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Was Chris ever told by a dentist that he’d need braces some day?

Not that he’d even take care of all that, but something I was just wondering
 
How do you feel about the fact that Chris will be remembered for many decades after his death at the very least, and you won't? Think about it, what were your great grandparents names? Great great grandparents? What were they like? What did they do for a living? You can't answer and that's normal. Neither can I. The best chance at a legacy most have, family, is kind of a fake legacy because you'll be forgotten in 1-2 generations anyway. The way I see it, if no one remembers you, in practical terms its like you never existed in the first place. Chris will be remembered, even if only as a profoundly autistic delusional troon.
 
How do you feel about the fact that Chris will be remembered for many decades after his death at the very least, and you won't? Think about it, what were your great grandparents names? Great great grandparents? What were they like? What did they do for a living? You can't answer and that's normal. Neither can I. The best chance at a legacy most have, family, is kind of a fake legacy because you'll be forgotten in 1-2 generations anyway. The way I see it, if no one remembers you, in practical terms its like you never existed in the first place. Chris will be remembered, even if only as a profoundly autistic delusional troon.
I’d rather have my existence erased from all knowledge than have Chris’s notoriety. Better be forgotten than be remembered for anything Chris will be remembered for.
 
The best way I could explain it is that Chris isn't stupid, but he *IS* retarded. How things work in his head take precedence over reality. He has an extremely difficult time figuring out how the real world works. He lacks the ability to learn unless it's interesting in a cartoon or magical way.
That is an interesting way to put it, because it is true, however would it be untrue to say that perhaps he does still have enough "control" over himself to understand when he goes TOO far or would that be giving Chris too much credit? Of course when I say knowing he goes too far meaning more in his mind he took it to an extreme but not necessarily remorseful if that makes any sense.
Or to put it another way, do you think he 100% no doubt believes everything he says or in some way does he know what he does is inherently bullshit and a lie?


People used to muse that Chris thinks of himself as the main character from a video game and in his jail letters he even came out and said something like he considers himself to be the real player one.

Like instead of treating a woman as a person with emotions of her own he’d think something like ‘I wonder what items I have to buy her to win her affections’ as if he’s living in a dating sim.

Basically Chris lacks Theory of Mind.
In that case does he see his parents and any others as "important/story relevant NPCs"? Like he didnt actually see Bob dying as a person dying but an integral part of the story dying?
Or is this limited to people not important / people not family? More over, I wonder when that delusion fully took place, because obviously it got worse with age at least to a point where, even if he didnt believe himself a god, he did believe there would be little to no consequences for his actions.
How do you feel about the fact that Chris will be remembered for many decades after his death at the very least, and you won't? Think about it, what were your great grandparents names? Great great grandparents? What were they like? What did they do for a living? You can't answer and that's normal. Neither can I. The best chance at a legacy most have, family, is kind of a fake legacy because you'll be forgotten in 1-2 generations anyway. The way I see it, if no one remembers you, in practical terms its like you never existed in the first place. Chris will be remembered, even if only as a profoundly autistic delusional troon.
On the topic of Chris being remembered, its kind of a "do you WANT to be remembered that way?" I think I rather never be remembered than to be remembered as the guy who ran over people, pepper sprayed some dude, stabbed his gooch, became trans, raped his mom, shat his pants, etc etc etc tec.
 
I mean, he has issues telling "universes" apart, the dude fantasizes all the time and actually thinks it's real.

Without a doubt he thinks dating is like the SIMS 2 or 3, giving items must increase once friendships because that's what happens to him, when someone gives him something he likes that person more and more.

That is accurate. He did think ladies would just give it up on the third date, presumably whether they to or not.
 
In that case does he see his parents and any others as "important/story relevant NPCs"? Like he didnt actually see Bob dying as a person dying but an integral part of the story dying?
I feel like the existence of Robertchu is enough of an answer to this. Chris has convinced himself that Bob is still alive in Cwcville, as Barbie-chan will be once Barb passes.
 
