War Invasion of Ukraine News Megathread - Thread is only for articles and discussion of articles, general discussion thread is still in Happenings.

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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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The mighty Russian army is about to scrape the bottom beneath the barrel
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By the 11th of April Army Commissaries of Bryan, Kursk and Belgorod have to provide a list of new conscripts eligible for planned mobilization for the 2022 fiscal year, ready to be deployed to the area of "The special military operation in Ukraine" :story:
Is that the translation or not?
 
keep in mind that this was vetted by Roskomnadzor of Russia, i.e. was allowed to be published unlike interview with Zelensky

Russian rag "Businessman" (Commerce-man), filed under fight with corruption (also seen this story in other rags published)


Cliffs:
2013-2016, from one billion rubles allocated for modernizing AA defense systems of the Russia North Fleet, 692million were stolen (i.e. 70%) As result, older systems were barely repaired and not upgraded.

Russian companies offered 5% of the contract to the Navy officers in charge of contract distribution

Some repairs on components that were past their service age, were serviced "only on paper"


just for context, "back in the days" ruble used to be 40 rubles to a dollar, still though billion rubles on the scale of maintaining a large Navy is less than a drop in a bucket.
 
Last reply on this just to avoid further shitting up the thread since I know it has its own flow, but no I'm calm. There are just a few people who keep posting about these imaginary Russian shills and anytime you ask who they're talking about they never produce anything and then resume mentioning these imaginary people. It's weird.

I present to you: Donbas
A Wikipedia article is not a strong source. Some articles are tolerable, but too many are the work of some tranny cliques tugging each others' little boy manhoods. I'd heed the some UN report referenced there if their blue helmets would stop molesting children (which do not support any propagandistic genocide claims by Russia). It's make work for upper class third world dunces.

Speaking directly to the issue; that civvies were killed by the Ukie or Donbass militiamen is no evidence of genocide by either, usually just careless fighters not caring which way a shell went. More pertinently Russia expelled or prevented from returning most Crimean Tatars, over 100k of them, and similarly forced out, or blocked return of, via their proxies those unwilling to accept the Donbass becoming part of the Novorossiya meme republics. These 'humanitarian corridors' that send Ukrainian speakers in areas beset by the invader to deepest Siberia is a continuation of that.

Shills are surely these nearly new accounts who cannot stop e fellating Tsar monkey. I don't want to unfair to you, but that's the case with so many accounts in the happenings thread.
 
The thing with the airbase or whatever has been mentioned before in this thread, but that's still so insane that those Russians just mindlessly repeat these actions without just killing off their commanders sending them out on these death sentences. It's like the higher ups are just throwing their hands up in the air in frustration and saying "well try it again!" every time they fuck up because they can't figure out how to unfuck things for themselves.

Must make Putin feel like an absolute genius being surrounded by such idiots.
One of the things that has been speculated about Russia forces for a long time is a general lack of mission command, especially at the lower ranks. Although, based on the wildly over optimistic nature of this invasion it likely exists all the way at the top to some degree too. It was known not to exist within the Red Army, but obviously whether or not that has changed is a big question mark.

Mission command is empowering personnel to make decisions at their level, in order to achieve the overall objective. It requires soldiers to be situationally aware, and to be able to take on the responsibilities of their higher ups when the situation calls for it. This allows them to make informed decisions on the ground. It is important because plans never survive contact with the enemy, and therefore being able to adjust as things progress from the lowest level is highly beneficial.

To draw a distinction, with good mission command you might be told to get to an airport, but without which route and by what mode of transportation. Without it, you will be told the timings, the route, the mode of transportation etc.

This can go further up the chain though, if politicians are planning for a war what they should do is set out their political objectives, these are then taken by military planners who seek to look at what military effects can be put in place to achieve these goals. I think Putin has instead told military planners they are to take a bunch of Ukrainian cities, and therefore they planned this omnishambles of an operation.
 
One of the things that has been speculated about Russia forces for a long time is a general lack of mission command, especially at the lower ranks. Although, based on the wildly over optimistic nature of this invasion it likely exists all the way at the top to some degree too. It was known not to exist within the Red Army, but obviously whether or not that has changed is a big question mark.

