they these "nazis", because I can't find any reason why this predom Russian speaking city is getting reduced to rubble.

I am also going to bring in the bank heist analogy. The armed aggressor is at fault no matter what pre-emptive theories you are going to formulate. Dead civilians, destroyed infrastructure is squarely, 100% is on the armed aggressor.

I wonder if Bayrak are quietly comping munitions to the Ukrainians. They had a pretty cozy relatinship before the war, hence them having TB-2s, and Bayraks new jet powered drone was even going to use Ukrainian jet engines. Moreover this is an almost unheard of opportunity for a company to
a)Get actual combat data of their shit in operational use agianst it's theoretical intended targets
b)Look really fucking good while doing so.

I don't think that Turk drones were all that cutting edge, they are good enough and it seems like airdefense has been dismal from Russian side. They obviously learned a whole lot from conflict in Kharabakh, where they totally kicked ass. At this point Bayraktar is synonimous with drones and Poland already put their order in like two weeks ago. The amount of PR and free ads they are getting is insane.
 
WTF did I just watch? Who is this guy?

1. So he starts with US currently "starving" Afganistan ... we are out of that shithole, done. However, whoever is starving there, that's not US land, it's not US occupying responsibility to feed people there.

2. "US is the biggest terrorist in the world" ... so in the same breath he bitches that US doesn't do something in far away shithole, while accusing that US does too much in far away shitholes ... literally.


Mariupol is like less than 10% Ukrainian speakers. Mariupol did not go with Donbass in 2014. Azov is a brigade, and it fights in Kiev and Kharkiv, so the real number of Azov members in Mariupol is probably less than 200 tops. There are Azeris and Jews serving in Azov now. Are they these "nazis", because I can't find any reason why this predom Russian speaking city is getting reduced to rubble.

I am also going to bring in the bank heist analogy. The armed aggressor is at fault no matter what pre-emptive theories you are going to formulate. Dead civilians, destroyed infrastructure is squarely, 100% is on the armed aggressor.



I don't think that Turk drones were all that cutting edge, they are good enough and it seems like airdefense has been dismal from Russian side. They obviously learned a whole lot from conflict in Kharabakh, where they totally kicked ass. At this point Bayraktar is synonimous with drones and Poland already put their order in like two weeks ago. The amount of PR and free ads they are getting is insane.
It’s some of jimmy dore’s takes on what is going on
This is really creepy


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It's okay to disagree with whatever the main narrative is running at the moment and to examine it critically.

It should be laughed at when people, who claim to be counter-culture and "thinking man's" dissidents just gobble Russian/Z-affiliated narratives like it's Vlad's cock, just because the opposing side happens to be allied with troons.
It was honestly his affiliation with Jack Murphy that made him highly suspect to me, his grifting shenanigans before that were already starting to tire me though. I think there was a brief time when Russia had just invaded where he was triangulating what position to take and trying to balance 'Russia bad because I LARP as a trad Polish nationalist' and 'NATO bad because globohomo' but he seems to have settled on the latter.
WTF did I just watch? Who is this guy?

1. So he starts with US currently "starving" Afganistan ... we are out of that shithole, done. However, whoever is starving there, that's not US land, it's not US occupying responsibility to feed people there.

2. "US is the biggest terrorist in the world" ... so in the same breath he bitches that US doesn't do something in far away shithole, while accusing that US does too much in far away shitholes ... literally.


Mariupol is like less than 10% Ukrainian speakers. Mariupol did not go with Donbass in 2014. Azov is a brigade, and it fights in Kiev and Kharkiv, so the real number of Azov members in Mariupol is probably less than 200 tops. There are Azeris and Jews serving in Azov now. Are they these "nazis", because I can't find any reason why this predom Russian speaking city is getting reduced to rubble.

I am also going to bring in the bank heist analogy. The armed aggressor is at fault no matter what pre-emptive theories you are going to formulate. Dead civilians, destroyed infrastructure is squarely, 100% is on the armed aggressor.
Jimmy Dore is a dissident leftoid, so some rightists love him because he rags on shitlibs and normiecons who they both hate anyway but his animating ideology will ultimately be 'America bad'. That's who Russia has managed to bring together in support of them is a coalition of fringe left and right wingers who they've had varying levels of influence on since the Cold War.
 
It's a miracle Mariupol held out as long as it did, considering no-fucks-given attitude from Russians who just decided to flatten the whole thing, all the while forces defending the city have no way of resupplying or getting reinforcements.
I would assume part of the Russian plan here is to at least cut Ukraine from Black Sea access, but for that they would also have to take Odessa.
I'm not sure what the plan was but I'm guessing it was:
1. Partition Ukraine with Southern Ukraine going to Donbas and North East to Luhansk
2. Annex Donbas and Luhansk through a "referendum" like they did to Crimea
3. Install a puppet government in what's left of Ukraine
 
That's not surprising at all. That be like my cat jumping on my lap everytime I sit down. It's not a surprise.
Palmer is the cat in that analogy and Biden is the lap. As I said before Biden is a war criminal by his own standards and definitions. Hell at this point it’s a dead horse it wouldn’t surprise me if people like this now would of cheered on the Iraq war back in 03
 
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Lviv mayor reports further strike after rockets hit outskirts of western Ukrainian city

LVIV, Ukraine, March 26 (Reuters) - The mayor of Lviv said another rocket had hit the city in western Ukraine on Saturday, not long after two rockets struck its outskirts in what appeared to be the first attacks within the city's limits since the start of the war with Russia.
Lviv, some 60 kilometres (40 miles) from the Polish border, has so far escaped the bombardment and fighting that has devastated some Ukrainian cities closer to Russia since Moscow launched its invasion on Feb. 24.

But on Saturday Governor Maksym Kozytskyy said two rockets had struck the city's eastern outskirts in the mid-afternoon and ordered residents to take shelter.
Later, Mayor Andriy Sadoviy said there had been another strike. "One more rocket strike on Lviv," he said in an online post.
He did not share details of the location. He said the strike had damaged infrastructure but not residential buildings.

The first strikes set fire to an industrial facility storing fuel, but had not hit residential areas, Sadoviy said earlier.
Governor Kozytskyy said five people had been wounded in that attack, citing preliminary figures.
"Stay in shelters! Do not go out into the streets!," he warned.
Reuters witnesses in central Lviv saw heavy black smoke rising from the northeast side of the city and a strong smell of burning filled the air.
 
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