General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

ngl i feel like most competent contracts would really fucking punish people who do exactly that

i feel like some people will try to pull a Calli or Coco unsuccesfuly and be beaned because of that

Cover corp isn't exactly a competent company when it comes to handling sperg outs much less if more than one did it a time


And anycolor doesn't even know what the word means

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

Cover corp isn't exactly a competent company when it comes to handling sperg outs much less if more than one did it a time


And anycolor doesn't even know what the word means

sure, but most Cover/Niji examples of the talent dropping hints have either been accidents like Coco, Noel, Kiara etc. (maybe Coco wasnt too much of an accident) and Millie referencing Lyrica, not full blow meltdowns or a very clumsy attempt at it, atleast thats how i see it

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

sure, but most Cover/Niji examples of the talent dropping hints have either been accidents like Coco, Noel, Kiara etc. (maybe Coco wasnt too much of an accident) and Millie referencing Lyrica, not full blow meltdowns or a very clumsy attempt at it, atleast thats how i see it

Well like i said, theres never a case of more than 1 incident happening at the same time. If a select group of the girls, mainly gen 1 or 2 the ones with the most subs and who've been there the longest, looked at coco and rushia, and hell even aloe doing well, what's the incentive to stay? They wouldn't have to give a big cut to cover anymore and and all 3 of the ones that have left have retained most of if not their entire userbase.

 

[Halos]

In the last 2 hours she had a meltdown about this stuff (7 tweets). Thanks to @Burnt Fish's idea I sez up a twitter bot myself which least it saved the text although I was busy and had no time to archive anything:

Spoiler: DeepL translation of Mikeneko's twitter meltdown

I don't know, I really want you to stop being like everything is my fault. I say bah, but I'm doing bad things behind the scenes, but outwardly I'm acting like I'm a good person, like I didn't do anything. I know you don't feel like you're lying or cheating without a care in the world. I just had this conversation with an acquaintance the other day, and it's so true that the bad guys get all the credit.

If you're going to make me look bad just because I don't say anything, I really can't stand it, so may things move quickly, quickly, quickly: ！！！！！！！！！！ This is still a step-by-step process.

I think it was a really hard feeling as a result of the court case that a certain activist fought for a long time after a long suspension. But I'm involved in many more things, so until then I'll continue my activities with my heart held high. You can just smile now.

Even this time, I was just having fun and the antis got involved and pretended to be a fan and I was just completely involved. I'm mentally deranged because of everything, so why am I the only one demanding an apology? You've been trying to be positive until then, but you won't let me. Besides, I'm an ordinary person, a private hobbyist distributor.

I really don't want to be a part of it. If you don't like it, don't look at it, block it or mute it and defend yourself. I think it's funny to go out of your way to make it visible and talk about it.

I get rips from people before asking me to be happy, but I can't trust people anymore because they've done so much to hurt me in my life.

From my point of view, people who beat depressed people forever are not sane.

She really needs to quit twitter or at least learn to ignore this stuff or she gets a stroke some time in the future.

At this point she needs to get therapy before she fully goes insane or kills herself

 

[EenGevolg]

I think the nepotism amongst Holo EN and Niji EN in particular is starting to hurt both companies. Isn't all of Holo EN 2 friends with one of the other tubas or staff? There's a point where I just wonder why they even have auditions at this point. If they just want to hire the people they know they can just audition the ten or so potential candidates privately and then announce the next gen when done. But then you run into the issue of EN2 being kinda boring and uninspiring compared to EN 1. With EN 1 Yagoo took several chances with the girls. That all paid off. With EN 2 they haven't really done anything notable because they're all just predictably good but not exceptional.

I don't really feel like it's been hurting either company all that much; isn't one of HoloJP's waves all a bunch of friends too? It doesn't really seem all that likely to be cronyism either; something multiple people in NijiEN have mentioned is that part of what advances you in auditions is likely how you'd mesh with the rest of the branch, in terms of both chemistry and what you bring to the table. You do generally want people who can bounce off each other well, otherwise you're left with awkward collabs like the ones Holomyth had in the beginning.

