Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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An interesting thread on how corruption (duh) possibly contributed to the sinking of Moscow and has left much of the Russian fleet defenseless.

Some bonus Russian loss porn: new SU-34 downed, Kh-52 and a video from the local drone club absolutely curbstomping some Russian niggers and lastly a Ukrainian BTR-3 either taking out a Russian vehicle (possibly a tank?) with the usual Russian convoy burning in the background.

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Russia didn't have to invade Damascus and all of Syria to just control the Golan Heights. But they did smash Syria's air force and air defense and armor, just like Russia with Ukraine.
I didn't say Russia's goal was to invade all of Ukraine. They didn't have to. To force a settlement they just had to topple the government. That was the goal of Kiev thrust.

If Russia wants a settlement in their favour now they will either have to occupy the entire country or hope to God that the Ukrainians are stupid enough to capitulate.

Syria is hardly comparable- the strategic goals and operational goals are nowhere near the same.
 
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These are apparently from a weapons cache that was found in a plumbing store that is owned by a Right Sector leader, The thing that seemed weird to me is why do they have an American flag? I know the red and black one is the Bandera flag and I assume what's written on the Russian flag is insulting so I get those but why would they have an American flag? I mean are they that much of a CIA op that they say the pledge of allegiance to the flag every day?
They simply enjoy having a flag around that isn't designed by a toothpaste company. Pretty simple really.
 
I hope you're being sarcastic.
He's just dumb and doesn't realize half the shit that went down in the middle east was caused by slav retards fucking with crops. Because slavtards get anxious when they aren't fucking with basic widely understood economic systems.
 
Results of the war if true: Ukraine joins EU on the double,
Will never happen because the number of seats are for a very big part related to the number of inhabitants a country has.
Ukraine has a population 44 million. (compare with Spain that has 47 million) and see how influential it might be.

fyi - Turkey's population is a bit more then Germany (84 vs 83 million) and that's why they also will never be allowed to join the EU.

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Believe it or not, I read once that women fare better with heavier weapons due to their center of mass being more appropriate for their handling. Making them excellent snipers and fire support with light machine guns!
Generally speaking, women have superior color contrast in their eyesight. I imagine that helps a lot when targeting the enemy.
 
You can disagree that Donbas hasn't been the focus but you are presenting it like the pro-Russia or just anti-Ukie crowd is now all of the suddenly pivoting to the Donbas because of failures elsewhere, we've been talking about Donbas being the focus since the start of the war. Once again you can disagree with that thinking but it's not some newfound talking point to cope. Also on the "if the stores about the generals and the codes being cracked are true", I don't think there's a reason why anyone should believe a word that is coming out of the Ukrainian and Western side. They've lied repeatedly throughout this. Any "RUSSIA IS SCREWED THEY ARE REALLY FUCKED NOW" story should almost be dismissed immediately because the overwhelming majority of them have been false.
But maybe I'm wrong and you're right, who knows? I guess we will find out eventually.
We probably have different views but this is a very rational take. Everyone is lying and they have different motivations for doing so. They're also all lying to target different people, psyops are getting so complex that i don't know who's jewing who anymore.
We need to end this war now. War is toxic masculinity
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The mindfuck is you have to go to war to end that mentality of dominance and strength, therefore proving the mentality is right.
 
DPR/LPR won't want to leave without full control of all their claimed territory. I don't think they'll want to fight another decade long border conflict either.
I do not think there is any way that there won't be at least another 8 years of, uh, "ceasefire violations" between Ukraine and the claimed territories when Russia calls troops back. It was already bad before the war; no way it will be better after it, seriously mangled Ukrainian army nonwithstanding.
One thing is for sure: post-war diplomatic relations and life will be very very interesting.
 
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Let's look at Congress
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Black Jesus was in default of his student loans before he ran for office (his and Michelle's credit reports were leaked). Now? lol
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The Clintons continued to make millions long after Bill put out his last cigar only God knows where and Hillary carpetbagged her way into a Senate seat in NY, a state she had absolutely no ties to until she bought a mansion upstate right before declaring her run.
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Both are mafia states except you could say Russia doesn't sugarcoat its poo.
Notice Nancy Pelosi and her $100+ million are missing. Mafia is right, even down to who gets protected and who doesn't.

Also on the Obama infographic, note the book deals. Netflix can be added to that now as well. This is how the elite launder money to politicians. I'm sure you know this, I'm more speaking to the crowd.
 
News from Ukraine:

At night in the Kharkiv region, the fighters of the 93rd Bomber made a cutlet of Ka-52 orcs and pulverized those who tried to save the pilots. Both pilots and rescuers were burned alive

So the Ukrainian troops are not just letting the pilots die, but also killing the rescuers?
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News from Ukraine:

At night in the Kharkiv region, the fighters of the 93rd Bomber made a cutlet of Ka-52 orcs and pulverized those who tried to save the pilots. Both pilots and rescuers were burned alive

So the Ukrainian troops are not just letting the pilots die, but also killing the rescuers?
Rescuers is probably whatever russian personnel were close by and told to save the pilot. KA-52 pilots can eject so that's probably what they did, unless they were very close to the ground (which could be the case).

