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The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.”


Deliberations on controversial cases have in the past been fluid. Justices can and sometimes do change their votes as draft opinions circulate and major decisions can be subject to multiple drafts and vote-trading, sometimes until just days before a decision is unveiled. The court’s holding will not be final until it is published, likely in the next two months.
The immediate impact of the ruling as drafted in February would be to end a half-century guarantee of federal constitutional protection of abortion rights and allow each state to decide whether to restrict or ban abortion. It’s unclear if there have been subsequent changes to the draft.
No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.
The draft opinion offers an extraordinary window into the justices’ deliberations in one of the most consequential cases before the court in the last five decades. Some court-watchers predicted that the conservative majority would slice away at abortion rights without flatly overturning a 49-year-old precedent. The draft shows that the court is looking to reject Roe’s logic and legal protections.
Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
A person familiar with the court’s deliberations said that four of the other Republican-appointed justices – Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett – had voted with Alito in the conference held among the justices after hearing oral arguments in December, and that line-up remains unchanged as of this week.


The three Democratic-appointed justices – Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan – are working on one or more dissents, according to the person. How Chief Justice John Roberts will ultimately vote, and whether he will join an already written opinion or draft his own, is unclear.
The document, labeled as a first draft of the majority opinion, includes a notation that it was circulated among the justices on Feb. 10. If the Alito draft is adopted, it would rule in favor of Mississippi in the closely watched case over that state’s attempt to ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy.
A Supreme Court spokesperson declined to comment or make another representative of the court available to answer questions about the draft document.
POLITICO received a copy of the draft opinion from a person familiar with the court’s proceedings in the Mississippi case along with other details supporting the authenticity of the document. The draft opinion runs 98 pages, including a 31-page appendix of historical state abortion laws. The document is replete with citations to previous court decisions, books and other authorities, and includes 118 footnotes. The appearances and timing of this draft are consistent with court practice.
The disclosure of Alito’s draft majority opinion – a rare breach of Supreme Court secrecy and tradition around its deliberations – comes as all sides in the abortion debate are girding for the ruling. Speculation about the looming decision has been intense since the December oral arguments indicated a majority was inclined to support the Mississippi law.
Under longstanding court procedures, justices hold preliminary votes on cases shortly after argument and assign a member of the majority to write a draft of the court’s opinion. The draft is often amended in consultation with other justices, and in some cases the justices change their votes altogether, creating the possibility that the current alignment on Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization could change.
The chief justice typically assigns majority opinions when he is in the majority. When he is not, that decision is typically made by the most senior justice in the majority.

‘Exceptionally weak’​

A George W. Bush appointee who joined the court in 2006, Alito argues that the 1973 abortion rights ruling was an ill-conceived and deeply flawed decision that invented a right mentioned nowhere in the Constitution and unwisely sought to wrench the contentious issue away from the political branches of government.
Alito’s draft ruling would overturn a decision by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals that found the Mississippi law ran afoul of Supreme Court precedent by seeking to effectively ban abortions before viability.

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Roe’s “survey of history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect,” Alito continues, adding that its reasoning was “exceptionally weak,” and that the original decision has had “damaging consequences.”
“The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.
Alito approvingly quotes a broad range of critics of the Roe decision. He also points to liberal icons such as the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe, who at certain points in their careers took issue with the reasoning in Roe or its impact on the political process.
Alito’s skewering of Roe and the endorsement of at least four other justices for that unsparing critique is also a measure of the court’s rightward turn in recent decades. Roe was decided 7-2 in 1973, with five Republican appointees joining two justices nominated by Democratic presidents.
The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.
“The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft concludes. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”
The draft contains the type of caustic rhetorical flourishes Alito is known for and that has caused Roberts, his fellow Bush appointee, some discomfort in the past.
At times, Alito’s draft opinion takes an almost mocking tone as it skewers the majority opinion in Roe, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, a Richard Nixon appointee who died in 1999.
Roe expressed the ‘feel[ing]’ that the Fourteenth Amendment was the provision that did the work, but its message seemed to be that the abortion right could be found somewhere in the Constitution and that specifying its exact location was not of paramount importance,” Alito writes.
Alito declares that one of the central tenets of Roe, the “viability” distinction between fetuses not capable of living outside the womb and those which can, “makes no sense.”
In several passages, he describes doctors and nurses who terminate pregnancies as “abortionists.”
When Roberts voted with liberal jurists in 2020 to block a Louisiana law imposing heavier regulations on abortion clinics, his solo concurrence used the more neutral term “abortion providers.” In contrast, Justice Clarence Thomas used the word “abortionist” 25 times in a solo dissent in the same case.


