Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 249 10.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

  • Total voters
    2,360
Status
Not open for further replies.
Many European countries have similar language quota laws.
They're similar only because they are laws on language. Promotion and preservation are different from suppression. Historically, the two look very different. And Europe has many instances of language suppression to know the difference.
I would say also that it's fair to argue there is a justified concern that suppressing a language risks severing its speakers from their cultural heritage. Just because it serves purposes in propaganda manoeuvring also doesn't mean the concern itself isn't valid.
 
Last edited:

This tranny sure glows hard for Ukraine.

MSNBC Expert Analyst Shares Video Game Footage of Arma 3 and claims its from the Ukrainian front, he claimed it was a display of strength from Ukraine’s air defense. It’s actually footage from a video game.

FS6PZBdWAAIb5Jv.jpg


Bonus Russian Social Media Pics


FS4J41RWYAEGV9m.jpgFS49aYZXsAMuBB8.jpg

Polish Tanks finally made it to the frontline



Some Drones showing Azovs



Russians claim seven Americans killed so far in Ukraine




Allegedly Eric Olsen

FS2RuY4XEAE7rHL.jpg
 
Last edited:
If you were going to argue that Azov guys wanted the death and suffering of Russian speakers I'd give that a pass, but this is just the opposite of the "Putin is literally Hitler" narrative.
Even the Venice comission, which criticized the implementation of the Ukrainian lanuage laws, admitted that they recognized the necessity to strengthen the Ukrainian language. Why?
Russian-language media is produced by pro-Russian agents like Viktor Medvedchuk in Ukraine. And what a surprise, pro-Russian Ukrainian channels were seen as a greater threat to Ukraine than Russian propaganda outlets as they had a higher credibility. Imposing a quota of Ukrainian language on Ukrainian media is legitimately a 200 IQ move. Forcing pro-Russian propaganda to be 90% spoken in Ukrainian either forces Russian propaganda to go back to less credible media, or that Russian propaganda is broadcast in Ukrainian which actually promotes the use of Ukrainian language. That sounds fair. You can broadcast propaganda motherfucker, but you use our language and thus help sever the connection between Ukraine and Russia. You actually get forced to shoot yourself in the foot, and all we did was tell you which kind of shotgun ammo you could use. You aim and you pull the trigger. That's what Ukraine told Russia. And that's why Russia made such a big deal out of it, they were afraid of having to either sever that language connection or lose ground in the propaganda war. Russian speakers in Ukraine could speak to each other in Russian. But Russians had to speak to Ukrainian Russian speakers in Ukrainian. It's beautiful. Simple.
Many European countries have similar language quota laws. For example radio is a big issue, otherwise 99% of music would be American. Quotas of 30, 40 or 50% native language music on radio are not unheard of. These are just to keep native artists relevant. Ukraine actually did this as a survival mechanism against Russia's hybrid warfare.
Why fight the Donbass when they seceded then? There was no "warfare" before certain foreign elements ingratiated themselves with Ukrainian oligarchs. The far right Ukrainians are literally demanding genocide, by the actually UN and dictionary definition. Like @LikeRivenIRL said, there's a big difference between promotion/preservation and suppression/eradication.
 
It sounds like autistic faggotry to me. Governments shouldn't be in the business of deciding what TV news channels you can watch. If hohols weren't faggots who are obsessed with controlling other people, maybe the war would've been avoided.
"Government bad" when Ukraine.
Not a single mention of Russian government actions, though. I agree that governments shouldn't be in the business of deciding what TV channels I can watch. I also think that governments shouldn't be arming my neighbors and telling them to fight me.
They're similar only because they are laws on language. Promotion and preservation are different from suppression. Historically, the two look very different. And European has many instances of language suppression to know the difference.
I would say also that it's fair to argue there is a justified concern that suppressing a language risks severing its speakers from their cultural heritage. Just because it serves purposes in propaganda manoeuvring also doesn't mean the concern itself isn't valid.
Countries not being invaded wanting more monies for their artists vs a country that was invaded and is being blasted with enemy propaganda. Hmmm. Is the French language endangered? Is Spanish endangered?
Regardless, the language wasn't being suppressed. Russian speakers were free to use Russian, there was simply a requirement to:
- conduct official government business in Ukrainian
- 90% of TV in Ukrainian
- 50% of print media in Ukrainian
- Store clerks and whatnot greet customers in Ukrainian and continue in Russian if both parties are more comfortable
Why fight the Donbass when they seceded then? There was no "warfare" before certain foreign elements ingratiated themselves with Ukrainian oligarchs. The far right Ukrainians are literally demanding genocide, by the actually UN and dictionary definition. Like @LikeRivenIRL said, there's a big difference between promotion/preservation and suppression/eradication.
There was no warfare without foreign elements. Sure. The problem is, those foreign elements are Russian. Am I going to have to mention yet again that a Russian surface to air missile that was supposed to be stationed in Kursk killed 298 people when it was used to shoot down an airliner?
You weren't talking about the far right. That's why I prefaced my post the way I did.
It's not genocide by UN definition. Just like the US one day waking up and deciding that government buildings shouldn't conduct business in the Spanish language isn't a genocide of Latin Americans or Spanish people.
 