Mission command is empowering personnel to make decisions at their level, in order to achieve the overall objective. It requires soldiers to be situationally aware, and to be able to take on the responsibilities of their higher ups when the situation calls for it. This allows them to make informed decisions on the ground. It is important because plans never survive contact with the enemy, and therefore being able to adjust as things progress from the lowest level is highly beneficial.

To draw a distinction, with good mission command you might be told to get to an airport, but without which route and by what mode of transportation. Without it, you will be told the timings, the route, the mode of transportation etc.

This can go further up the chain though, if politicians are planning for a war what they should do is set out their political objectives, these are then taken by military planners who seek to look at what military effects can be put in place to achieve these goals. I think Putin has instead told military planners they are to take a bunch of Ukrainian cities, and therefore they planned this omnishambles of an operation.
The Russians never trusted the rank and file to do anything so they had officers do everything that an enlisted man in the west do.
 
One of the things that has been speculated about Russia forces for a long time is a general lack of mission command, especially at the lower ranks. Although, based on the wildly over optimistic nature of this invasion it likely exists all the way at the top to some degree too. It was known not to exist within the Red Army, but obviously whether or not that has changed is a big question mark.

Mission command is empowering personnel to make decisions at their level, in order to achieve the overall objective. It requires soldiers to be situationally aware, and to be able to take on the responsibilities of their higher ups when the situation calls for it. This allows them to make informed decisions on the ground. It is important because plans never survive contact with the enemy, and therefore being able to adjust as things progress from the lowest level is highly beneficial.

To draw a distinction, with good mission command you might be told to get to an airport, but without which route and by what mode of transportation. Without it, you will be told the timings, the route, the mode of transportation etc.

This can go further up the chain though, if politicians are planning for a war what they should do is set out their political objectives, these are then taken by military planners who seek to look at what military effects can be put in place to achieve these goals. I think Putin has instead told military planners they are to take a bunch of Ukrainian cities, and therefore they planned this omnishambles of an operation.
Detailed Russian War Plans:
Plan A: Conquer Ukraine
Plan B: TBD
 
Mission command is empowering personnel to make decisions at their level, in order to achieve the overall objective.

I already revealed some power level to Russian Navy command, so I am going to just leave you with one quote: "personal initiative is punishable by court marshal"


So some time back Azeri channel in Turkey has published news (which you can still google) that Armenia gave to Russia 4 SU-30 planes with pilots and support crew, to be used in Ukraine.

Azeris accuse Armenia to be a destabilizing force to the peace in the region.

Азербайджанский телеканал Haber Global, вещающий в Турции, со ссылкой на неизвестные источники турецкой разведки опубликовал статью, в которой утверждается, что Армения передала России четыре самолета Су-30 для использования в боевых действиях против Украины.

Today Armenian embassy in Ukraine has issued a statement denying this
 

Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian Peace Negotiators Suffer Symptoms of Suspected Poisoning​

The Russian oligarch and others developed symptoms they blamed on hard-liners in Moscow who they say want to sabotage talks to end the war​


Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning after a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month, people familiar with the matter said.

Following the meeting in the Ukrainian capital, Mr. Abramovich, who has shuttled among Moscow, Lviv and other negotiating venues, as well as at least two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that included red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their faces and hands, the people said.

They blamed the suspected attack on hard-liners in Moscow who they said wanted to sabotage talks to end the war. A person close to Mr. Abramovich said it wasn’t clear who had targeted the group.

Mr. Abramovich and the Ukrainian negotiators, who include Crimean Tatar lawmaker Rustem Umerov, have since improved and their lives aren’t in danger, the people said. Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, who has met with Mr. Abramovich, wasn’t affected, they said. Mr. Zelensky’s spokesman said he had no information about any suspected poisoning.

Western experts who looked into the incident said it was hard to determine whether the symptoms were caused by a chemical or biological agent or by some sort of electromagnetic-radiation attack, according to the people familiar.

 

Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian Peace Negotiators Suffer Symptoms of Suspected Poisoning​

The Russian oligarch and others developed symptoms they blamed on hard-liners in Moscow who they say want to sabotage talks to end the war​


Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning after a meeting in Kyiv earlier this month, people familiar with the matter said.