Alito’s use of the phrase “egregiously wrong” to describe Roe echoes language Mississippi Solicitor General Scott Stewart used in December in defending his state’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The phrase was also contained in an opinion Kavanaugh wrote as part of a 2020 ruling that jury convictions in criminal cases must be unanimous.
In that opinion, Kavanaugh labeled two well-known Supreme Court decisions “egregiously wrong when decided”: the 1944 ruling upholding the detention of Japanese Americans during World War II, Korematsu v. United States, and the 1896 decision that blessed racial segregation under the rubric of “separate but equal,” Plessy v. Ferguson.
The high court has never formally overturned Korematsu, but did repudiate the decision in a 2018 ruling by Roberts that upheld then-President Donald Trump’s travel ban policy.

The legacy of Plessy v. Ferguson​

Plessy remained the law of the land for nearly six decades until the court overturned it with the Brown v. Board of Education school desegregation ruling in 1954.
Quoting Kavanaugh, Alito writes of Plessy: “It was ‘egregiously wrong,’ on the day it was decided.”
Alito’s draft opinion includes, in small type, a list of about two pages’ worth of decisions in which the justices overruled prior precedents – in many instances reaching results praised by liberals.
The implication that allowing states to outlaw abortion is on par with ending legal racial segregation has been hotly disputed. But the comparison underscores the conservative justices’ belief that Roe is so flawed that the justices should disregard their usual hesitations about overturning precedent and wholeheartedly renounce it.
Alito’s draft opinion ventures even further into this racially sensitive territory by observing in a footnote that some early proponents of abortion rights also had unsavory views in favor of eugenics.
“Some such supporters have been motivated by a desire to suppress the size of the African American population,” Alito writes. “It is beyond dispute that Roe has had that demographic effect. A highly disproportionate percentage of aborted fetuses are black.”
Alito writes that by raising the point he isn’t casting aspersions on anyone. “For our part, we do not question the motives of either those who have supported and those who have opposed laws restricting abortion,” he writes.
Alito also addresses concern about the impact the decision could have on public discourse. “We cannot allow our decisions to be affected by any extraneous influences such as concern about the public’s reaction to our work,” Alito writes. “We do not pretend to know how our political system or society will respond to today’s decision overruling Roe and Casey. And even if we could foresee what will happen, we would have no authority to let that knowledge influence our decision.”


In the main opinion in the 1992 Casey decision, Justices Sandra Day O’Connor, Anthony Kennedy and Davis Souter warned that the court would pay a “terrible price” for overruling Roe, despite criticism of the decision from some in the public and the legal community.
“While it has engendered disapproval, it has not been unworkable,” the three justices wrote then. “An entire generation has come of age free to assume Roe‘s concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions; no erosion of principle going to liberty or personal autonomy has left Roe‘s central holding a doctrinal remnant.”
When Dobbs was argued in December, Roberts seemed out of sync with the other conservative justices, as he has been in a number of cases including one challenging the Affordable Care Act.
At the argument session last fall, Roberts seemed to be searching for a way to uphold Mississippi’s 15-week ban without completely abandoning the Roe framework.
“Viability, it seems to me, doesn’t have anything to do with choice. But, if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Roberts asked during the arguments. “The thing that is at issue before us today is 15 weeks.”

Nods to conservative colleagues​

While Alito’s draft opinion doesn’t cater much to Roberts’ views, portions of it seem intended to address the specific interests of other justices. One passage argues that social attitudes toward out-of-wedlock pregnancies “have changed drastically” since the 1970s and that increased demand for adoption makes abortion less necessary.
Those points dovetail with issues that Barrett – a Trump appointee and the court’s newest member – raised at the December arguments. She suggested laws allowing people to surrender newborn babies on a no-questions-asked basis mean carrying a pregnancy to term doesn’t oblige one to engage in child rearing.
“Why don’t the safe haven laws take care of that problem?” asked Barrett, who adopted two of her seven children.
Much of Alito’s draft is devoted to arguing that widespread criminalization of abortion during the 19th and early 20th century belies the notion that a right to abortion is implied in the Constitution.
The conservative justice attached to his draft a 31-page appendix listing laws passed to criminalize abortion during that period. Alito claims “an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment…from the earliest days of the common law until 1973.”


