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Can Chris swim?
Can he ride a Bicycle?
Has he ever been on an airplane?
Can he ride a Bicycle?
Has he ever been on an airplane?
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- Thread starter champthom
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True but I think it was Marvin who said before the merge nonsense Chris was actually really good at keeping up with debt repayments even though he’d just pay the minimum so that shows Chris is capable of budgeting, on that thought when he gets out is there anything stopping him from just defaulting on his current debts leaving him with more income? Aside from his own laziness that is.
But I agree in general, if he gets a place of his own I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a lot of ebegging when rent is due.
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He took a flight to California to see Cole when he was a little kid. Everfree was supposed to be his second flight ever.
I'm not sure about the other two. I don't think I've seen him do either in a video, but that doesn't mean much.
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He’s only ever been on a plane once in 2011, maybe there are other times but it’s not been documented anywhere, he probably can do the latter two, just not very well and would probably have to use stabilisers to ride and armbands in water. Remember Chris is actually very diverse in many fields, he’s just ‘inept in almost every one of them. Chris can do most things a normal person can, Just his competency in said things is almost always well below the average.
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If he's sent for 6 months, that means the evaluation was already made. 6 months is the period to try to restore to competence, the evaluation itself is relatively short. The evaluation is also generally not made in a hospital, but by interviews with specialists at the jail.
Um, the San Francisco trip was *way* earlier than 2011.
Cockadoodle85
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What if chris wont give up his cwcville in those 6 months? Will they keep him in as long as he wont say "im not jesus" and push the hearing date back? Do they even care about his delusions of worlds merging or they just want him to be well enough to understand what the judge asks him?
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The second one is more likely. Why would they try to make him deny those things? It could make him even less competent if he lost his cope.
Dr. Silvestrechu
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It's in the FAQ. If he's in for IST, which seems likely, the court will hear the opinion of the doctors at the next hearing. If he's still incompetent, they'll put him in for another 6 months and have another court date to try again, unless the doctors think he's unrestorable, in which case he will be hospitalized indefinitely until the doctors come back and say "yeah he's ready", or if he's hospitalized for a total of 5 years, at which point he will no longer be in custody and they have to decide what to do with him as a regular civilian.
Their options then are to declare him incapacitated (insane), certifiable (and send him to the one remaining training center), or let him go. If he's let go he is a free man, still ruled incompetent, but not ruled insane. unless a doctor determines that he is competent, in which case the charges can be brought again. Oddly, they're not allowed to bring the charges unless he's declared competent, so if he gets released while still being IST but not declared insane, he's basically finally free of the charges unless some later doctor he goes to decides to tell the court he's competent for some reason (even though they don't have to).
If he does get charged again after being declared competent, he can get declared incompetent again and spend another 5 years in hospital, at which point if he's released they can't go after him again as he'll have served the maximum possible felony sentence.
In IST situation, they only care about him being able to understand what is happening in court. He has to understand the charges, understand the consequences, and understand what he has to do in court, etc. Many of his delusions are irrelevant, but some of them are (e.g. Magi-chan will help convince everyone that I'm innocent), or if he thinks his Harvey Birdman training will help him in court.
Tons of retards who don't know how the courts work go into the system, but the normal procedure is for their attorney to explain everything in detail so that they understand, not to the level of being an attorney, but at least enough understanding insofar as how their *own* case will work. In Chris' case, he is for some reason unable to understand. That is what they will address in the hospital.
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I don't think he really is. I think it's an abundance of caution thing. The question is how long he can fake it.
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I wouldn't be so certain. Despite having been to court many times, Chris still never understood how the courts work on even the most fundamental level. He had no reason to fake this lack of knowledge in the past.
Chris has real trouble understanding how any bureaucratic system works. He doesn't understand government. he doesn't understand courts. He doesn't understand employment. He doesn't understand the media or advertising. He doesn't even really understand the cartoon depictions of them.
He didn't even know how to turn off the stupid Playroom logo on his Playstation camera videos for the longest time.
