General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Todd's Mistake]

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I might just be a retard, but I like a woman where I don't have to be on the edge of my seat if she's going to accidentally upend a glass of water onto her tits in the process of trying to drink.

There comes a point where the inability to perform the fairly basic and, ultimately, less interesting gameplay in order to get to the real meat of the experience, the fucking lunacy that is the rest of the game story, starts to detract from the experience.

 

[Boopersnout]

So, uh. Kronii's member stream. I joined 9 minutes in. Has anyone been in since the start? WTF did I miss? Some sort of stalker or actual no-bullshit domestic violence situation?

Yeah I got in similar time as you. Think it was might have someone she knows or knows her family. (said that she still lives with them) Said that they "vaguely knows" that she is a vtuber, but didn't catch the very beginning.

 

[Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus]

Damn. Lia's almost always something because she's super good at the weirdest fuckin phrasing or disconnected rants. So if it was notable then I really wonder what I missed.


I mean the monkey basically led the goodbye off with an offer of a second collab, so who knows. Whether she was actually hard filtered we'll see. There was definitely a severe case of Pipkin but I don't think she actually scared her off just yet.

Here you go, started grabbing it when someone said she was drinking since she tends to nuke those: https://gofile.io/d/k5SdrO

Highly recommend the Selen/Enna/Fulgur/Uki Stickfight collab for anyone who wasn't watching it, pretty hilarious and Uki's audio was low throughout so there was minimal faggot voice.

 

[Kazuma]

So, uh. Kronii's member stream. I joined 9 minutes in. Has anyone been in since the start? WTF did I miss? Some sort of stalker or actual no-bullshit domestic violence situation?

Kronii said that one of her family members is not a good person and last Friday that person did something that put Kronii and her family in danger. She mentioned that she almost called the cops.

 

[A_Space_Godzilla]

Still, I enjoyed this stream because seeing the "sigma male" Pippa dynamic over someone else and making them uncomfortable was pretty fucking hilarious.

Yeah I really enjoyed it too! I also enjoy any time Pippa gets a little creepy. Koa came off as too boring and normie, but it worked really well with Pippa jabbing at her so much. I wanted some child bullying and I got it!

 

[trailcamwhore]

Numberfaggotry is faggotry, and YouTube numbers are ridiculous lies, but this happened to line up right on the page, so:

Expected "rank," with Moom gradually closing in on Kronii who started out way ahead at debut, and Gura mogging everyone so hard they're Googling "nunneries in my area," as ever.

 

[Gluten Crusader]

Kronii said that one of her family members is not a good person and last Friday that person did something that put Kronii and her family in danger. She mentioned that she almost called the cops.

Shit. This is much more serious than the drama shit were used to in this thread. Has anyone got an archive going?

 

[PassiveUnaggressive]

Koa is charming enough, but the pipkin and conversational skills were hurting the convo a bit today. I hope when they collab again, they choose a game that'll be a bit more effective as a collab game, maybe something that gives better interaction or something to rage about.

cough I might suggest Dead Rising 2 for a potential collab game with someone, especially if blind playthrough. While every game after went downhill, and the humor itself was less palatable to me versus the first game, it is a solid co-op (or not so co-op) experience. Plenty of room to talk about the game if there is a bit of dead air you want to fill, or just throw a table at the other player, make them talk instead. Bonus points for downing and feeding them multiple times, truly a gaslighting experience.

Also, Yura and Pikamee are doing a VR Phasmo collab. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xED6uaq0s1E

 

[Avokado]

本を書きたいので出版社さん連絡待ってます(՞•֊•՞)プロフのmailまでまでに~~~

DeepL:

I want to write a book and I'm waiting for publishers to contact me (՞-֊-՞) by mail in my profile~~~~

https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1516975703585030144

https://archive.md/J2KkI

discussion about it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/u6sycz/comment/i5knjlb

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

listening to girls talk about what dust and boogers are best to eat and discussing their belly buttons and the dirt therein

this is what i watch hololive for

Bro i thought you were talking about Pippa before the second line

It got even more... that.

Hololive girltalk, ladies and gentlemen.

yeah, they then fell down the rabbit hole of googling belly button pictures and the stuff people put in them, and then discussed if a mother eating the after birth is considered cannibalism and what else constitutes cannibalism.

Kronii refuses to reveal whether she has an inner or an outie

Probably an outie. Trust me bro...

Bro Pippa sounds so creepy with that low monotone voice asking things like, "what is the best hiding spot in your home if someone breaks in?" lmao

Pippa, you can't just ask people if they have a panic room...

