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Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread
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The correct exchange rate in Melitopol
Potatoes, -25 hryvnia, 1 dollar, 50 rubles.
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JFC that video is so sad...
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Almighty Bukhanka
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Interesting thread:
1/ Big Arrow War—a primer. For all those scratching their heads in confusion, or dusting off their dress uniforms for the Ukrainian victory parade in Kiev, over the news about Russia’s “strategic shift”, you might want to re-familiarize yourself with basic military concepts.
2/ Maneuver warfare is a good place to start. Understand Russia started its “special military operation” with a severe manpower deficit—200,000 attackers to some 600,000 defenders (or more). Classic attritional conflict was never an option. Russian victory required maneuver.
3/ Maneuver war is more psychological than physical and focuses more on the operational than on the tactical level. Maneuver is relational movement—how you deploy and move your forces in relation to your opponent. Russian maneuver in the first phase of its operation support this.
4/ The Russians needed to shape the battlefield to their advantage. In order to do this, they needed to control how Ukraine employed it’s numerically superior forces, while distributing their own smaller combat power to best accomplish this objective.
5/ Strategically, to facilitate the ability to maneuver between the southern, central, and northern fronts, Russia needed to secure a land bridge between Crimea and Russia. The seizure of the coastal city of Mariupol was critical to this effort. Russia has accomplished this task.
6/ While this complex operation unfolded, Russia needed to keep Ukraine from maneuvering its numerically superior forces in a manner that disrupted the Mariupol operation. This entailed the use of several strategic supporting operations—feints, fixing operations, and deep attack.
7/ The concept of a feint is simple—a military force either is seen as preparing to attack a given location, or actually conducts an attack, for the purpose of deceiving an opponent into committing resources in response to the perceived or actual actions.
8/ The use of the feint played a major role in Desert Storm, where Marine Amphibious forces threatened the Kuwaiti coast, forcing Iraq to defend against an attack that never came, and where the 1st Cavalry Division actually attacked Wadi Al Batin to pin down the Republican Guard.
9/ The Russians made extensive use of the feint in Ukraine, with Amphibious forces off Odessa freezing Ukrainian forces there, and a major feint attack toward Kiev compelling Ukraine to reinforce their forces there. Ukraine was never able to reinforce their forces in the east.
10/ Fixing operations were also critical. Ukraine had assembled some 60,000-100,000 troops in the east, opposite Donbas. Russia carried out a broad fixing attack designed to keep these forces fully engaged and unable to maneuver in respect to other Russian operations.
11/ During Desert Storm, two Marine Divisions were ordered to carry out similar fixing attacks against Iraqi forces deployed along the Kuwaiti-Saudi border, tying down significant numbers of men and material that could not be used to counter the main US attack out west.
12/ The Russian fixing attack pinned the main Ukrainian concentration of forces in the east, and drove them away from Mariupol, which was invested and reduced. Supporting operations out of Crimea against Kherson expanded the Russian land bridge. This phase is now complete.
13/ Russia also engaged in a campaign of strategic deep attack designed to disrupt and destroy Ukrainian logistics, command & control, and air power and long-range fire support. Ukraine is running out of fuel and ammo, cannot coordinate maneuver, and has no meaningful Air Force.
14/ Russia is redeploying some of its premier units from where they had been engaged in feint operations in northern Kiev to where they can support the next phase of the operation, namely the liberation of the Donbas and the destruction of the main Ukrainian force in the east.
15/ This is classic maneuver warfare. Russia will now hold Ukraine in the north and south while its main forces, reinforced by the northern units, Marines, and forces freed up by the capture of Mariupol, seek to envelope and destroy 60,000 Ukrainian forces in the east.
16/ This is Big Arrow War at its finest, something Americans used to know but forgot in the deserts and mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq. It also explains how 200,000 Russians have been able to defeat 600,000 Ukrainians. Thus ends the primer on maneuver warfare, Russian style.
