Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[mr.moon1488]

Does this look "contracted" to you? What kind of logistics company is still running 30 year old vehicles without paying out the ass for repairs and fuel inefficiency?
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Has Castro Jr. ever said anything about the Uyghurs when that was the current thing?

>Does this look "contracted" to you?
Lol yes. Even in Afghanistan where there was a real threat of IEDs being on roadsides, and in spite of the US's absolutely ridged rules, US soldiers sometimes hitched rides on contractor vehicles.
>What kind of logistics company is still running 30 year old vehicles
The kinds that aren't skimming billions off of Uncle Schlomo to move building debris from point A to point B. Aside from that, your own picture btfos the argument you were making earlier about them killing poor minivans to move arty shells around. Pretty sure if they were absolutely desperate for munitions to slaughter gorillions of Ukies those trucks wouldn't be carrying soldiers. Though I guess throwing arty shells in mom vans while putting soldiers in the back of dump trucks somehow makes sense in the slavocaust.

Those are clearly LPR/DPR troops. Their use of civilian trucks (especially construction trucks since they're naturally armored against small arms fire) to move around has been well documented since 2014. They very clearly did not have the amount of trucks or logistical capability to support the massive amount of troops that they've been mobilizing for this war. Russia gives them all the handouts they can in terms of captured vehicles but depending on when this picture was taken (especially if early war) then they were using basically anything (including 4 door sedans) to move troops around in the early stages.

I have been following the war closely since it started and haven't seen a single confirmed recorded use of civilian trucks (especially like that) by the russian army, though I'm sure it happened at least a couple of times because in war time, shit gets commandeered. Even Chechnya donated 50 4x4s to the DPR a month or so ago.

That's certainly a real possibility too. Either way, it amazes me how seeing this shit the takeaway is "Russia is so desperate for supplies they're using civilian vehicles" and not "some occupied areas are secure enough Russia is no longer concerned with convoy security."

 

[borsabil]

Lmao the third world country version of copium

Burgers, every fucking time.

The data is published by the CIA. Your own glowies are telling you that China number 1.

On your own graph, you can see a periodic increase in prices above the pre-war ones. I decided to get a daily price chart, and it was chaotic. On March 23, the price per barrel reached 101, and on April 12, it was only 78.

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Here are the pre-war prices. You can see that prices at the beginning of the year were even worse than post-sanctions.
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Undoubtedly, there is an economic struggle going on, and it is too early to talk about the results, but this is very far from the collapse of the Russian energy economy.

Sanctions can never work against a country like Russia. Like the burger retard said some countries are just too big with too many resources, and Russia is fucking huge.

They're self sufficient in food and are a net exporter of energy. Only a trade embargo against all hydrocarbon exports has the chance of actually effecting Russia's war effort, and it's obvious that no European country is prepared to do that. Right now the Ukrainian government is being paid by the Russian government to allow shipment of natural gas to it's European markets through the pipelines running through their territory. The Ukies could blow up the pipelines any time they felt like it to halt the shipments, but they aren't and they won't.

Russia will survive the lack of French wines and Hollywood movies. But how will Germany get on without Russian gas? Electricity is great we all agree.

 

[MichałDrzymała]

Fire is one of the worst things that can happen to a ship at sea, munitions cooking off is just one. I hope they really did rescue everyone.

Also wtf, Russia's had a navy going back to the reign of the Tsars, you think they might have learned how to keep disasters from happening by now.

You should read up on the Russian Baltic fleet during the Russian-Japanese war in the 1900s. It was a comedy of errors to say the least.

 

[White_N]

Instill fear into the hearts of salo worshippers!

There will be a Caliphate, there will be, Inshaallah!

 

[Elbereth]

Sanctions can never work against a country like Russia. Like the burger retard said some countries are just too big with too many resources, and Russia is fucking huge.

They're self sufficient in food and are a net exporter of energy. Only a trade embargo against all hydrocarbon exports has the chance of actually effecting Russia's war effort, and it's obvious that no European country is prepared to do that. Right now the Ukrainian government is being paid by the Russian government to allow shipment of natural gas to it's European markets through the pipelines running through their territory. The Ukies could blow up the pipelines any time they felt like it to halt the shipments, but they aren't and they won't.

Russia will survive the lack of French wines and Hollywood movies. But how will Germany get on without Russian gas? Electricity is great we all agree.

Russia imports much more thing than french wine. They import life saving drugs (which are unsanctioned, but affected by exchange rates), all microprocessor, radio components, aircraft components, car parts, smartphones, and many many other.

It is nowhere near self-sufficient. Unless your definition of self-sufficient is that they eat flour with vodka and are effectivly moved back into 19th century.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Only a trade embargo against all hydrocarbon exports has the chance of actually effecting Russia's war effort, and it's obvious that no European country is prepared to do that.

Idk, it would be insane, but they're already doing lots of irrational and self-harming stuff.

Kinda feels like they're psyching themselves up for something like that, what do they do when there's another "atrocity"?

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

You should read up on the Russian Baltic fleet during the Russian-Japanese war in the 1900s. It was a comedy of errors to say the least.