In the movie of Chris' life, what actor will they get to play Heilberg? The defense attorney assigned to the case.
 
How do you feel about the fact that Chris will be remembered for many decades after his death at the very least, and you won't? Think about it, what were your great grandparents names? Great great grandparents? What were they like? What did they do for a living? You can't answer and that's normal. Neither can I. The best chance at a legacy most have, family, is kind of a fake legacy because you'll be forgotten in 1-2 generations anyway. The way I see it, if no one remembers you, in practical terms its like you never existed in the first place. Chris will be remembered, even if only as a profoundly autistic delusional troon.
I honestly think that Chris in the future will be considered a slightly famous underground artist. I don't think he will get the same thing as many other artists but I feel like he will be remembered.

That is an interesting way to put it, because it is true, however would it be untrue to say that perhaps he does still have enough "control" over himself to understand when he goes TOO far or would that be giving Chris too much credit? Of course when I say knowing he goes too far meaning more in his mind he took it to an extreme but not necessarily remorseful if that makes any sense.
Or to put it another way, do you think he 100% no doubt believes everything he says or in some way does he know what he does is inherently bullshit and a lie?
I said this in a different thread but I think it holds true to a lot of Chris's behavior.
Imagine you have a cat you're trying to keep off the furniture. The cat will jump on the couch and you will hit him with a spray bottle. After he gets sprayed enough times he will no longer jump on the couch so he'll jump on a chair.
You spray him when he gets on the chair so the cat thinks okay how about I step on this table. The cat does not understand why what it is doing is wrong it simply understands that a specific action has a specific consequence and is unable to fully understand that if it jumps on any piece of furniture it will get sprayed. A cat has a literal mode of thinking where it associates certain actions with certain consequences while not understanding why it is wrong to do these actions. Chris is the same way. He doesn't necessarily understand when he goes to far only that if he does this specific action he will get this specific consequence. Take Chris and weapons as an example. Chris used to carry a knife but then he got cut by it so he understood that the consequence of him carrying a knife is he has the potential to cut himself so he stopped carrying it. He then replaced it with pepper spray. He used the pepper spray on a GameStop employee and learn the consequences of using pepper spray is you could get arrested so he stopped carrying pepper spray. So he replaced the pepper spray with a bat. If we were too switch the order of these weapons and have Chris with a baseball bat at GameStop there's no doubt in my mind he would have swung it at the guy and ran. This is because Chris does not understand that using the weapon was wrong he simply understands that using pepper spray is wrong. In this context Chris does not exactly understand when he is going to far he only understands that this specific action will give this specific consequence. The cat analogy can be used for almost everything Chris does. it can be used for how Chris views relationships or how he treats women. It can even be used for the times Chris would get in trouble for his attraction signs. at college he was told to stop putting up an attraction sign and got yelled at for it. So Chris thought okay attraction sign will equal a consequence so what about if I put it in a newsletter. He was unable to think why the attraction sign itself was the problem but only why that specific action was the problem. We all know he does not learn from his mistakes but I theorize he actually does learn from his mistakes but more in a literal sense.
Think about it like this. If a child were to get in trouble for throwing a baseball at somebody they would learn throwing things at people is wrong. If Chris were to get in trouble for throwing a baseball at somebody he would think okay throwing a baseball at somebody is wrong so maybe next time I should use a football.


It is because of this I believe fully that Chris does not fully learn from his mistakes like we do and is continuously a danger to himself and others.
 
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I have a random thought and question.
I would like to preface this by saying the question I'm going to ask is not really a legal one but rather a ethical one.

So we all know Chris doesn't really understand why certain things are wrong he just knows that they are viewed as wrong.

As an example I will use jaywalking. I understand jaywalking is illegal because it puts myself at risk of being hit by a car. So I understand that it's illegal and the thought process behind why it's illegal.
What if I understood it was illegal but I did not understand why?