What feels like it hurt more as far as NijiEN, to the point I didn't even watch Lazulight when it debuted, was that instead of taking a risk with non-Vtuber content creators like Holo did (or even like NijiJP did when they were getting people from Nico Nico Douga), they just grabbed whatever available indie's got good enough numbers. Noctyx seems like proof that they're now more confident to look outside the box though, given that Yugo's PL was a popular TikToker and singer, while Sonny's was some TF2 content creator that pretended he's dying as a dumb kid. There also doesn't seem to be a lot more to get from Hanamori either, so I doubt there'll be much more of the same friend circle.

Millie referencing Lyrica

She was the biggest Filipino Vtuber and SEA people are notorious for getting off on "forbidden knowledge" (ex. that one Holo faggot whose name I can't remember or really bother to look up), so there wasn't exactly much of a secret to keep there. Hell, if you type Lyrica vtuber into Google, the top search results are "lyrica vtuber millie" and "lyrica vtuber new identity".

 

[Airihead]

What nepotism has gone on in HoloEN beyond Ina and Sana?

Irys and kronii
Maybe Ollie and Bae?
Gura and Mumei?(Stretchiest one)
Can't think of any for Fauna

My Kson merch I ordered soon after her Debut arrived

Spoiler: Merch

Elira and Pomu react to the fever dream that is the KH4 trailer

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

Moving away from holo dooms day posting, it seems niggers are still invading mikenekos comments about a literal nobody that spread false info about her. on twitter


Its a little refreshing to know even in japan twitter users are a blight and its not just an america thing

 

[augment]

Lui streamed Papers Please before the bird collab, then collab'd, and in a few hours is streaming Elden Ring. Then 10 hours after, tomorrow, she's streaming a zatsuBar for all.
Did she lose a bet or is she trying to win employee of the year?

 

[Sunflower Samurai]

Lui streamed Papers Please before the bird collab, then collab'd, and in a few hours is streaming Elden Ring. Then 10 hours after, tomorrow, she's streaming a zatsuBar for all.
Did she lose a bet or is she trying to win employee of the year?

Hag stamina too strong

 

[trailcamwhore]

Moving away from holo dooms day posting, it seems niggers are still invading mikenekos comments about a literal nobody that spread false info about her. on twitter

Today's not-Rushia drama was unusually stupid.

I missed the original tweet, but apparently some dude was using her hashtag to draw attention to a Genshin Impact ripoff, because she's the most popular streamer who plays it (one time). Telephone game / trolling happened, and the rrat became that she was the one ripping people off. Her fans complained to the dude who made the initial tweet. He refused to stop taking her name in vain unless she personally told him to stop. She did, so that means she's leading a harassment campaign. Etc.

Very American story, except that the Japanese Twitter liars who really hate not-Rushia are more dedicated and intense than their American equivalents. And they're not even trannies.

 

[Tor Lugosi]

Irys and kronii
Maybe Ollie and Bae?
Gura and Mumei?(Stretchiest one)
Can't think of any for Fauna

What's the actual connection between any of them? Sana and Ina were apparently good friends between Hololive but as far as I can tell with most of these their connection is largely "were vaguely aware of the other as streamers". Nepotism generally implies that a person got their job solely based on being a close friend or family member.

 

[Airless]

She really needs to quit twitter or at least learn to ignore this stuff or she gets a stroke some time in the future.

She's racking up a sizeable amount of antis. Between spited Holo antis, deranged Mafumafu fans, and now mad Genshin/Nanase fans she can't really catch a break. Hopefully she doesn't say the "t" word.

In brighter news, my saner oshi is playing SimCity

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

Final update on the ames vtuber shit.