I remember a story from that war where the Russian fleet was preparing and exercising in the Baltic Sea and the sailors were constantly worried that an attack by the Japanese was imminent. Apparently geography wasn't part of naval training.

 

[draggs]

70% of global GDP? Is that right?

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power-parity/country-comparison

Russia's real economy is about the same size as Germany's. China overtook the US economy about 10 years ago.

How does America make it's money? The US economy is 80% services, compared to 60% in Russia and 50% in China. That's why it runs massive and ongoing trade and fiscal deficits because it does not possess sufficient industry, whether that be manufacturing, mining or agriculture, to pay for all the stuff it needs.

As for degeneracy? The US government has just announced an official policy to encourage the chemical castration of it's own children. Enough said.

If you were an actual patriot, instead of a shit flinging coomer, you'd be awake to how fucked your country really is. Instead you'll cope and seethe.

tbh kinda stopped paying attention after hearing the sheer delusion that China surpassed the US economy in size ten years ago

Russia's real GDP equals Germany's ROFL. Russia is like the only nation on earth then where real GDP is larger than vanilla GDP. Everywhere else, real GDP is a smaller amount. By the way the US by any GDP measure other than the vanilla one is like 40% better than China's even if you accept China's fake numbers

The biggest real estate bubble in history that makes the US real estate bubble of 15 years ago look like a kid's balloon next to a Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade float is so impressive. Real estate assets that will NEVER turn a profit or even get close to breaking even are like 20% of their GDP, with another 10-15% being real estate assets that are actually productive. Or at least kinda productive

China imposed a policy of stunting population growth for 35 years that has left it in an inescapable demographic trap while the US is one of the few industrialized countries on earth that is not in an inescapable demographic trap. Talk about degeneracy lol. Maybe you don't understand the difference between a country like the US where a government can announce a policy or intention and it means nothing past the next election, and one like China where an announced policy or intention can last for decades no matter how retarded it is

Yeah I'm not a real patriot because I make you cope and seethe by not agreeing that my country is fucked. ngl I expect better rhetorical tricks than this

 

[TheTrumanShow]

Richard Spencer was happy that The Traitors Coalition lost a major supply of copium.

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https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1514051636011814916

https://archive.ph/WmbMn

In the mean time their account is active again but it's set to private so only followers can see what they post.

lol RS is woke with EU flag and Ukraine flag? Are you shitting me. What a fucking sellout hahahhahaha

 

[UVB-76]

>Does this look "contracted" to you?
Lol yes. Even in Afghanistan where there was a real threat of IEDs being on roadsides, and in spite of the US's absolutely ridged rules, US soldiers sometimes hitched rides on contractor vehicles.
>What kind of logistics company is still running 30 year old vehicles
The kinds that aren't skimming billions off of Uncle Schlomo to move building debris from point A to point B. Aside from that, your own picture btfos the argument you were making earlier about them killing poor minivans to move arty shells around. Pretty sure if they were absolutely desperate for munitions to slaughter gorillions of Ukies those trucks wouldn't be carrying soldiers. Though I guess throwing arty shells in mom vans while putting soldiers in the back of dump trucks somehow makes sense in the slavocaust.

There's a difference between hitching a ride on contractor vehicles, and trying to refuel M1 Abrams at the front lines.
I'm not sure you understood my point. It's actually cheaper to run vehicles with a decent supply of parts and increased fuel efficiency than relying on rust buckets.
Look at logistics aviation vs commercial flights. Many low cost airline companies have decently modern fleets because they save money on fuel costs. They make the money back on how frequently they fly and how much fuel doesn't get burned thanks to modern engines.
However, the billion dollar companies have their cargo flown around by older aircraft as they often have to do short hop flights and stay at local airports overnight. They can afford to maintain and fuel older aircraft.

That's certainly a real possibility too. Either way, it amazes me how seeing this shit the takeaway is "Russia is so desperate for supplies they're using civilian vehicles" and not "some occupied areas are secure enough Russia is no longer concerned with convoy security."

Some of you people are really adamant about taking the worst faith interpretation possible.
A secure and occupied area can still bust the fuck out of a vehicle being used for war purposes, even if it's not in danger of getting shot at.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

Folks, I would suggest this. No matter which side you have favored in this war, once the books start coming out about the war read them. Read even the ones from people you may not agree with.

Do you think the books written about this war will be as good as Bloodlands?

 

[TheTrumanShow]

Instill fear into the hearts of salo worshippers!
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There will be a Caliphate, there will be, Inshaallah!

Bacon ^2.

As garlic to Vampires.

 

[MichałDrzymała]

I remember a story from that war where the Russian fleet was preparing and exercising in the Baltic Sea and the sailors were constantly worried that an attack by the Japanese was imminent. Apparently geography wasn't part of naval training.

There appeared to be very little training to begin with in the Russian navy. No matter if it's the Russian Baltic fleet or the Kursk submarine disaster or some of the shenanigans during their Soviet period, the Russians have always been idiots when it comes naval matters.