I mean, who would Russia possibly exchange for them?
I did not hear about any generals hold up in Ukrainian captivity and Medvedchuk seemingly was let loose by Russians. Anything less than some kind of general or at least exchange 5 to 1 would probably lead to an open revolt in DPR. They probably would shoot them themselves if order for exchange would be given. It's even dropping the fact that one of the reasons for this invasion is to liquidate AZOV one way or the other.
Than again, it's not like cuckining can't happen and the whole thing might be prearranged, with Russian glowniggers watching day and night so no harm would be done to our Aryan Warriors, Saviors of EVROPA. Would be pretty big L for Russians, in my book, if they got exchanged.
There is that Viktor Bout fellow probably that they might ask for lol.
 
Regardless, the language wasn't being suppressed.
That's not how the locals see it:


Here's those nice Hohols engaging in a cultural exchange with a middle aged female veterinarian:

In protest against the regulations that she said amounted to "discrimination," the 47-year-old began offering 50-percent discounts to her Russian-speaking clients.

This is what she believes spurred the perpetrators of a graffiti attack on her clinic, which was defaced in late January with scrawls of black coffins and a warning of "Death to the enemies".
 
Countries not being invaded wanting more monies for their artists vs a country that was invaded and is being blasted with enemy propaganda. Hmmm. Is the French language endangered? Is Spanish endangered?
Regardless, the language wasn't being suppressed. Russian speakers were free to use Russian, there was simply a requirement to:
- conduct official government business in Ukrainian
- 90% of TV in Ukrainian
- 50% of print media in Ukrainian
- Store clerks and whatnot greet customers in Ukrainian and continue in Russian if both parties are more comfortable
If Ukraine were so desperate to get into the EU then they should have taken a leaf out of the books of some of its members in how they treat minority languages. This is not the way.
 
There's some reports about a failed Ukrainian attack with two mechanized battalions in the Zaporizhzhia oblast. The Russian's take about the attack (take it with a huge grain of salt, it's the Russian MOD) :

1652798266641.png

Of course, this will be memoryholed by the western whores, just like the failed attack on Snake island

Oh, and btw, Azovstal never surrendered, they were "evacuated" and they "finished their military operations", trust me bro.
 
Russians claim seven Americans killed so far in Ukraine


View attachment 3291806

I am confused on the passport card ending up in that shithole, since when I remember applying for passport renewal, iirc a card can't be used for international travel and seems I am right lol.


Foreign minister of Luxemburg basically stated that the roaches don't give a flying fuck about the 20 YPG terrorists in Sweden. (imagine that)

Erdogan want's F16s or F35s plus the patriot system as a replacement for the S400. Also he want's a green light from Blinken to attack the YPG in Syria.

Well clever. Russian backed forces in Syria are busy due to the Ukraine war so he can focus on attacking the Kurdish boogeyman to distract from his skyhigh inflation rate in the next elections.

Anyways it would be political suicide to just accept Sweden and Finland after the US treated him like shit over the last 5 years. The way he pulls it off is just a classic roach move.

Turks really have an obsession with killing Kurds.
 
Who is Marjorie Taylor Greene and why is she saying sending aid to Ukraine is a money laundering scheme?

Well she makes good points time to time but overall is like the equivalent of some Russian politcian in the Duma, like that one guy who died recently but not to that degree, who wants Putin to nuke the Eternal Anglo in a first strike and invade Poland unironically to destroy Nazism or some crazy lolcow shit.

She is a strong supporter of Donald Trump and the leftists and retarded liberals are strangely obsessed with keeping her out of Congress through any means possible, when she pretty much has little to no power in the GOP other than being a loudmouth like AOC is for the Democrats.
 
Am I going to have to mention yet again that a Russian surface to air missile that was supposed to be stationed in Kursk killed 298 people when it was used to shoot down an airliner?
So they say. Ukraine used the exact same SA-11 Gadfly surface to air missiles. Would be highly unfortunate for the west if the investigation concluded that the regime you just helped install ended up shooting down an airliner

22.png
 
There was no warfare without foreign elements. Sure. The problem is, those foreign elements are Russian. Am I going to have to mention yet again that a Russian surface to air missile that was supposed to be stationed in Kursk killed 298 people when it was used to shoot down an airliner?
You weren't talking about the far right. That's why I prefaced my post the way I did.
It's not genocide by UN definition. Just like the US one day waking up and deciding that government buildings shouldn't conduct business in the Spanish language isn't a genocide of Latin Americans or Spanish people.
Except that by a 19th century treaty the US is obligated to do just that, conduct government business in Spanish if asked.

I believe indiscriminate shelling of the Donbass without regard for civilians, when still part of Ukraine, for eight years, isn't considered Ukraine merely promoting its language and culture, which are so close that each can understand the other, unlike, say German/Dutch or German/English, despite being closely related as well.
 
Last edited:
She’s a Trump Republican, therefore she is trying to assist Russia.

WTF, I love MTG now.



Those pullups were for a man like Putin, no wonder Crossfit disowned her for not trying to impress Biden instead.



Well, yes, but it feels strange to hear an American politician say that out loud and not #standonacrane

Rand Paul blocked gibs to Ukraine for a couple of days and it was fun watching the twitter hohols seethe against him lol when that is what he usually does for almost every foreign welfare payout.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back