I actually remember her! Vaguely. She pops up in Nagzz vtuber reactions once in a while. Truth be told I'm not sure that's entirely WORSE than pippa talking about "Making new holes is an action of love" but it's certainly on some sort of similar wavelength I suppose.

Mumei has motioned they do an unplanned future collab with no belly button cleaning before then. Reminder that within the last 2 or so days some people here were discussing how idol-like these women are lmao. I mean it's still FAR less common than typical VShoujo stuff or half the indies I click on, but still. Whew boi.

I mean, who knows what idols talk about when they're on that moonrune shit...

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Bowson currently suffering through Wyndham catacombs...

 

[LatentNinja]

Here you go, started grabbing it when someone said she was drinking since she tends to nuke those: https://gofile.io/d/k5SdrO

Ahhh, is that what keeps happening to her VoDs? I've definitely missed a few. Welp know what my background noise is for a while now.

Kronii said that one of her family members is not a good person and last Friday that person did something that put Kronii and her family in danger. She mentioned that she almost called the cops.

Well that sucks. Wasn't a note I expected this goofy ass night to end on. Guess we're all over the field today.

I mean, who knows what idols talk about when they're on that moonrune shit...

That's a fair point I suppose. While I don't think we ever got anything as wild or explicit openly. We knew a few liked Yaoi and/or BDSM stuff, and while technically not a talent I think A-chan liked Vore iirc so.. Yeah ya got me there.

 

[vestars20]

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DeepL:

https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1516975703585030144

https://archive.md/J2KkI

discussion about it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/u6sycz/comment/i5knjlb

This shit would be amazing - think about a book colab. Kson and Notlulu, anon sources from top talents, maybe even Ai. Mikeneko get on the ground floor of this. It's so opposite for Japan culture but if Kson wanted - roll it out

 

[Nene's Husband]

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DeepL:

https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1516975703585030144

https://archive.md/J2KkI

discussion about it on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/u6sycz/comment/i5knjlb

"Covering the black company: Tanigo's house of broken work laws"

In all seriousness though, this is most definetly not gonna happen, i don't see her as a person who has the willpower and mental stability to take on such an undertaking, i think she's just spouting off for attention like always.
Also anything that discloses company or personal details would be fucking taboo'd to hell in nipland AND sued to hell by Cover due to NDA breach, a suit they would very likely win in this case.

 

[ペンネーム]

lol fat

More cushion. She looks fun to hug. Ugh. Kill me.

 

[thhrang]

I'm sure we all remember the Jewish VTuber company Idol that we dunked on a while back when they first showed up, right?

Idol Corp is here

Well, it seems that nothing ever goes right for the Jews. Oy Vey! There seems to be some huge drama on the horizon for them.
Thread Link | Warosu

Spoiler: Part #2

YouTube Link | Catbox

Spoiler: Part #3

Google Form link (Archive) | Tweet (Archive)

Spoiler: Part #4

"Statement from Idol Corporation Regarding Debut in Israel" (Archive) | r/Israel post (Archive) | אביאל בסין Channel (Archive)

YouTube Link | Catbox

Spoiler: Part #5

Spoiler: Part #6

"Article 8" Link

Spoiler: Part #7

"Article 9" Link (Archive)

Spoiler: Part #8

Spoiler: Part #9

If you don't want to read all of that shit individually then here is some summarization.

TL;DR of post 1:
>Aviel Basin is a con artist who promises things and delivers a minuscule amount of that, while asking for more money.
>He currently runs the vtuber agency "idol" which he completely rebranded after running away with the money already once
>He shills his vtubers on here before they even debut full advertising mode
>You should care if you were planning to watch them because you will be supporting a scheme and getting no returns

TL;DR post 2
This is the unlisted video where Aviel promises literally scifi tier technology and a 100 million dollar production type stuff promising to make literal VR experiences where the viewer can walk in and clearly stating this is made for israel by israel

TL;DR post 3
>Idol tried suckering volunteers and managed to get a collab with nintendo over the pretense of it being a game like experience
>List of completely insane things he promised to deliver on to make funds

TL;DR post 4
>When the day of the debut went and gone, Aviel has decided to completely change the company's face. Now pretending to be a veteran idol company that is investing into countries with no vtubers.
>We have aviel's old channel where he talks about how he already made 75K$ in a few days hyping up the vtuber production and how he is truly passionate to make better content for israel.