1/ Big Arrow War—a primer. For all those scratching their heads in confusion, or dusting off their dress uniforms for the Ukrainian victory parade in Kiev, over the news about Russia’s “strategic shift”, you might want to re-familiarize yourself with basic military concepts.
2/ Maneuver warfare is a good place to start. Understand Russia started its “special military operation” with a severe manpower deficit—200,000 attackers to some 600,000 defenders (or more). Classic attritional conflict was never an option. Russian victory required maneuver.
3/ Maneuver war is more psychological than physical and focuses more on the operational than on the tactical level. Maneuver is relational movement—how you deploy and move your forces in relation to your opponent. Russian maneuver in the first phase of its operation support this.
4/ The Russians needed to shape the battlefield to their advantage. In order to do this, they needed to control how Ukraine employed it’s numerically superior forces, while distributing their own smaller combat power to best accomplish this objective.
5/ Strategically, to facilitate the ability to maneuver between the southern, central, and northern fronts, Russia needed to secure a land bridge between Crimea and Russia. The seizure of the coastal city of Mariupol was critical to this effort. Russia has accomplished this task.
6/ While this complex operation unfolded, Russia needed to keep Ukraine from maneuvering its numerically superior forces in a manner that disrupted the Mariupol operation. This entailed the use of several strategic supporting operations—feints, fixing operations, and deep attack.
7/ The concept of a feint is simple—a military force either is seen as preparing to attack a given location, or actually conducts an attack, for the purpose of deceiving an opponent into committing resources in response to the perceived or actual actions.
8/ The use of the feint played a major role in Desert Storm, where Marine Amphibious forces threatened the Kuwaiti coast, forcing Iraq to defend against an attack that never came, and where the 1st Cavalry Division actually attacked Wadi Al Batin to pin down the Republican Guard.
9/ The Russians made extensive use of the feint in Ukraine, with Amphibious forces off Odessa freezing Ukrainian forces there, and a major feint attack toward Kiev compelling Ukraine to reinforce their forces there. Ukraine was never able to reinforce their forces in the east.
10/ Fixing operations were also critical. Ukraine had assembled some 60,000-100,000 troops in the east, opposite Donbas. Russia carried out a broad fixing attack designed to keep these forces fully engaged and unable to maneuver in respect to other Russian operations.
11/ During Desert Storm, two Marine Divisions were ordered to carry out similar fixing attacks against Iraqi forces deployed along the Kuwaiti-Saudi border, tying down significant numbers of men and material that could not be used to counter the main US attack out west.
12/ The Russian fixing attack pinned the main Ukrainian concentration of forces in the east, and drove them away from Mariupol, which was invested and reduced. Supporting operations out of Crimea against Kherson expanded the Russian land bridge. This phase is now complete.
13/ Russia also engaged in a campaign of strategic deep attack designed to disrupt and destroy Ukrainian logistics, command & control, and air power and long-range fire support. Ukraine is running out of fuel and ammo, cannot coordinate maneuver, and has no meaningful Air Force.
14/ Russia is redeploying some of its premier units from where they had been engaged in feint operations in northern Kiev to where they can support the next phase of the operation, namely the liberation of the Donbas and the destruction of the main Ukrainian force in the east.
15/ This is classic maneuver warfare. Russia will now hold Ukraine in the north and south while its main forces, reinforced by the northern units, Marines, and forces freed up by the capture of Mariupol, seek to envelope and destroy 60,000 Ukrainian forces in the east.
16/ This is Big Arrow War at its finest, something Americans used to know but forgot in the deserts and mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq. It also explains how 200,000 Russians have been able to defeat 600,000 Ukrainians. Thus ends the primer on maneuver warfare, Russian style.
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The problem is the fact both Russia and Ukraine uses the same equipment, with alot of the rotary wing aircraft still wearing soviet standard camouflage so it's hard to IFF especially when honestly up to this point for most of us it was inconceivable that the Ukrainians would be suicidal enough to launch sorties into Russia proper.