“Until the latter part of the 20th century, there was no support in American law for a constitutional right to obtain an abortion. Zero. None. No state constitutional provision had recognized such a right,” Alito adds.
Alito’s draft argues that rights protected by the Constitution but not explicitly mentioned in it – so-called unenumerated rights – must be strongly rooted in U.S. history and tradition. That form of analysis seems at odds with several of the court’s recent decisions, including many of its rulings backing gay rights.
“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....”
Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion
Liberal justices seem likely to take issue with Alito’s assertion in the draft opinion that overturning Roe would not jeopardize other rights the courts have grounded in privacy, such as the right to contraception, to engage in private consensual sexual activity and to marry someone of the same sex.
“We emphasize that our decision concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right,” Alito writes. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.”
Alito’s draft opinion rejects the idea that abortion bans reflect the subjugation of women in American society. “Women are not without electoral or political power,” he writes. “The percentage of women who register to vote and cast ballots is consistently higher than the percentage of men who do so.”
The Supreme Court remains one of Washington’s most secretive institutions, priding itself on protecting the confidentiality of its internal deliberations.
“At the Supreme Court, those who know don’t talk, and those who talk don’t know,” Ginsburg was fond of saying.
That tight-lipped reputation has eroded somewhat in recent decades due to a series of books by law clerks, law professors and investigative journalists. Some of these authors clearly had access to draft opinions such as the one obtained by POLITICO, but their books emerged well after the cases in question were resolved.
The justices held their final arguments of the current term on Wednesday. The court has set a series of sessions over the next two months to release rulings in its still-unresolved cases, including the Mississippi abortion case.
 
I don't know where they're getting that if we overturn RvW that it will be hunting season on fags and racial segregation. But let's hope they're right.
It comes from a total lack of understanding of constitutional law. It's much, much harder to argue that Loving v. Virginia (interracial marriage) can be overturned rather than Roe, because the basis of Loving is the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. And Brown v. Board? Please. Even when Plessy v. Ferguson was written, Justice Harlan dissented that it was obviously wrong—and his dissent decades later was basically just reiterated in Brown.

Obergefell is easier, but still pretty hard because the fundamental right of marriage is long established in constitutional jurisprudence. Obergefell recognized it encompassed gay people, but there was no criminalization of gay marriage/civil unions when it was decided. Many, many states had already fully recognized what was, in effect, gay marriage. Gay marriage's only problem that puts it similar to Roe would be that homosexuality isn't protected under the Equal Protection Clause. In fact, the Supreme Court has explicitly said that homosexuality can't be a protected class subject to heightened scrutiny (like racial classifications, or gender classifications, alienage classifications, etc.) because homosexuality is basically imperceptible. It relies on self-identification that has to affirmatively be told to others, whereas a black person is obviously black from the day they are born, no matter what.

Maybe there's an argument based on Gorsuch's opinion in Bostock that discrimination on the basis of trangenderism or homosexuality is also discrimination on the basis of gender, because, for instance, a gay man would be discriminated against for acting in a way that a "normal" man would not. Hence, it is discriminating on the basis of what a certain sex is supposed to act like. But at least that's logical and a pretty straightforward interpretation of the Equal Protection Clause and Title VII, even if it extends way too much leeway to troons. Abortion was just created out of whole cloth.

I'm sure there are arguments to try and protect abortion through other parts of the Constitution, but leftists aren't even interested in that discussion. They just want what they want, and they'll burn, destroy, or murder their way to it. I have no doubt if the Supreme Court recognized abortion through the Equal Protection Clause attendant to sex discrimination against women, leftists would rejoice—even though it was done by affirming that only biological women can give birth, which is anathema to progressive postmodern social views. It's because they're retards and bad actors who won't even sit down for a discussion if it doesn't result in them getting their way. You can see it with the Farms' favorite Democrat slave in this thread—civilized discussion about jurisprudence has no merit or worth when it doesn't result in getting him what he wants.
 
Whatever they were personally used to. They felt it was basically a sin to stop using it and open themselves to the possibility of actually achieving pregnancy.

There are more stuffed up weirdos like this out there than we realize, thanks to school sex ed hatchet jobs.
So, she wanted a baby, but jizz grossed her out.
 
It has to do with midterms, but primarily it's just another distraction from more important issues like inflation, falling economy and lowering life standards.
I'm pretty sure losing access to abortion is a lowering of life standards but ok.
It conveniently got leaked right after war in Ukraine stopped being interesting for an average NPC. They have a short attention span, you know.
The war is old news. It's like day 100 and people stopped caring when oil prices rose in week 2. The war hasn't been hot news in like a month.
Although anybody with two brain cells can figure out why the timing of the leak is a tad too convenient,
The decisions is happening imminently and someone leaked it. I fail to see how this is proof of sinister meddling.
I have to give the credit where it's due: bringing up the old worn-out debate with a leak, is a master move.
As if the the "inflation, falling economy and lowering life standards" debates aren't also old worn-out debates that get brought up LITERALLY EVERY ELECTION.
There will be salt and sperging for weeks (not months, let's appreciate short attention span of NPCs) so they have something to foam about through the summer, but absolutely no change or actual decision will be made. This is brilliant!