She quit. https://twitter.com/Iracebeth_Crims/status/1510186753470214144?s=20&t=wPxDT6hxlVJznOazZtPXvg

https://archive.ph/7iGUu

I find it too funny at how many people are saying your not absolute shit to the bitch that shits herself on camera

 

[Che merda di posto]

Over-saturation of the market was bound to happen at some point.
Now comes separating the wheat from the chaff.

You're the mod here, you should remember that oversaturation of the market is another one of those loops that date back at least a year, and in a year growth hasn't stopped not for corpos nor for indies/vshoujo


Also regarding nepotism everone always seems to forget that even Holo used to hire from groups of people that already knew and worked with each other, it's evidently the best way to kickstart a new branch, you'r going to need chemistry between your talents from the get go

 

[Avokado]

 

[kadmckool]

Irys and kronii
Maybe Ollie and Bae?
Gura and Mumei?(Stretchiest one)
Can't think of any for Fauna

My Kson merch I ordered soon after her Debut arrived

Spoiler: Merch

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Elira and Pomu react to the fever dream that is the KH4 trailer
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I can see Ina and Sana as nepotism pair since fellow artist vouching for one another.

IRyS said that the selection for Council and Vsinger was simultaneously and it was decided that Vsinger would debut first before council.

Ollie and Bae nepotism is weak though. Ollie is known to watch a lot of SEA vtubers and I can see she vouched someone like Lyrica over Bae anytime.

Especially the obvious case of how Lyrica fail the Vsinger auditions due to IRyS was too strong (can’t beat someone whose cover song was so good that it killed the original).

What’s the beef about IRyS and Kronii? I don’t think they ever interact with one another in the past with IRyS being American Japanese that move back to motherland at the age of 16 to pursuit a singing career. Kronii was a Korean born voice actress that move to Canada growing up. We are talking about duck and goose here.

Gura and Mumei also do not seems to be friend as roommates with Gura being a notorious memer while Mumei is more on a traditional YouTuber vs streamer.

 

[Azchan]

I remember posting about this girl (Hana Yomeguri) like 2 months ago and she was at around 50k subs. She's now at 80k subs with 5800-6000 concurrent viewers although a good 50% or so seems to come from Hina (WACTOR's) viewers.

Pretty huge for a Spanish-speaking indie. I think Holo is missing out on a huge Spanish speaking market.

 

[Burnt Fish]

I can see Ina and Sana as nepotism pair since fellow artist vouching for one another.

IRyS said that the selection for Council and Vsinger was simultaneously and it was decided that Vsinger would debut first before council.

Ollie and Bae nepotism is weak though. Ollie is known to watch a lot of SEA vtubers and I can see she vouched someone like Lyrica over Bae anytime.

Especially the obvious case of how Lyrica fail the Vsinger auditions due to IRyS was too strong (can’t beat someone whose cover song was so good that it killed the original).

What’s the beef about IRyS and Kronii? I don’t think they ever interact with one another in the past with IRyS being American Japanese that move back to motherland at the age of 16 to pursuit a singing career. Kronii was a Korean born voice actress that move to Canada growing up. We are talking about duck and goose here.

Gura and Mumei also do not seems to be friend as roommates with Gura being a notorious memer while Mumei is more on a traditional YouTuber vs streamer.

so like, if I apply for a job and have a reference from someone at the company, is that immediately nepotism?

We seem to be playing pretty fast and loose with what the word nepotism even means at this point.

 

[Rezza]

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Is it Kiara rrat time already?

 

[kadmckool]

so like, if I apply for a job and have a reference from someone at the company, is that immediately nepotism?

We seem to be playing pretty fast and loose with what the word nepotism even means at this point.

Nepotism suggested that someone who’s obvious unqualified for the job and get the job anyway due to connection.

The example would be Artemis of the blue and Bao get into Hololive EN 3rd Gen because they happens to know Mumei via Bao via Domo’s canal and Hololive recruiter is too lazy to screen properly.