Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Givi]

Ukraine claims that Russian tank production stopped since week two of this conflict. Still no information from Russian sources to back this up.

Added: Notable, if correct.

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/russia-supply-chain-tanks-defense/2022/04/16/id/1065966/?ns_mail_uid=32ade90a-5dd3-4a6e-937d-3f54e121bd1a&ns_mail_job=DM323110_04162022&s=acs&dkt_nbr=01010403ryh8

https://archive.ph/Te1Q8

This was claimed by Ukraine around 25 days ago and this video was posted in response around a day later. If Russia's entire tank industry could be brought to heel within a month of a war with the West, they may as well have not been building tanks at all because I don't think they were planning/were scared of a war with China.

The only thing they could possibly be lacking is good optics, but the chinks make those by now so they could probably swing a deal since China is once again winning a war without firing a single shot so I'm sure they'd be happy to secretly oblige.

Uralvagonzavod working

 

[White_N]

The capture of the Ilyich plant in Mariupol

Excuse me, are you really a sapper?

 

[White_N]

The Russian side opened a humanitarian corridor in Mariupol.

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During April 16, 2022, there was a sharp increase in the intensity of radio communications by nationalist militants and foreign mercenaries blocked in Mariupol at Azovstal steel plant. At the same time, the content of radio intercepts (367 were received in the past 24 hours alone) shows that the resisting fighters are in a desperate situation, practically without food and water. They insist that the official authorities in Kiev allow them to lay down their arms and surrender. However, the Ukrainian authorities categorically forbid this and threaten to carry out further executions under "wartime" conditions.

After the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation called on Ukrainian nationalists and foreign mercenaries to stop fighting and lay down their arms, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation published the following algorithm of actions for the implementation of humoperation:

— from 05:00 (Moscow time), continuous communication is established between the Russian and Ukrainian sides for the mutual exchange of information;

— from 05:30 (Moscow time), the militants of the National Security forces and foreign mercenaries — on the one hand, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation together with the military formations of the DPR — on the other hand, declare a "regime of complete silence" and guarantee its strict observance;

— the actual beginning of the "silence regime", this is 06:00 (Moscow time), is indicated by the raising of flags by both sides: from the Russian side — red, from the Ukrainian side — white around the perimeter of Azovstal. In addition, the fact that the parties are ready to introduce a "silence mode" is confirmed by all communication channels;

— from 06:00 to 13:00 (Moscow time) — the exit of all Ukrainian armed units and foreign mercenaries without exception, without any weapons and ammunition.
(ENG) https://telegra.ph/Emergency-Statem...arian-Response-in-Ukraine-April-16-2022-04-16
(RU) https://telegra.ph/Srochnoe-zayavle...manitarnomu-reagirovaniyu-ot-16-aprelya-04-16

 

[mindlessobserver]

According to Ministry of Defense, the last remaining Mariupol defenders have retreated into the bunkers under Azovsteel factory - apparently there is an entire defense network built after WW2, so they are taking full advantage of it - but are low on food, water and ammo and are paging Kiev for the permission to surrender. Kiev says no and "threatens executions in accordance with war time law".

Not sure if I buy it, but that's what the Russian high command is feeding to the newsies.

It's probably more accurate to say Russia intends to kill them all since they are not Ukrainian Marines (who have Surrendered) and are the remnants of the Azov and the Foreign fighters.

Russia can't admit to this incidentally, as refusing surrenders is a punishable war crime. As for Ukraine itself, it beggers belief Kiev is in any position to tell the forces in Mariople to do anything. I am sure they have told them to fight to the death. that suits them just fine. Keeps Russia delayed, and gets rid of Azov. Win win. But the idea Kiev can make them do it is silly.

 

[RodgerDodger]

They're basically upset and grasping at straws as they flail around for who to blame. The started this with the expectation they'd be vastly superior to Ukraine and that "the West" would do nothing. Instead they've been struggling against Ukraine who's mostly using refurbished or upgraded Soviet gear. While NATO did get involved with heavy economic sanctions, but only relatively modest military support, only sending some shoulder fire missiles and more former Soviet gear. That Ukraine's mostly going toe to toe with them with such little support is a huge blow to their ego they're having difficulty accepting. Especially when it's partially because of their own corruption created shortcomings. Hence contradicting excuses.


One would hope that they aren't so insecure that merely being potentially driven out of Ukraine is regarded as an existential threat.

It's an existential threat for Putin. Russia really doesn't matter in his calculations.