Either that or they sent a rescue chopper (which wouldn't be a first for either side) and that got shot down as well.
 
It doesn't take a genius to realise Donbass wasn't the focus. If it was, there would have been no need to invade, or at most, to simply start "protective operations" or whatever term Putin wants to use in the areas claimed by the rebel groups. The fact is that the main thrust of this war was against Kiev. You don't have multiple divisional columns of tanks and trucks and MRAPs rushing down to Kiev alongside an air assault on a major airport in the capital unless the goal was regime toppling. That was the operational focus. You can argue Donbass is the strategic focus, in that Russia would like those regions to be confirmed as legally distinct from Ukraine post-invasion, but that was never going to happen by just fighting in Donbass and Putin knew it. What we see now is Russia attempting to achieve it's strategic goals in a new operation- the first failed, and now the war is being fought the exact opposite way they wanted. It absolutely is cope, not because of the talking points, but because it's just like the Ukrainian supporters were doing a month ago. "Actually Ukraine can lose XYZ, actually Russia doesn't need XYZ, actually this was a feint, actually Ghost of Kinevil is a good lie for morale, actually Russia is protector of tradcathfemboys, actually Ukraine is ready to push in Moscow tomorrow morning", it's all the same shit. Moskva being lost is a huge deal, Russia didn't "feint" an assault on Kiev only to take almost three weeks now to attack elsewhere, and Russia isn't the one who will have to rebuild countless cities if Ukraine even manages to take everything back.

I also agree we shouldn't believe anything. That's why I said "IF". That carries a lot of water. It makes the difference between Moskva being a potential lucky strike or a game changing strategic rebalance. I'm pro-Ukraine insofar as they are a sovereign state defending against an invasion. I have no illusions about the reality of this war. I had none at the start. My prediction from day one was that what is happening now with Ukraine defending but Russia being severely limited in their operational capabilities would occur, but with far more damage to Ukraine than we have seen. I didn't think they'd invade precisely because a rational actor would see there is a very limited chance of success. The war was probably decided in the first 48 hours when Zelenskyy decided to stay in Kiev and the Russians couldn't oust him. Both sides have lied throughout this. Western intelligence predicted the invasion and forced Putin to delay the date of attack. They've been providing a lot of good intelligence to Ukraine. That isn't for nothing. You won't see any of this unless it results in actionable victories. Moskva was probably attacked after Western intelligence told Ukraine where it was and what it was doing, using Western missiles.

Russia is screwed in that they are now a pariah state that even China is wary about interacting with. Even if they win, Russia is going to have to undergo a huge military spending program to recover their forces and Ukraine will have infinite IMF money and a fast-tracked EU membership to rebuild. If they surrender the contested regions, that's the main hindrance to NATO membership gone. I dismiss most of the small stories in this war because they are both meaningless and probably false. The real story is in the strategic picture, and it looks worse every day for Russia
This is easily disproven by the fact that one of the opening battles of the invasion was the VDV assault on Antonov airport. You don't land several battalions of special forces and conduct a multi-pronged armoured thrust on a single target for a "raid". You assault an airport to land a shit tonne of supplies and troops quickly. The intent was patently obvious, to end political resistance in Ukraine and prevent the war turning into an actual shooting match like it is now, rather than a quick skirmish.

If Kiev was the main thrust why didn’t the Russians use more troops? The used elite troops, but only 10-15% of their ground forces, compared to the largest and most important city their enemy has. I do think it’s possible they hoped to somehow intimidate Ukraine into surrendering by driving a few brigades worth of vehicles through Kiev on day four, but if that was the only reason why weren’t they significantly reinforced after the beginning of March? Why weren’t there more Russian attempts to actually move into the city?

A “raid” in this context means an operation which penetrates into enemy territory with the goal of destroying, disorganizing and distracting/suppressing their forces without the intent to annex/hold the territory. This requires high-quality units, but a limited number of them. Use of VDV seems pretty in line with their Cold War/usual paratrooper doctrine which calls for capturing/neutralizing of key targets only a few days before the main advance to help facilitate it.

If Ukraine stands Russia can just escalate due to being by far the bigger opponent. This is a conventional war, which is right on Russia’s doorstep. While a quick capitulation could have been a Russian hope they've now been fighting for almost two months, and barring a miracleX20 Ukraine is going to run out of hardware and cohesive units long before Russia does, so Russia isn’t going to be discouraged to keep the war going.

The fact that Russia started the war in the first place means they see it as preferable to western sanctions, and while their economy/foreign relations take a huge hit the use of military force in general means they see an existential threat in NOT invading Ukraine. That triumphs economic losses.
 
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