TL;DR post 5
>Touching more on the video from his original channel. This video includes him saying he is interested in being charitable and as transparent as possible
>Conclusion of th first point. Asshole makes lots of money lying, then covers it all up

TL;DR post 6
>Idol hid all of their liability data, including proper ways of communication, the names of the people involved, any previous video that would give them away, and even the fact they were an israeli company.

TL;DR post 7
>They made giving them money easier, while making the accountable harder
>They clearly lied about the auditions because the 4 girls and their models have been switched out to 5 with art that is completely different.
>A facebook page shows the true inception of the project, november 22nd

TL;DR post 8
>The fact he fucked up with the money is fine, the fact he used that in a malicious way and tries to double down on it is a complete scumbag move and shows this is truly a scam

TL;DR post 9
We have a poster on this board who
>Shills a vtuber agency as a general including necrobumping and talking to himself in order to keep it a float when the agency does not even have any content to show for.
>Calls anyone who says the company is fishy retarded or crazy
>Knows information that is absolutely nowhere on the official site

Also, there is some sort of a weird discord that you have to give your phone number to join. It is pretty weird.

Oy Gevalt! This doesn't look very good!

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EDIT: Some extra information courtesy of an "Israeli lurker."

Israeli lurker here, made an account to add some info, since the 4chan thread is already archived, perhaps it'll get to OP
Not here to defend that Aviel guy, just to add to the picture
First of all, auditions did start in August:


Feel free to translate this using image translation, but the general gist is looking for 18+ female gamers who want to become "talents"
The original posts were deleted, this is a screencap from a private group posted in August, I happen to know that the original poster of this recruitment ad is Aviel's GF and business partner, and I also might be the anon they mentioned who said they started auditions in August

Now, Aviel seems to have a history of scummy business practices, a friend of mine from the local game-dev industry told me about an online game development course he tried to sell, which featured heavy over-promising to graduates in its ads, alongside straight-up lying by saying they can guarantee certain salaries, blowing up Aviel's non-existent experience in game dev, etc., a bunch of people from the industry got pissed and that made his partner, an actual dev, drop out of the course, he tried selling other types of courses using the same tactics before starting an advertisement company
Other game devs he tried working with on game projects prior said he has a tendency to over-scope game projects, a common mistake for clueless beginner-tier devs

My bottom line is:
TL;DR If he's scamming anyone, it's just his investors, not the viewers or the idols, and I believe all the blown-up promises of virtual, interactive worlds is just another case of him over-scoping due to having no idea what's he doing, backing off from those promises once he realized that the scope is Impossible.
He's not acting with malicious intent, he just doesn't have a clear idea of what he's doing (starting this business project, which barely has any target audience in the first place in Israel, is further proof of that)

Also, yeah, he's definitely the one starting the threads on /vt/ about the company, hoping for some free advertisement.
I still hope the idols themselves will have a decent experience before the project inevitably shuts down.

Well, tea was being spilled, can't expect me not to join in with info no one else would bother sharing
I'll try my best to refrain from any hand-rubbing and scheming, no promises though, shalom

Oh, he's definitely a piece of shit, what I'm saying is that it seems like he's genuinely trying to make this project happen to the best of his ability. (even if he's not extremely capable)
I don't like the guy, and I see him as a means-to-an-end of making this happen.

 

[NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos]

Did or can anybody archive Kronii's members stream? I'd like to watch it given things discussed.

 

[DelusionTree]

@thhrang
The company was promising too much shit when I first noticed them, having it all archived and laid out really makes it seem malicious.
Hopefully the CEO didn't actually sign anyone up because those contracts will probably be extremely exploitative.

Edit: Apparently the girls have twitter accounts and someone is posting on them.

 

[DICTATOR]

I'm sure we all remember the Jewish VTuber company Idol that we dunked on a while back when they first showed up, right?

Yeah, that’s too bad it’s fraudulent I had hoped Pippa could of done a collab in ESL with the jew fox by her same designer.
I’ve never seen vtuber creators talk about how they feel when they learn their designs die from the owner quitting or like Rushia getting banished to the shadow realm or in this case being a part of scam.

 

[reinigen]

Did or can anybody archive Kronii's members stream? I'd like to watch it given things discussed.

Still ongoing. I'd say check in a few hours and someone should have it uploaded either here or in /∞/ on /vt/

 

[paule]

I've seen people not get the Carl joke in Pippa's chat and I just want to bring some goddamn culture to this place:
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https://aqua-teen-hunger-force.fandom.com/wiki/Carl_Brutananadilewski

Ame and Gura also got some Carl-SC in the past. It's one hell of a story