 

[Based Boy]

It's probably more accurate to say Russia intends to kill them all since they are not Ukrainian Marines (who have Surrendered) and are the remnants of the Azov and the Foreign fighters.

Russia can't admit to this incidentally, as refusing surrenders is a punishable war crime. As for Ukraine itself, that suits them just fine. Keeps Russia delayed, and gets rid of Azov. Win win.

Actually, Russia wants as many AZOV members and glowniggers in there custody as possible.
There would be some show trials for sure, and the more nazilarpers and glowis you have, the better. Also helps to post factum justify the war, considering they would confess there crimes before all of Russia.(Or say whatever good Chechen handlers would want them to say).

 

[White_N]

Russia at the UN raised the issue of a granny with a Red Banner, which was trampled by Ukrainian servicemen

"I want to believe that very soon she will be liberated and will be able to safely take out the Red Banner from the house, and on Victory Day, sacred to all of us, to honor the memory of her parents and those who liberated Ukraine from the Nazis, without fear that someone will trample on this Banner," - said the first deputy Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation Dmitry Polyansky.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Because large amount of media in ukraine was owned by russian oligarchs. Like this dude:
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Arguing about who's pressured more: west or Russia is pretty pointless, because it is all said and done. We cannot undo this war. Yeah, I can agree that there were some pressures from the west.

Right now, ukraine is more than it was before the war. Even Russian speaking population is aligning themself with current Ukrainian government. They are very few collaborations and there is active resistance from civil population in occupied land.

Yeah even most of the Russians in Ukraine are supportive of Ukraine. Russia goofed in this war by not taking account the population.

 

[RodgerDodger]

It is fascinating to think that right now, the USA has devised a plan

Let me just stop you right there...

 

[draggs]

Captain America: "I don't wanna kill anyone. I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from."
Captain Ukraine:
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Fucking based. This Jew keeps impressing.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Very interesting article regarding the Japanese approach toward Russia due to the war. Japan can be added to the USA/EU/NATO/other supporters of Ukraine. Means a lot. Believe Japan has already supplied some stuff to Ukraine, would expect more as time goes on. You also have a rather substantial Japanese military which can stave off any Russian conventional military riposte against Japan.

https://thediplomat.com/2022/03/how-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-changed-japans-security-policy/

https://archive.ph/pwdZz

Is the Type-01 LMAT going to join the Javelin, Spike and N-LAW, along with Ukranian Skif & Stugna-P's in the T-90 swatting parade?

A multinational coalition of anti-tank missiles buttfucking the T-90.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Actually, Russia wants as many AZOV members and glowniggers in there custody as possible.
There would be some show trials for sure, and the more nazilarpers and glowis you have, the better. Also helps to post factum justify the war, considering they would confess there crimes before all of Russia.(Or say whatever good Chechen handlers would want them to say).

Well, a lot of them were retarded enough to actually record their war crimes and post them on twatter so there wouldn't need to be a lot of action from any Chechen handlers.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

No shit, Sherlock. This is exactly why Putin is trying to dislodge you and your Nazi butt buddies by force.

This article that was posted recently, from a 2014 complaint to the European Parliament:

the body representing the Ukrainian teaching profession has submitted a written demand for an immediate end to the use by ethnic Greeks of an enemy language

Linguistic struggles are as old as words themselves, but the term "enemy language" is next level stuff. Over a third of Ukies speak Russian and their teachers' union was designating Russian speaking kids as official "enemies" 8 years ago. Because logically, people speaking the "enemy language" must be enemies.

For all the crying and lying and crazy female protests, seems the managerial class in Ukraine actually wanted this war, and had been actively trying to bring it about for a decade. The pantheon of dubious Ukrainian "heroes" including WW2 era Nazi war criminals was another sign that this isn't normal patriotism or nationalism, these people are dangerous lunatics.

 

[Based Boy]

Well, a lot of them were retarded enough to actually record their war crimes and post them on twatter so there wouldn't need to be a lot of action from any Chechen handlers.

Well, some Chechen action would not hurt anybody. Outside of AZOV, that is.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Is the Type-01 LMAT going to join the Javelin, Spike and N-LAW in the T-90 swatting parade?

A multinational coalition of anti-tank missiles buttfucking the T-90.

Ignoring the "tanks are obsolete crowd" People really do forget that Infantry can be given a counter measure to almost anything these days. Need to take down a helicopter effectively use the Stinger,Strella, or Manpats. Need to buttfuck a tank from a distance try the Javalin, need it slightly closer try the Stukna, or N-law. Need it cheaper try the AT4 and if you're a poor even the RPG-7 can do trick via disabling the tracks or weak spots. Even a simple firebomb can be used effectively against tanks and armored vehicles.