 

[Nopenopenope]

Little tidbit regarding chink engineers: the get good grades by cheating. Not a big deal in gender studies and other bullshit careers. Absolutely disastrous to do in engineering and other real disciplines.

Also even if you pass STEM, there’s the small matter of practical experience which Universities suck at.

I don’t think they will make up the gap anytime soon.

I've only had experience with Indians, if Chinese are the same then there is nothing to worry about. I don't know what it is, they just seem incapable of thinking independently. Any mechanical, electrical engineering boards are populated with curry niggers asking how to do the job they are supposed to be qualified to do. Academically it's just plagiarism all the way down.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Russia imports much more thing than french wine. They import life saving drugs (which are unsanctioned, but affected by exchange rates), all microprocessor, radio components, aircraft components, car parts, smartphones, and many many other.

It is nowhere near self-sufficient. Unless your definition of self-sufficient is that they eat flour with vodka and are effectivly moved back into 19th century.

Nearly all their modern military shit relies on western processors or electronics. PGMs, modern fire control systems, things to that effect. Unless the Chinks are willing to export a lot of their processors (which will of course come at a massive price markup since no other country that makes them to the spec they need will be willing to give them theirs, so it's either Chink Processors or massively outdated ones) they're shit out of luck.

 

[Wy4M]

Oh hey, this is that captured UK dude. Well, before he got captured.
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"Johnny Wood"
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That same person suddenly pretends that he can barely speak English and oh yeah, he refused to fight.

https://twitter.com/MapsUkraine/status/1514674701330751491

https://archive.ph/2I0Sb

For reference, here are 2 vids from about 3 weeks ago, the 25th of March

 

[mr.moon1488]

There's a difference between hitching a ride on contractor vehicles, and trying to refuel M1 Abrams at the front lines.
I'm not sure you understood my point. It's actually cheaper to run vehicles with a decent supply of parts and increased fuel efficiency than relying on rust buckets.
Look at logistics aviation vs commercial flights. Many low cost airline companies have decently modern fleets because they save money on fuel costs. They make the money back on how frequently they fly and how much fuel doesn't get burned thanks to modern engines.
However, the billion dollar companies have their cargo flown around by older aircraft as they often have to do short hop flights and stay at local airports overnight. They can afford to maintain and fuel older aircraft.

Some of you people are really adamant about taking the worst faith interpretation possible.
A secure and occupied area can still bust the fuck out of a vehicle being used for war purposes, even if it's not in danger of getting shot at.

>Some of you people are really adamant about taking the worst faith interpretation possible
Lol really nigger? Legit at least 90% of the shit coming out of Ukraine turns out to either be an out-and-out lie within 24 hours with the rest being an extreme exaggeration and then some of you people get absolutely assblasted when people start taking things with a massive grain of salt.
>I'm not sure you understood my point. It's actually cheaper to run vehicles with a decent supply of parts and increased fuel efficiency than relying on rust buckets.
No, I understood your point, it was just an awful point. Yeah, more modern vehicles would be more efficient. These billion-dollar companies can afford to buy those more efficient vehicles. Ivan's moving and scrap company can't afford those more efficient vehicles. You're forgetting that those aviation companies you mention typically sell their old planes to other airlines in countries that can't afford to shove so many big macs down their gullet they have to have multiple heart surgeries before their 40s.

 

[borsabil]

I've only had experience with Indians, if Chinese are the same then there is nothing to worry about. I don't know what it is, they just seem incapable of thinking independently. Any mechanical, electrical engineering boards are populated with curry niggers asking how to do the job they are supposed to be qualified to do. Academically it's just plagiarism all the way down.

Burger writes post decrying how shit Pajeets are at engineering. ( Checks notes ) American hi-tec is utterly reliant on Indian engineers because their Jew owners worked out they’ll work for peanuts. Burger then goes onto explain that China will never ever surpass America coz they’re not as good as Americans at STEM.

Also American woke universities game the system to exclude Asians otherwise there classes would be 90% Chinamen.

You can’t make this shit up. Cope thy name is burger

 

[White_N]

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Bacon ^2.

As garlic to Vampires.

One day, salo will be united with Borodino bread, one day...

 

[Elbereth]

Nearly all their modern military shit relies on western processors or electronics. PGMs, modern fire control systems, things to that effect. Unless the Chinks are willing to export a lot of their processors (which will of course come at a massive price markup since no other country that makes them to the spec they need will be willing to give them theirs, so it's either Chink Processors or massively outdated ones) they're shit out of luck.

Chinks won't export processors. They are very focused on growing their economy and if US sanction their chipmakers, Already they reduced their investments in Russia in fear of possible sanctions. US banning Huawei traumatized them that much.

Russia actually developed advanced navigation and targeting system that would allow "dumb", unguided bomb to have precision high enough to target singular unit. They tried to use it in Ukraine, however it requires plane to fly at about 8km of altitude. This means they would have to destroy mid-range AA system to be safe. Ukraine's mid-range AA is still operational, so they have to fly closer to ground. This mean their accuracy is off, and they are in range of short-range AA, like infantry with a stinger, or other MANPADS.