The best way I could explain it is that Chris isn't stupid, but he *IS* retarded. How things work in his head take precedence over reality. He has an extremely difficult time figuring out how the real world works. He lacks the ability to learn unless it's interesting in a cartoon or magical way.
I'm fairly certain it's not a conscious decision on his part, he just has no executive control over how he interfaces with the world or learns new information. It's the same way normal people can make bad decisions when given overwhelming stimulation, for instance cheating on your wife if some hot girl comes and starts trying to give you head. Eventually the stimulus overrides rational thought.
Chris is the same way except ANY interesting stimulus overrides any boring or unpleasant stimulus. 24/7/365+1 . I don't think he has much choice in the matter. That's why he needs to never be a free person and is better off if he always has a tard wrangler to punish him back into reality.
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Understanding schizophrenics, severe autistics and Chris are genuinely hard challenges, It´s almost fascinating if it weren´t so weird and disturbing....
I should have studied psychology
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It’s not too late to start, it’s not like you’re currently in a nuthouse after raping your mom.
GypsyBard
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I know I will muddle this up because I'm not a psychologist but I had an interesting thought I would like to share with you guys about Chris.
I don't know what it is called but I feel like Chris almost has reverse empathy.
Let me try and explain what I mean
If I were to look at it random person on the street and think should I punch them in the face my empathy would say no because they would not like being punched in the face.
Chris on the other hand would think I would not like to be punched in the face.
This sounds good and all after all in this scenario it comes to the same conclusion but then things get kind of muddled when you talk about other subjects.
Like with rape
Instead of thinking that person would not like to have sexual contact with me Chris thinks I would like to have sexual contact with that person. It's basically like instead of having empathy for the other person within a scenario Chris only has empathy for himself.
You can see this throughout all of his history we have documented. He simply thinks how he would feel if that situation was happening to him rather than how the other person feels. Like with Megan. He did not think about her not enjoying contact with him instead his reverse empathy basically told him he would enjoy contact like that so he did not really make the correct assumption.
Again I'm not a psychologist and I might be talking out of my ass but what do you guys think?
I don't know what it is called but I feel like Chris almost has reverse empathy.
Let me try and explain what I mean
If I were to look at it random person on the street and think should I punch them in the face my empathy would say no because they would not like being punched in the face.
Chris on the other hand would think I would not like to be punched in the face.
This sounds good and all after all in this scenario it comes to the same conclusion but then things get kind of muddled when you talk about other subjects.
Like with rape
Instead of thinking that person would not like to have sexual contact with me Chris thinks I would like to have sexual contact with that person. It's basically like instead of having empathy for the other person within a scenario Chris only has empathy for himself.
You can see this throughout all of his history we have documented. He simply thinks how he would feel if that situation was happening to him rather than how the other person feels. Like with Megan. He did not think about her not enjoying contact with him instead his reverse empathy basically told him he would enjoy contact like that so he did not really make the correct assumption.
Again I'm not a psychologist and I might be talking out of my ass but what do you guys think?
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Cockadoodle85
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Narcissism
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He most likely learnt/inherited it from Barb.
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People used to muse that Chris thinks of himself as the main character from a video game and in his jail letters he even came out and said something like he considers himself to be the real player one.
Like instead of treating a woman as a person with emotions of her own he’d think something like ‘I wonder what items I have to buy her to win her affections’ as if he’s living in a dating sim.
Basically Chris lacks Theory of Mind.
NortonAntiVirus
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I mean, he has issues telling "universes" apart, the dude fantasizes all the time and actually thinks it's real.
Without a doubt he thinks dating is like the SIMS 2 or 3, giving items must increase once friendships because that's what happens to him, when someone gives him something he likes that person more and more.
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This is a perfect way to describe how Chris thinks the world works. I think everything in his life loops around to him being the most important person on the planet.
Not only that, for the last few years Barb has been acting like a scrapped NPC with an unfinished AI. The default test dialogue over and over again. That definitely didn't help.
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Remember, we're dealing with the sensitive and towering intellect that reckoned stealing pick-up lines from Sprung was a sure-fire route to sweet, juicy China.