I also believe that the Supreme Court did not in fact intend to overturn Roe & Wade, they might have discussed,
The brief from the Supreme Court says otherwise. You would know if you looked at it even a single time.
but probably decided against it due to political reasons.
?????????
If we want to go into political reasons, there are 5 conservative justices on the court who are very sympathetic to the pro life position. It seems like if we look into political reasons it seems like there is a much.

The point I wanted to make with this is that news stories sometimes happen with out it being some evil shadow conspiracy to cuck republicans. Republicans have been trying to send a case to the supreme court to get Roe overturned, as well as stacking the court with pro life justices. This was bound to happen. Acting like its a democrat conspiracy is just just /poltard thinking.
 
You write like a troon
You have an anime avatar and are a right-winger with a join date of a few months ago, which means you are likely suffer from crippling autism and came from /pol/, which means you have a fetish for obese, elderly men which is why you love Republicans. Sorry that this place isn't the alt-right manlet hugbox you were promised it was
 
Oh good I was hoping they would double down on this hypocrisy because I have a feeling it plays particularly poorly with normies.


Kelsey Feral.

She actually looks just like a girl I knew in high school. She was dating a guy from a D-list grunge band (who was probably 10+ years older) and called herself bisexual for edge points. She was also very into abortion activism. It's kind of quaint, really, to see that they're still making this model of slattern.
It's a tried and tested model that's been around for ages. They've added nose rings and unnaturally coloured hair for the pizzazz, but that type has always been around.
 
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I'm pretty sure losing access to abortion is a lowering of life standards but ok.
Damn it sure is weird how we managed to climb our way up to being the most prosperous nation in history while infanticide wasn't a nationally protected thing and have been on a fuckin downhill slide ever since it got passed and the nuclear family began eroding.
 
I don't know where they're getting that if we overturn RvW that it will be hunting season on fags and racial segregation.
Intersectionality at work.

If your opponent is against "A", and you like "A"? Well, obviously, they're against EVERYTHING ELSE YOU LIKE WITHOUT EXCEPTION!
 
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Yeah and that was 80 years ago. Get with the times. I know you GOP lovers want to bring us back to the 1700s but most people don't want that. The future is now, old man.
And Slavery ended 150 years ago, yet you're side still seems to think we live in the antebellum south

I love how ignorant someone from the other side that's the side of supposed intellectual superiority can be. You're really not qualified to talk about the law son, don't try it
Sorry to ruin your fantasy of me being a troon that dominates you and your fellow alt-right manlets, but I am a dude.
So are all the other troons.
 
And Slavery ended 150 years ago, yet you're side still seems to think we live in the antebellum south

I love how ignorant someone from the other side that's the side of supposed intellectual superiority can be. You're really not qualified to talk about the law son, don't try it
Lol your side is the one that celebrates black people dying and is full of people wanting to get rid of federal protection for interracial marriage. Ironic that you, of all people, would say someone isn't qualified to talk about the law. You assured me that the election would be overturned in the courts and that I was wrong. Turns out I was right about 60 times when the obese, elderly conman you want to have sex with lost all but 2 of his post-election lawsuits. But yeah you're totally a super real lawyer and not LARPing as one on the internet.
So are all the other troons.
It's cool that you have a fetish for troons but that ain't my thing man.

I don't know where they're getting that if we overturn RvW that it will be hunting season on fags and racial segregation. But let's hope they're right.
An Indiana senator wants to overturn federal protection for interracial marriage and this will probably lead to you Republicans trying to overturn gay marriage. You guys are already working on birth control in Louisiana, too. No idea why you retards want to bring us back to the 1700s
 
Lol your side is the one that celebrates black people dying and is full of people wanting to get rid of federal protection for interracial marriage. Ironic that you, of all people, would say someone isn't qualified to talk about the law. You assured me that the election would be overturned in the courts and that I was wrong. Turns out I was right about 60 times when the obese, elderly conman you want to have sex with lost all but 2 of his post-election lawsuits. But yeah you're totally a super real lawyer and not LARPing as one on the internet.
I never said it would be overturned, because you can never make a 100% guarantee of any verdict. What I said was that there was enough factual evidence where if the courts hadn't decided to railroad the complaints on procedural bullshit technicalities it had a chance at prevailing in court. I'm not going to do myself or Pl, so you can believe what you want to believe while tossing the same strawman you always do.