Following the meeting in the Ukrainian capital, Mr. Abramovich, who has shuttled among Moscow, Lviv and other negotiating venues, as well as at least two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that included red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their faces and hands, the people said.

They blamed the suspected attack on hard-liners in Moscow who they said wanted to sabotage talks to end the war. A person close to Mr. Abramovich said it wasn’t clear who had targeted the group.

Mr. Abramovich and the Ukrainian negotiators, who include Crimean Tatar lawmaker Rustem Umerov, have since improved and their lives aren’t in danger, the people said. Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, who has met with Mr. Abramovich, wasn’t affected, they said. Mr. Zelensky’s spokesman said he had no information about any suspected poisoning.

Western experts who looked into the incident said it was hard to determine whether the symptoms were caused by a chemical or biological agent or by some sort of electromagnetic-radiation attack, according to the people familiar.

I was just about to post this. Yeah, considering Kremlin's love for poisoning their enemies, I don't think this is just a tinfoil hat thing
 
A Wikipedia article is not a strong source. Some articles are tolerable, but too many are the work of some tranny cliques tugging each others' little boy manhoods. I'd heed the some UN report referenced there if their blue helmets would stop molesting children (which do not support any propagandistic genocide claims by Russia). It's make work for upper class third world dunces.

Speaking directly to the issue; that civvies were killed by the Ukie or Donbass militiamen is no evidence of genocide by either, usually just careless fighters not caring which way a shell went. More pertinently Russia expelled or prevented from returning most Crimean Tatars, over 100k of them, and similarly forced out, or blocked return of, via their proxies those unwilling to accept the Donbass becoming part of the Novorossiya meme republics. These 'humanitarian corridors' that send Ukrainian speakers in areas beset by the invader to deepest Siberia is a continuation of that.

Shills are surely these nearly new accounts who cannot stop e fellating Tsar monkey. I don't want to unfair to you, but that's the case with so many accounts in the happenings thread.
Calm down I was just introducing it, the 10k killed figure isn't even contentious as far as I know. I didn't make any claims of genocide or anything or who killed how many.
 
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This is big, honestly. Abramovich is rich and powerful, and close to Putin. If Kremlin wanted him out, that's going to send a messages to every Russian elites they could be next. Very spicy indeed

Abramovich is sanctioned up his ass. If Abramovich belongs to anyone it's West, not Putin. At this point who is keeping their wealth, most of it is not in Russia. The oligarchs may seem rich but most of their wealth is locked and the rest is hunted down. I don't know if they can be considered oligharchs anymore.

I posted earlier that Zelensky personally asked West not to sanction Abramovich further.

Also reportedly Abramovich is going to pass a written note to Putin from Zelensky.

Next round of talks will take place in Turkey, unlike Belarus before, which technically was NOT a neutral ground.
 
Detailed Russian War Plans:
Plan A: Conquer Ukraine
You know, this wouldn't necessarily be a huge issue if this was what Putin had asked for. It sets the parameters for his military to plan, but I would bet money that he then told them how to do it - that being a quick minimalist decapitation attack, shortly thereafter the whole country would welcome then with open arms - this locks them into a straight jacket whereby they just get mauled.
Things are getting very very spicy
That doesn't shock me, what shocks me is that Western leaders are already talking about ending sanctions if Russia withdraws. As if this Rubicon moment which happened literally 2 months ago isn't a sign that maybe, just maybe, the sort of co-existence with Russia that the West was seeking is never going to happen unless Russian leadership has a changeover.

If there was ever a sign that the West needs to end any and all strategic economic dependence on autocratic regimes then this was it, and because of the relatively mild economic pain it is causing they are already seeking a way to close this out and get back to business as usual. There should be no business as usual for Russia, if they are not going to abide by internal norms then they don't get to benefit from the system they are trying to challenge. Simpo as.
 
The mighty Russian army is about to scrape the bottom beneath the barrel
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By the 11th of April Army Commissaries of Bryan, Kursk and Belgorod have to provide a list of new conscripts eligible for planned mobilization for the 2022 fiscal year, ready to be deployed to the area of "The special military operation in Ukraine" :story:
Need a source tho. I already saw a fake document posted in chans by ukrainebros talking about vatnigger shills.
 
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