Honestly when I first heard of the strike on Belgorod I thought they simply used Tochkas like they hit Rostov with in the opening days of the war
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Most of his cabinet is made up of his former comic buddies and people he knew from his career.
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A Ukrainian ticktocker made a video about the fact that the ruble will soon become the new currency of the country. It ended badly for him
Le funny
Le funny
Richardface
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Well now it's getting weird, Ukraine Ministry Defense disavows that Ukrainian forces were responsible for Belgorod attack:
"The Ukrainian General Staff tells my colleague @fpiatov, it does “not have this information” that Ukrainian forces attacked an oil depot in Belgorod oblast, hinting that the attack could have been a Russian false flag operation to justify further brutal attacks on
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Russia is using the fact of the Belgorod attack to withdraw from negotiations from Ukraine:
Why the fuck do the Russians need any excuse to withdraw from negotiations when they're already sanctioned to hell and noone is pressuring them to have negotiations? Why does an attack on Belgorod invalidate negotiating when they're dropping cruise missiles on Kiev?
Something strange is afoot
My operating theory is that the ghost of kiev's son, seeking revenge for his dad, hijacked a ukrainian attack helicopter with the help of his dad's CO and wove through the net of russian air defences while listening to slavic hardbass on his walkman (its slavland ok they are poor and might still use them)
"The Ukrainian General Staff tells my colleague @fpiatov, it does “not have this information” that Ukrainian forces attacked an oil depot in Belgorod oblast, hinting that the attack could have been a Russian false flag operation to justify further brutal attacks on
."Russia is using the fact of the Belgorod attack to withdraw from negotiations from Ukraine:
Why the fuck do the Russians need any excuse to withdraw from negotiations when they're already sanctioned to hell and noone is pressuring them to have negotiations? Why does an attack on Belgorod invalidate negotiating when they're dropping cruise missiles on Kiev?
Something strange is afoot
My operating theory is that the ghost of kiev's son, seeking revenge for his dad, hijacked a ukrainian attack helicopter with the help of his dad's CO and wove through the net of russian air defences while listening to slavic hardbass on his walkman (its slavland ok they are poor and might still use them)
Smity Werbenjagermanjensen
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Holy shit if this was a false flag to try and drag Belarus in or justify mobilization Russia truly is a joke.Well now it's getting weird, Ukraine Ministry Defense disavows that Ukrainian forces were responsible for Belgorod attack:
"The Ukrainian General Staff tells my colleague @fpiatov, it does “not have this information” that Ukrainian forces attacked an oil depot in Belgorod oblast, hinting that the attack could have been a Russian false flag operation to justify further brutal attacks on
Russia is using the fact of the Belgorod attack to withdraw from negotiations from Ukraine:
Why the fuck do the Russians need any excuse to withdraw from negotiations when they're already sanctioned to hell and noone is pressuring them to have negotiations? Why does an attack on Belgorod invalidate negotiating when they're dropping cruise missiles on Kiev?
Something strange is afoot
My operating theory is that the ghost of kiev's son, seeking revenge for his dad, hijacked a ukrainian attack helicopter with the help of his dad's CO and wove through the net of russian air defences while listening to slavic hardbass on his walkman (its slavland ok they are poor and might still use them)
Varg Did Nothing Wrong
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Belgorod region (31) on the plates so I wouldn't doubt it.
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Back to the gas issue. I promised to run Putin's decree by my lawyer friend and he pointed out something I overlooked.
- the payment is considered complete only after the entire amount in roubles is credited to Gazprom's ruble account.
- the roubles must be purchased on the stock exchange,
- last month, Europe bought 12 billion euro worth of gas.
- the exhange rate of rouble to euro is currently 90,
- 12 billion * 90 = 1,080,000,000,000 roubles,
- YIKES?!
- there will not be 1 trillion roubles on the stock exchange every month to exchange those euros.
His conclusion:
This law condemns the Europeans to find the roubles they need to pay for gas. And one of the main ways to get roubles is through trade with Russia. Except they cannot because sanctions. Oops.
- the payment is considered complete only after the entire amount in roubles is credited to Gazprom's ruble account.
