Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[joshharlow12]

Does anybody know where this one Facebook post of Chris's is? It essentially was him posting about a drink he was making and he shared a photo of it alongside a recipe of what was in the drink. The drink was HUGE and it was filled with nothing but sugary substances and I believe caramel was a major ingredient as was a FUCK ton of ice cream. The list of unhealthy ingredients was like a mile long. This was in about 2015, I really need this post for something and I've been looking for it for HOURS. I can't find it out of the 1500+ pages here.

 

[GypsyBard]

Does anybody know where this one Facebook post of Chris's is? It essentially was him posting about a drink he was making and he shared a photo of it alongside a recipe of what was in the drink. The drink was HUGE and it was filled with nothing but sugary substances and I believe caramel was a major ingredient. The list of unhealthy ingredients was like a mile long. This was in about 2015, I really need this post for something and I've been looking for it for HOURS. I can't find it out of the 1500+ pages here.

If memory serves me correctly I remember the internet was obsessed with the drink alien brain hemorage around that time it could be it

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

It is incredibly difficult to get psych patients to continue taking their medication after their hospitalization, and I think Chris and his bias towards mental health facilities makes that even worse. They wouldn’t (usually) prescribe him the same heavy medication he was on while he was in the hospital, they’ll usually lessen his doses - depends on what he’s been diagnosed with I suppose.

Definitely. Also, antipsychotics have some gnarly side effects and a lot of patients stop taking them when the side effects get bad.

I still say Chris knows right from wrong because of one thing He said.

"DON’T CALL ANYBODY. " He knew he crossed the line.

Chris 100% knows right from wrong; whenever he does something out of pocket, he either takes steps to cover it up or tries at length to justify it. Neither would be the case if he thought it was totally OK. He's just so egocentric that he thinks he should be able to do whatever he wants regardless of how others feel about it.

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

A goofy loveable loser descended from an ancient line of mystic warriors unwittingly made mayor of a city then aided by a cast of magic animals and a superheroine who is also his best female friend.

Fighting an evil witch who is highly sexualised as a clear contrast to his pure, almost virginal love interest. The villain has an entire army of soulless corporate rent-a-cops at her disposal, all whilst being secretly controlled by an ancient evil entity trapped within a sceptre.

If you took out the licensed characters and real people. Changed the designs and names to be more lawyer friendly, removed Chris' more extreme batshittery. Does anyone else think you would have a kickass IP that has potential to be legitimately good?

 

[Pickle Inspector]

I have a random thought and question.
I would like to preface this by saying the question I'm going to ask is not really a legal one but rather a ethical one.

So we all know Chris doesn't really understand why certain things are wrong he just knows that they are viewed as wrong.

As an example I will use jaywalking. I understand jaywalking is illegal because it puts myself at risk of being hit by a car. So I understand that it's illegal and the thought process behind why it's illegal.
What if I understood it was illegal but I did not understand why?

Would you truly say I knew the difference between right and wrong in this scenario?

I know legally you would say I'm in the wrong but ethically would you say I fully understood right from wrong in this scenario?

I’d say the only thing that really matters is you understood the law and that you weren‘t supposed to jaywalk.

But something like Jaywalking I could understand getting a warning and a slap on the wrist but certain crimes are too heinous to just be let off with even if you didn‘t understand why they were illegal.

Basically in my opinion the only thing that matters is the end result and whether someone understands why something is illegal or not is irrelevant only that they know something is and how severe a crime it is.

Yeah but Chris seems to enjoy the attention.
-You can't get him to shut up about how he's special because he's autistic.
-You can't get him to shut up about how he's special because he's transgender.
-You can't get him to shut up about how he's special because of his dad's accomplishments

If Chris did get let out you know for a fact you would not be able to get him to shut up about how he's special because of his mental disorder. He would make videos and blog posts about how he's special because he has to be on special medication. He would take it religiously and brag about it to everybody he meets then shortly after brag about how he's autistic and transgender.

Think it depends on condition, Chris will likely try but unless it’s a specific kind of mental disorder he’ll not get sympathy/special treatment so I imagine he’ll stop.

For example he’d likely go on about it if he’s diagnosed with something like PTSD but if it’s a condition with a stigma like Schizophrenia and people instead start acting more wary or even scared of him he’d stop boasting about it.

 

[GypsyBard]

For example he’d likely go on about it if he’s diagnosed with something like PTSD but if it’s a condition with a stigma like Schizophrenia and people instead start acting more wary or even scared of him he’d stop boasting about it.

That's the thing there's support groups for different mental disorders. Think about it like when he triooned out. There's a stigma behind that but since he had an online community that made him feel all warm fuzzy and special he bragged about it to everybody. I can guarantee you if you got something like schizophrenia you would find another support group or something that says it's okay you don't have to be ashamed and then he would start another crusade on the internet talking about how he's special because of his condition

 

[Pickle Inspector]

That's the thing there's support groups for different mental disorders. Think about it like when he triooned out. There's a stigma behind that but since he had an online community that made him feel all warm fuzzy and special he bragged about it to everybody. I can guarantee you if you got something like schizophrenia you would find another support group or something that says it's okay you don't have to be ashamed and then he would start another crusade on the internet talking about how he's special because of his condition

I dunno, trooning out today is very similar to being autistic back in the day, the average person, particularly on normie social media will handle Chris with kid gloves but if he tells them he's got schizophrenia people will just be like 'lol that explains why you've got those crazy voices in your head' instead of giving him asspats and telling him how stunning and brave he is.

