Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Mary Jane]

People who tend to have manic episodes dislike taking mood stabilizers because it reduces their happiness. They have to understand that their manic episodes damage their life and cause bad things to happen, and resist the natural desire to feel manic.

I had undiagnosed hypomanic episodes when I started SSRIs, which are known to exasperate manic/hypomanic tendencies, and my psych had to quickly get me on mood stabilizers before I online shopped myself into a hole in the ground. Logically I know I need to take both the SSRIs and mood stabilizers to be fully functional, but the urge to dump one or the other is always there. I ended up getting a pill box so it's easy to take them all in one go.

Someone like Chris would never be able to fight that urge or find a way around it, IMO.

 

[AnOminous]

Not anymore, though he can petition to have it reversed.

Title 18.2. Crimes and Offenses Generally

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Title 18.2. Crimes and Offenses Generally

law.lis.virginia.gov

Is there a way to tell whether he's in the database of people ineligible to purchase, whether NICS and/or some state analogue? It's possible it might give a bit of data as to what is going on. I think anyone with an FFL could do it but do not do it if it is not legal.

I suppose in that case you could hire a PI and not be terribly interested in how they do it.

 

[joshharlow12]

I dunno, trooning out today is very similar to being autistic back in the day, the average person, particularly on normie social media will handle Chris with kid gloves but if he tells them he's got schizophrenia people will just be like 'lol that explains why you've got those crazy voices in your head' instead of giving him asspats and telling him how stunning and brave he is.

One of the worst mistakes you can make is attempting to garner sympathy from the internet. That's why so many transgender public figures end up as lolcows, they get nothing but love from their echo chamber support groups (Even if they're a sex offender). But then they expect that same level of treatment from the surface web and IRL. I believe safe spaces are actually dangerous and perpetuate mental illness.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

If Bob was alive to see "Dick Licker, that is I" I wonder what the reaction would be.

 

[Strange Wilderness]

People used to muse that Chris thinks of himself as the main character from a video game and in his jail letters he even came out and said something like he considers himself to be the real player one.

Like instead of treating a woman as a person with emotions of her own he’d think something like ‘I wonder what items I have to buy her to win her affections’ as if he’s living in a dating sim.

Basically Chris lacks Theory of Mind.

It's what he was doing with Megan. Win the PaRappa contest to raise her affection level to the top level and you get to unlock the uncensored sex scene with her.

Has Chris ever been on vacation to another country before? If not I do find it quite odd that Barb and Bob never did something like that; it’s not like they were too poor to do so, they were a lower middle class family and it’s not like it’s super expensive. Some people even on benefits can sometimes go on vacation. Where they just too old and settled in Virginia by Chris’s childhood to ever really go travelling?

They were probably too old or tired to travel and having to deal with another child at their ages drained them so much they didn't have the energy to travel especially with Chris being such a handful to deal with. They also probably didn't have the money to go on vacation because they spent most of Chris's school years owning two different places at once in order to mainstream him and any other spare income went into feeding Chris's toy and video game hoard. Another idea is that they felt that any vacation would be wasted on Chris. If they took him anywhere he would just want to do what he already did at home; play with video games and toys, and watch TV. Even a weekend trip to Washington DC would be pointless because Chris wouldn't appreciate the historical monuments because he would be too busy complaining how he wanted to go back to the room to watch Sonic.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Is there a way to tell whether he's in the database of people ineligible to purchase, whether NICS and/or some state analogue? It's possible it might give a bit of data as to what is going on. I think anyone with an FFL could do it but do not do it if it is not legal.

I suppose in that case you could hire a PI and not be terribly interested in how they do it.

Yes, it goes into NICS. Virginia got serious about reporting after the VATech massacre.

Mental Health Reporting in Virginia | Giffords

Pursuant to a 2008 Virginia law, clerks of court must certify and forward “forthwith” to the Central Criminal Records Exchange (“Exchange”) a copy of any order for treatment issued upon a finding that a defendant, including a juvenile, is incompetent.

giffords.org

In addition it goes into the state system, called CCRE.

https://vsp.virginia.gov/services/firearms/virginia-firearms-transaction-program/#VCheck

EDIT: Sorry I misread your question because I'm retarded. Anyone with a FFL can do a NICS search but it might flag it as Chris trying to buy a gun, which could get unwanted attention to the FFL holder that did the search.