- the roubles must be purchased on the stock exchange,
- last month, Europe bought 12 billion euro worth of gas.
- the exhange rate of rouble to euro is currently 90,
- 12 billion * 90 = 1,080,000,000,000 roubles,
- YIKES?!
- there will not be 1 trillion roubles on the stock exchange every month to exchange those euros.
His conclusion:
This law condemns the Europeans to find the roubles they need to pay for gas. And one of the main ways to get roubles is through trade with Russia. Except they cannot because sanctions. Oops.
Grand Wizard Wakka
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Helicopters have a maneuverability advantage that fixed wing aircraft cannot compete with, which allows them to use terrain masking in ways fixed wing cannot. The Panavia Tornado was designed for high speed low altitude attacks, and 7 were shot down in Iraq in their runway bombing runs. It got the British to rethink the whole low altitude attack thing and it was shifted to mid-altitude strikes for the rest of the war.
I don't see how the A-10 could light up the convoy without air superiority and dedicated SEAD support. From what we know the convoy received harassing fire from armed drones and precision artillery strikes until it dispersed, which is the most realistic form of attack Ukraine could have pulled off.
If you wanted to wreck bridges and railways, unironically an aircraft like the F-16 would be better at it. The A-10 was designed for a Vietnam style conflict and level of technology, where the aircraft like the A-6 and A-7 did the deep strikes and the A-10 existed to fill in a gap in capabilities because fast jet pilots couldn't see shit on the ground and were expected to drop payload into the jungle without hitting friendlies.
They can "tank" some amount of 14.5mm fire but only critical areas are armored against 23mm. Tunguskas and Pantsirs have 30mm cannons which I wouldn't be optimistic about.
In the age of continuous rod warheads which can slice aircraft in half, armor plates don't matter as much as they used to.
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I mean, due to demand alone, the ruble gonna just rise in prices instead, unless they do something like peg the ruble to some fixed exchange rate to euro, lul.
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Apologizing and repenting, calling himself a fool
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This is why I shy away from playing chess with Russians, I tend to lose unless I concentrate really really hard.
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So basically the arrangement is a jewish hypercube?
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I asked if whether is was зрада or перемога. He said that shit should be good long term (though we risk tying our entire economy to gas price just after we finished untying it from oil price), but that things should look up after a couple of years. I asked why we haven't done this before. He said we didn't want to ruin our relations with Europe and spook the investors, but now that this ship has sailed and the masks are off, behold the beastly face of capitalism. It is not pretty.
Oh and unlike the West who is all stick and no carrot and THE SANCTIONS ARE THERE TO STAY FOREVER NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO FUCK OFF, Putin is now dangling the promise of maybe making things just like before if Europe behaves and says pretty please with sugar on top uwu gas me harder big daddy. I swear this man is a troll.
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Smity Werbenjagermanjensen
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Alright, so two things happened.
Either A.) They organized a false flag attack on a legitimate military target and killed no civilians, which is more than what I can say they've done to Ukraine the past 5 whole weeks, to either drag Belarus into the war, justify going harder on Ukraine, or mobilizing.
Or B.) Russia got so ass blasted their Wunderwaffe S-400 was exposed as just an extremely long range SAM with all the weaknesses a SAM has that they're pulling out of peace talks for the time being, while multiple reports are showing they're running with their tail between their legs in the Kiev area.
Holy shit Russia becomes more of a joke by the day at this point.
Either A.) They organized a false flag attack on a legitimate military target and killed no civilians, which is more than what I can say they've done to Ukraine the past 5 whole weeks, to either drag Belarus into the war, justify going harder on Ukraine, or mobilizing.
Or B.) Russia got so ass blasted their Wunderwaffe S-400 was exposed as just an extremely long range SAM with all the weaknesses a SAM has that they're pulling out of peace talks for the time being, while multiple reports are showing they're running with their tail between their legs in the Kiev area.
Holy shit Russia becomes more of a joke by the day at this point.
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