 

[Ophelia]

Think about it like when he triooned out. There's a stigma behind that

There is here, but KiwiFarms isn’t the world at large.

I can’t see Chris bragging about being on antipsychotics or having a mental illness. Not unless a nice pretty lady explained it to him in a way he could fool himself into spinning as a positive.

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

A goofy loveable loser descended from an ancient line of mystic warriors unwittingly made mayor of a city then aided by a cast of magic animals and a superheroine who is also his best female friend.

Fighting an evil witch who is highly sexualised as a clear contrast to his pure, almost virginal love interest. The villain has an entire army of soulless corporate rent-a-cops at her disposal, all whilst being secretly controlled by an ancient evil entity trapped within a sceptre.

If you took out the licensed characters and real people. Changed the designs and names to be more lawyer friendly, removed Chris' more extreme batshittery. Does anyone else think you would have a kickass IP that has potential to be legitimately good?

I'm sure there's some anime that follows this kind of story structure.

 

[TheShortWaveCerealKiller]

He (usually) knows legal right from wrong.
But moral right from wrong is whatever he wants it to be and in his mind the rest of us are dumb or mean for not going along with it.

I think him knowing legal right and wrong goes to what GypsyBard said, (and to that point many others have stated as well), He doesnt fully understand legality, he understands if he does certain things wrong he gets his toys taken away, which one could argue IS an understanding of legal right and wrong, I would argue its him seeing the legal system as a fair and just system for all and more an unfair parent spanking their children (which if his depictions of CWCville prisons are to be believed is exactly what he thinks).

I dunno, trooning out today is very similar to being autistic back in the day, the average person, particularly on normie social media will handle Chris with kid gloves but if he tells them he's got schizophrenia people will just be like 'lol that explains why you've got those crazy voices in your head' instead of giving him asspats and telling him how stunning and brave he is.

Its what happens when you make mental disorders profitable

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

I think him knowing legal right and wrong goes to what GypsyBard said, (and to that point many others have stated as well), He doesnt fully understand legality, he understands if he does certain things wrong he gets his toys taken away, which one could argue IS an understanding of legal right and wrong, I would argue its him seeing the legal system as a fair and just system for all and more an unfair parent spanking their children (which if his depictions of CWCville prisons are to be believed is exactly what he thinks).

I wonder if that's from his upbringing, where Bob or Barb would say "Don't that or you won't get XYZ", instead of "Don't do that because it's wrong and here's why"? That might warp Chris into seeing things just as "If I do that, I won't get this", and after years and years of autism and ID affecting him, believing that way with legal issues too. For example, his idea that trolling was illegal somehow, that could have been an excuse his parents used for something minor. Like when Barb got a ticket for swearing in public. His tranny shit is another thing, his parents said that was wrong, but he did it anyway, reinforcing an idea that it wasn't wrong for some valid reason, just wrong because he was told not to do it.

When it comes around to fucking Barb, he doesn't know it's wrong because it's incest and WHY incest is wrong, he just believes it's wrong because, to him, "Someone said it was wrong".

 

[thegooddoctor]

Has Chris ever been on vacation to another country before? If not I do find it quite odd that Barb and Bob never did something like that; it’s not like they were too poor to do so, they were a lower middle class family and it’s not like it’s super expensive. Some people even on benefits can sometimes go on vacation. Where they just too old and settled in Virginia by Chris’s childhood to ever really go travelling?

 

[Ophelia]

Has Chris ever been on vacation to another country before? If not I do find it quite odd that Barb and Bob never did something like that; it’s not like they were too poor to do so, they were a lower middle class family and it’s not like it’s super expensive. Some people even on benefits can sometimes go on vacation. Where they just too old and settled in Virginia by Chris’s childhood to ever really go travelling?

He’s only flown in a plane once or twice. He’s barely left the state.

 

[AmnasLord]

This is a thought the resulted from the new gamerfrommars documentary thread. If say Ken Burns was making a Chris Chan documentary, how willing would all the trolls be on appearing on camera and talking about their actions? Would you help in the hunt for BlueSpike? The Idea Guys?

How willing would you be on talking on camera about your individual role whether as a ween/troll/observer and as a member of Kiwifarms and the Wiki?

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

If memory serves me correctly I remember the internet was obsessed with the drink alien brain hemorage around that time it could be it

@CrackedyRackedy Nah, it was his brief flirtation with Harry Potter.

https://sonichu.com/cwcki/February_2017_Facebook_Posts#Butterbeer

 

[Pointless Sperg]

PL: I have a friend who developed schizophrenia and bipolar after college and he refuses to take any kind of medication he’s been prescribed - he has paranoid delusions about them. There’s now a firm cycle put in place because of this: he’ll be hospitalized for a month or so, “recover” from his manic episode with the help of medication, get out from the hospital and refuse to take his meds, then wind up back in the hospital due to a manic episode.