A CCRE search in Virginia can be done by a number of entities, but I don't know what the consequences would be. General citizens can also do a CARE search but I don't know if any sort of eligibility would be in that search as it's health-care related. It requires a signed, notarized form.

https://vsp.virginia.gov/services/criminal-background/

 

[JanuaryViolet]

he doesn't know it's wrong because it's incest and WHY incest is wrong, he just believes it's wrong because, to him, "Someone said it was wrong".

Exactly this. Which is why he doesn't really understand why he is in custody, just that he is. He can 'learn' enough to perform competency to aid and assist, but I honestly think he doesn't understand why he is in trouble, none of the actual reasons make sense to him. He can learn the answers to the competency questions and maybe get an idea of the concepts behind them but not as they apply to him.

Keep in mind, tards don't get better as they get older. Their cognitive decline is much earlier and steeper than anyone that, say, hasn't had some kind of brain injury. He is mentally subnormal, all the psych drugs in the world aren't going to help that. Psych drugs may help certain things that are going on with him, but he needs a handler. He has always needed a handler.

 

[Cockadoodle85]

If Bob was alive to see "Dick Licker, that is I" I wonder what the reaction would be.

I think he would ignore it or blame it on the trolls/megan like he did with 99% of the shit chris did.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Another idea is that they felt that any vacation would be wasted on Chris. If they took him anywhere he would just want to do what he already did at home; play with video games and toys, and watch TV. Even a weekend trip to Washington DC would be pointless because Chris wouldn't appreciate the historical monuments because he would be too busy complaining how he wanted to go back to the room to watch Sonic.

I agree with any trips to historical locations but I bet he would have loved a trip to theme parks like Disneyland or Universal Studios back in the 90s.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I think he would ignore it or blame it on the trolls/megan like he did with 99% of the shit chris did.

Can't trust those German girls.

 

[Professor Iris]

While it may be legal for Chris to own a firearm, I think it goes without saying that it would be VERY ill-advised. Chris couldn't even control himself with a vial of pepper spray - had that been a gun, Chris would have discharged it at a troll's face or even his own foot a long time ago. I mean, his desire to shoot somebody HAS been acted out and drawn by him before.

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

While it may be legal for Chris to own a firearm, I think it goes without saying that it would be VERY ill-advised. Chris couldn't even control himself with a vial of pepper spray - had that been a gun, Chris would have discharged it at a troll's face or even his own foot a long time ago. I mean, his desire to shoot somebody HAS been acted out and drawn by him before.

I’m honestly surprised no troll ever tried to get Chris to acquire a gun, or maybe more accurately that no troll that caught his attention tried. For a very gullible blue-ribbon lolcow, relatively few trolls seem to have been that sadistic. The peak, apart from Bella’s supposed endgame, was BlueSpike who was relatively tame for the worst one.

 

[Merried Seinor Coomer]

If Bob was alive to see "Dick Licker, that is I" I wonder what the reaction would be.

Bob would have been completely broken by the tomgirl saga and he'd sit there muttering under his breath as his autistic manchild - the punishment for his sins - sucked cartoon ducks and plowed his wife.

"Soul Bonding? Phooey!"

 

[Cybertonia]

I’m honestly surprised no troll ever tried to get Chris to acquire a gun, or maybe more accurately that no troll that caught his attention tried. For a very gullible blue-ribbon lolcow, relatively few trolls seem to have been that sadistic. The peak, apart from Bella’s supposed endgame, was BlueSpike who was relatively tame for the worst one.

He probably wouldn't be able to find a shop to sell him one anyway, legally permitted or not. Gun shop owners are (rightfully) pretty paranoid now, and will tell you "fuck off you can't buy one" if they get even the slightest whiff that something's off about you. (Seen this in my local shop when a woman was being sketch with her answers and was showing all the signs of trying to straw buy. Didn't even get a chance to do the background check, was just told to fuck off and leave)

Especially now when there's no inventory to buy. It's a sellers market. If there's even the slightest hint you won't pass NICS or you don't have cash in hand they'll tell you to get the fuck out.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

While it may be legal for Chris to own a firearm, I think it goes without saying that it would be VERY ill-advised. Chris couldn't even control himself with a vial of pepper spray - had that been a gun, Chris would have discharged it at a troll's face or even his own foot a long time ago. I mean, his desire to shoot somebody HAS been acted out and drawn by him before.

True plus he wanted Null in all sincerity to murder someone for him at one point.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Chris being arrested for attempted murder was a future big ’saga’ in Chris’s life once he gets free.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

I think he would ignore it or blame it on the trolls/megan like he did with 99% of the shit chris did.