Would you truly say I knew the difference between right and wrong in this scenario?

I know legally you would say I'm in the wrong but ethically would you say I fully understood right from wrong in this scenario?
 
What if I understood it was illegal but I did not understand why?

Would you truly say I knew the difference between right and wrong in this scenario?
Not a lawyer, but I would say "you know right and wrong" purely from a literal standpoint. If I tell you "don't touch that", you know you shouldn't touch that, so the "why" is irrelevant. Whether or not you think "eh, touching that won't be a big deal" or not is also irrelevant since you know the rule is "don't touch that".
 
I have a random thought and question.
I would like to preface this by saying the question I'm going to ask is not really a legal one but rather a ethical one.

So we all know Chris doesn't really understand why certain things are wrong he just knows that they are viewed as wrong.

As an example I will use jaywalking. I understand jaywalking is illegal because it puts myself at risk of being hit by a car. So I understand that it's illegal and the thought process behind why it's illegal.
What if I understood it was illegal but I did not understand why?

Would you truly say I knew the difference between right and wrong in this scenario?

I know legally you would say I'm in the wrong but ethically would you say I fully understood right from wrong in this scenario?

Jaywalking was invented by automobile companies anyway, so they could kick everyone else off the road.
 
Jaywalking was invented by automobile companies anyway, so they could kick everyone else off the road.
Well yeah I actually know that but I was using that as a easy example because everybody knows the danger of crossing the road while jaywalking. It's universal. Basically I just needed an easy example everyone would understand.
 
He's probably on a very high dose of hardcore antipsychotic medications.

He could be very different if he continues to take his meds, time will tell.
It is incredibly difficult to get psych patients to continue taking their medication after their hospitalization, and I think Chris and his bias towards mental health facilities makes that even worse. They wouldn’t (usually) prescribe him the same heavy medication he was on while he was in the hospital, they’ll usually lessen his doses - depends on what he’s been diagnosed with I suppose.

PL: I have a friend who developed schizophrenia and bipolar after college and he refuses to take any kind of medication he’s been prescribed - he has paranoid delusions about them. There’s now a firm cycle put in place because of this: he’ll be hospitalized for a month or so, “recover” from his manic episode with the help of medication, get out from the hospital and refuse to take his meds, then wind up back in the hospital due to a manic episode.
 
It is incredibly difficult to get psych patients to continue taking their medication after their hospitalization, and I think Chris and his bias towards mental health facilities makes that even worse. They wouldn’t (usually) prescribe him the same heavy medication he was on while he was in the hospital, they’ll usually lessen his doses - depends on what he’s been diagnosed with I suppose.

PL: I have a friend who developed schizophrenia and bipolar after college and he refuses to take any kind of medication he’s been prescribed - he has paranoid delusions about them. There’s now a firm cycle put in place because of this: he’ll be hospitalized for a month or so, “recover” from his manic episode with the help of medication, get out from the hospital and refuse to take his meds, then wind up back in the hospital due to a manic episode.
Yeah but Chris seems to enjoy the attention.
-You can't get him to shut up about how he's special because he's autistic.
-You can't get him to shut up about how he's special because he's transgender.
-You can't get him to shut up about how he's special because of his dad's accomplishments

If Chris did get let out you know for a fact you would not be able to get him to shut up about how he's special because of his mental disorder. He would make videos and blog posts about how he's special because he has to be on special medication. He would take it religiously and brag about it to everybody he meets then shortly after brag about how he's autistic and transgender.
 
I still say Chris knows right from wrong because of one thing He said.

"DON’T CALL ANYBODY. " He knew he crossed the line.
I don't really think he understood fully his action had consequences other than being banned from GameStop until the manager said something about calling security. After the manager said that Chris realized that there's potential consequences other than just being banned from GameStop. In the past when workers called security in the mall Chris was banned from the mall. If he really understood that he was absolutely wrong in the situation he would not have attacked the game stop employee but rather he would have ran or begged him not to call.
 
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