Mania usually feels good, it's like taking happy drugs except your brain does it for you. People who tend to have manic episodes dislike taking mood stabilizers because it reduces their happiness. They have to understand that their manic episodes damage their life and cause bad things to happen, and resist the natural desire to feel manic.

Has Chris ever been on vacation to another country before? If not I do find it quite odd that Barb and Bob never did something like that; it’s not like they were too poor to do so, they were a lower middle class family and it’s not like it’s super expensive. Some people even on benefits can sometimes go on vacation. Where they just too old and settled in Virginia by Chris’s childhood to ever really go travelling?

Barb hated traveling, apparently. I have no proof of this, but she doesn't seem to have traveled much outside of the central Virginia area. Bob didn't mind it but I think he didn't feel the need to, and didn't want to try to persuade Barb to do it. Chris has only been on a plane once (to San Francisco to visit Cole), when he was a little kid, and he barely even remembers it.

Aside from that trip as a little kid. Chris has never left the eastern half of the United States, and really, aside from the Ohio trip to save Julie, he hasn't traveled more than a couple hundred miles from home. Usually he'd only go as far as Baltimore (about 100 miles), but he's also been to Philly (about 200 miles). He only does this for ponyfag conventions and such.

Everfree was going to be his big trip -- the furthest he'd ever traveled in his entire life.

 

[TheShortWaveCerealKiller]

I wonder if that's from his upbringing, where Bob or Barb would say "Don't that or you won't get XYZ", instead of "Don't do that because it's wrong and here's why"? That might warp Chris into seeing things just as "If I do that, I won't get this", and after years and years of autism and ID affecting him, believing that way with legal issues too. For example, his idea that trolling was illegal somehow, that could have been an excuse his parents used for something minor. Like when Barb got a ticket for swearing in public. His tranny shit is another thing, his parents said that was wrong, but he did it anyway, reinforcing an idea that it wasn't wrong for some valid reason, just wrong because he was told not to do it.

When it comes around to fucking Barb, he doesn't know it's wrong because it's incest and WHY incest is wrong, he just believes it's wrong because, to him, "Someone said it was wrong".

In that case, thats probably why he saw it as ok to threaten violence to people who "wrong him" because he was told as a kid that he has to defend himself but was never told the proper levels of escalation when it comes to retaliating against someone. Which makes me happy someone like Chris could never own a gun because he would be one of those "I dont fight I shoot" tards you see on the highway.

When it comes to the tranny stuff, Im not even sure if he was told that it was inherently bad, just that his parents disapproved of it which is probably why he was so ready and willing to try it when he was told to, he didnt see a "reasonable" downside (aka no time out, toys taken away etc) so he just did it.

Honestly it makes me wonder what else he thinks is "just wrong because someone said so", I doubt it goes that deep into the realms of debauchery and degeneracy (least to the actual illegal level) but one has to wonder.

 

[Ophelia]

Which makes me happy someone like Chris could never own a gun because he would be one of those "I dont fight I shoot" tards you see on the highway.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there have been conversations here in which legal kiwis said people like Chris can own firearms.

When it comes to the tranny stuff, Im not even sure if he was told that it was inherently bad, just that his parents disapproved of it which is probably why he was so ready and willing to try it when he was told to, he didnt see a "reasonable" downside (aka no time out, toys taken away etc) so he just did it.

Wearing skirts and such was a big rebellion for him. He usually did what his parents wanted, but in this he persisted. Barb even cut his hair and (according to Chris) Bob was seriously against it verbally. There were downsides, but the persistence shows how important it is to Chris.

 

[AnOminous]

They have to understand that their manic episodes damage their life and cause bad things to happen, and resist the natural desire to feel manic.

Even if they do, once the euphoria from it kicks in, it overrules the executive function part of the brain that tells you "you know you probably better take those pills." This is especially the case with creative types who experience a burst of creativity at the onset of a manic episode before it crashes completely off the rails.

As for schizophrenic delusions about medications, it doesn't help that when someone is having delusions about a certain medication, it's often one with genuinely unpleasant side effects anyway. So if you think you're being poisoned and then the medication makes you feel like shit, or has even worse effects, it reinforces that.

Someone I knew who had schizophrenia (but most of the time was pretty together) told me just knowing hallucinations and delusions are crazy and not real doesn't make them stop happening, and they're overwhelming enough (at least in a breakdown) you can't just ignore them and have to react to them anyway, or just completely shut down.

Anyway, none of this really describes Chris. There's no pill for being a Walter Mitty style daydreamer with particularly maladaptive daydreams. I wouldn't be surprised if they loaded him up with goof pills anyway but unless he's decompensated massively he is not psychotic.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there have been conversations here in which legal kiwis said people like Chris can own firearms.

Not anymore, though he can petition to have it reversed.

Title 18.2. Crimes and Offenses Generally

law.lis.virginia.gov

Title 18.2. Crimes and Offenses Generally

law.lis.virginia.gov