You could well be right. When you've got to the breakfast table to be greeted by a picture postcard of your obese naked son ploughing a blow-up doll, after two decades of him you probably just shake your head wearily and think, 'well, at least he's not doing anything illegal...'

 

[Mary Jane]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Chris being arrested for attempted murder was a future big ’saga’ in Chris’s life once he gets free.

Genuinely asking, can you be tried for attempted murder if your plan/method is too retarded to realistically work, but you genuinely believed it would work?

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Genuinely asking, can you be tried for attempted murder if your plan/method is too retarded to realistically work, but you genuinely believed it would work?

Yes, as long as it was possible for it to work.

Creating some rube goldberg trap to kill someone despite it having almost no chance of actually functioning would still be attempted murder. Trying to kill someone with a voodoo doll would not be attempted murder.

EDIT: Or something more realistic, let's say you found an airsoft gun but were too stupid to tell an airsoft gun from a real gun, and believed it to be real. Then you shot someone with it trying to kill them. It was still attempted murder even though it would not have killed them, because it was still possible that it could have been a real gun that you found. Your attempt, had you not been stupid, could have succeeded.

On the other hand if you knew it was an airsoft gun and you just believed that airsoft guns could kill people if you infused your spiritual energy into the pellets, it would not be attempted murder, because your belief wasn't just wrong, your belief was physically impossible.

EDIT 2: Which isn't to say that it still can't be prosecuted. This was a really interesting case back in the 80's. The defendants entered a guilty plea though instead of fighting it, even though they could have won if they'd fought it -- if not at the local level, then certainly on appeal.

Brothers Convicted of Plotting to Kill Judge With Voodoo Ritual

TUPELO, Miss. (AP) _ Two brothers accused of plotting to kill a judge by using a bizarre voodoo ritual pleaded guilty Friday to conspiracy to commit murder. LeRoy Ivy, 33, and John Henry Ivy, 26, both of Oxford, pleaded guilty in Lee County Circuit Court with attempting to direct the voodo...

apnews.com

 

[Saint Agustin]

I had a thought today while reading another thread, but what happens if Chris ( God, Jesus and the Bear forbids) offs himself? Would the state of Virginia bury the body or cremate it? And what would happen to 14bcl?

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Yes, as long as it was possible for it to work.

Creating some rube goldberg trap to kill someone despite it having almost no chance of actually functioning would still be attempted murder. Trying to kill someone with a voodoo doll would not be attempted murder.

EDIT: Or something more realistic, let's say you found an airsoft gun but were too stupid to tell an airsoft gun from a real gun, and believed it to be real. Then you shot someone with it trying to kill them. It was still attempted murder even though it would not have killed them, because it was still possible that it could have been a real gun that you found. Your attempt, had you not been stupid, could have succeeded.

On the other hand if you knew it was an airsoft gun and you just believed that airsoft guns could kill people if you infused your spiritual energy into the pellets, it would not be attempted murder, because your belief wasn't just wrong, your belief was physically impossible.

EDIT 2: Which isn't to say that it still can't be prosecuted. This was a really interesting case back in the 80's. The defendants entered a guilty plea though instead of fighting it, even though they could have won if they'd fought it -- if not at the local level, then certainly on appeal.

Brothers Convicted of Plotting to Kill Judge With Voodoo Ritual

TUPELO, Miss. (AP) _ Two brothers accused of plotting to kill a judge by using a bizarre voodoo ritual pleaded guilty Friday to conspiracy to commit murder. LeRoy Ivy, 33, and John Henry Ivy, 26, both of Oxford, pleaded guilty in Lee County Circuit Court with attempting to direct the voodo...

apnews.com

I suppose I should go a bit further and explain the difference.

In both cases, the first offense was an "impossible crime". Impossible crimes are still crimes of intent. For instance if you try to pick a pocket but there's nothing in the pocket. The fact that the pocket was empty made it impossible to steal anything, but it was still entirely possible for the pocket to not be empty, and for you to steal something. Therefore even though the crime in this instance was impossible, you still had the intent to commit a possible crime.

The second offense is an "inherently impossible crime", where even if you execute your attempt with all of your actions playing out exactly as you imagined it, it would still be impossible. For instance, Chris' plan that his dimensional merge will kill billions of people in fire. Chris is not guilty of attempted genocide, because his entire plan is inherently impossible even if he executes it perfectly.