 

[Ilfitir]

 

[LeChampion1992]

This article that was posted recently, from a 2014 complaint to the European Parliament:



Linguistic struggles are as old as words themselves, but the term "enemy language" is next level stuff. Over a third of Ukies speak Russian and their teachers' union was designating Russian speaking kids as official "enemies" 8 years ago. Because logically, people speaking the "enemy language" must be enemies.

For all the crying and lying and crazy female protests, seems the managerial class in Ukraine actually wanted this war, and had been actively trying to bring it about for a decade. The pantheon of dubious Ukrainian "heroes" including WW2 era Nazi war criminals was another sign that this isn't normal patriotism or nationalism, these people are dangerous lunatics.

I mean most of the far right in Ukraine are probably the least worrying people out of all of this. I'm more concerned with the oligarchs and EU beaurecrats that have their hands deep in the cookie jars.

Then let's look at the Russians the countries corruption. The country outside of the core region that's firmly under Russian state security control has a massive problem with the Russian Mafia constantly extorting military bases. Don't forget their general class ranges from competent to utterly corrupt. As for the lack of a Jr officer corp that's independent they don't have the ability to make on the ground decisions.

 

[mr.moon1488]

This article that was posted recently, from a 2014 complaint to the European Parliament:



Linguistic struggles are as old as words themselves, but the term "enemy language" is next level stuff. Over a third of Ukies speak Russian and their teachers' union was designating Russian speaking kids as official "enemies" 8 years ago. Because logically, people speaking the "enemy language" must be enemies.

For all the crying and lying and crazy female protests, seems the managerial class in Ukraine actually wanted this war, and had been actively trying to bring it about for a decade. The pantheon of dubious Ukrainian "heroes" including WW2 era Nazi war criminals was another sign that this isn't normal patriotism or nationalism, these people are dangerous lunatics.

Bandera was an absolute psychopath. He was arrested multiple times for terroristic activities by the Gestapo and they eventually sent him off to Sachsenhausen where he ordered massacres to be carried out against Poles. The Germans most likely wanted to execute him but were afraid doing so would set off the Ukrainian nationalists. He was eventually cut loose and sent to fight the Russians because Germany desperately needed bodies, and it would be convenient if he got killed fighting the USSR. You do kind of wonder how much of that crazy shit has held over in Ukraine since then.

 

[Almighty Bukhanka]

https://nitter.net/mtracey/status/1515070539710275586#m

Zelensky, who has banned all 11 opposition parties and consolidated all TV channels under one govt-approved source, is "the leader of the free world."

Good to know what "free world" actually means.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

I mean most of the far right in Ukraine are probably the least worrying people out of all of this. I'm more concerned with the oligarchs and EU beaurecrats that have their hands deep in the cookie jars.

Then let's look at the Russians the countries corruption. The country outside of the core region that's firmly under Russian state security control has a massive problem with the Russian Mafia constantly extorting military bases. Don't forget their general class ranges from competent to utterly corrupt. As for the lack of a Jr officer corp that's independent they don't have the ability to make on the ground decisions.

Idk what you're trying to say.

Ukraine and Russia are corrupt shitholes run by gangsters, this is known.

The "far right" in Ukraine isn't just a fringe hobby for football hooligans and military larpers, it's the dominant political ideology (funded and promoted by the oligarchs). This ideology is extremely aggressive towards its own Russian speaking Greeks, Hungarians and other minorities born in Ukraine.

Bandera, who is now a Ukrainian national hero, appeared on their stamps a few years ago and had dozens of statues built to him recently, wasn't a typical Romantic era nationalist or simple Slavic warlord. He was a Nazi collaborator with big plans to Katyn the Polish leadership and create a "pure" Ukrainian race ( ). His organisation murdered Ukrainian Poles in their tens of thousands, mostly unarmed men, women and children who had already suffered terribly from the German invasion, only to be murdered by their own countrymen.

The more recent "enemy language" stuff comes from the same dismal ideological strain, with the same basic intentions, and it's supported by the Ukrainian government. Ethnic hatred, paranoia, and violent rhetoric (plus actual violence) against people who haven't harmed you, just for speaking their own language, is the kind of thing we expect to see in the worst shitholes in Africa. It's bad enough to make United Russia look sane and reasonable by comparison.