It's cool that you have a fetish for troons but that ain't my thing man.
And I don't have a fetish for being Jewish, it just is I am.
An Indiana senator wants to overturn federal protection for interracial marriage and this will probably lead to you Republicans trying to overturn gay marriage, although you'd probably be all for that
Please continue to present the same hackneyed strawman while you desperately wait for your HRT to arrive.
 
It comes from a total lack of understanding of constitutional law. It's much, much harder to argue that Loving v. Virginia (interracial marriage) can be overturned rather than Roe, because the basis of Loving is the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. And Brown v. Board? Please. Even when Plessy v. Ferguson was written, Justice Harlan dissented that it was obviously wrong—and his dissent decades later was basically just reiterated in Brown.

The left's understanding of constitutional law is that good things are constitutional, and bad things are unconstitutional.
 
I never said it would be overturned, because you can never make a 100% guarantee of any verdict. What I said was that there was enough factual evidence where if the courts hadn't decided to railroad the complaints on procedural bullshit technicalities it had a chance at prevailing in court. I'm not going to do myself or Pl, so you can believe what you want to believe while tossing the same strawman you always do.
Lol you sure did say that. It's cute how you deny it though to try and keep your LARP up though. But yeah, you're just totally a real law expert even though anyone with an IQ above room temperature knew those lawsuits were going no where. It's also cute how you still think there was actual evidence for election fraud, even though every "evidence" you Trump simps have come up with was easily debunked by even an elementary understanding of how elections work. Totally real lawyer here, folks!
And I don't have a fetish for being Jewish, it just is I am.

Please continue to present the same hackneyed strawman while you desperately wait for your HRT to arrive.
I thought your fetish was just for obese elderly men, which is why you love the GOP, although I guess you have a fetish for troons dominating you in debates as well. Sorry but I am not a troon, am not elderly and am not obese, so I am not your type.
 
If the government decides you have no bodily autonomy it won't end with abortion. It'll start with it plucking your organs out of your body and your blood, and the courts will support the mandates.
You have bodily autonomy for those issues enshrined by actual legislation, no need to go into a parade of horribles. Roe is an issue because it's not based on the constitution, but on some supposed eternal set of fundamental rights that can't be named and are invoked whenever a panel of nine unelected elites decide they want to justify a new right. Obergefell is just as similarly a bad decision because it rests in fundamentally extraconstitutional grounds.

Lol you sure did say that. It's cute how you deny it though to try and keep your LARP up though. But yeah, you're just totally a real law expert even though anyone with an IQ above room temperature knew those lawsuits were going no where. It's also cute how you still think there was actual evidence for election fraud, even though every "evidence" you Trump simps have come up with was easily debunked by even an elementary understanding of how elections work. Totally real lawyer here, folks!
You keep saying that as if that somehow would will it into being true, but this isn't one of your capeshit movies you can fap to where that's actually the case. Just because your side calls it disinformation doesn't mean it's automatically deboonked.

I thought your fetish was just for obese elderly men, which is why you love the GOP, although I guess you have a fetish for troons dominating you in debates as well. Sorry but I am not a troon, am not elderly and am not obese, so I am not your type.
The troon cries out in denial every time. sure buddy, you're not a troon, you're a real woman just like you keep telling yourself.
 
You keep saying that as if that somehow would will it into being true, but this isn't one of your capeshit movies you can fap to where that's actually the case. Just because your side calls it disinformation doesn't mean it's automatically deboonked.
Lol maybe if you retards could come up with actual evidence that wasn't explained by an elementary understanding of how elections work people would maybe believe you. Instead you double down on the lies of the obese, elderly conman you want to have sex with by LARPing as a lawyer, too. You can probably fool your fellow elderly man fetishists, as you guys aren't known for being smart, but you won't fool the rest of us.
I get it, you're an impressionable spaz who gets his worldview from /pol/, so you believe everything posted there. However, real lawyers, election officials and judges all disagreed with you. They know a bit more about the law than some uneducated retard who pretends to be a lawyer but gets his legal information from Tucker Carlson and /pol/
The troon cries out in denial every time. sure buddy, you're not a troon, you're a real woman just like you keep telling yourself.
You have weird fetishes, man. It's cool and all but stop flaunting them to us.
 
Hmmm.... he's here, isn't he?
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