Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
Atlas is still well within normal range for talking. As others have pointed out, it's not surprising he's a bit slow with it due to how little his parents seem to actually talk to him. Yes he's hearing them talk, and the TV, the therapists and whoever else he may encounter, but for a learning baby it's not enough. On the same token, it's not surprising that he was advanced in walking due to effectively being in pt hab his whole life, since narc mom has always enjoyed thrusting him into the middle of pt so that they can act as his babysitter.

But for the curious, I just did some surface level research, and as long as he was producing single syllables by 10 months and (especially) didn't lose the ability to babble once he started, he's in the clear. And to be honest, we don't know how far along he is (or isn't) with talking given how little his mom shows or cares about him. I mean, look at how she reacted to his learning how to walk. Although we might hear about it when he learns how to say "Luna". Hell, maybe narc mom is waiting for his first "Wuna" so that she can pretend it was his first word regardless if it was or not.
He also doesn't have an older sibling who can model language through interaction with him. I'm not surprised he's just beginning to talk now.

He might end up being one of those kids who goes from not talking at all to speaking in full sentences, simply because nobody ever talks to him enough to notice his language development or suss out his toddler babble. All of a sudden, he'll blurt out a full, clear sentence and they'll be like, "Oh wow, hey, that other kid we have is talking. When did that happen?"
 
He also doesn't have an older sibling who can model language through interaction with him. I'm not surprised he's just beginning to talk now.

He might end up being one of those kids who goes from not talking at all to speaking in full sentences, simply because nobody ever talks to him enough to notice his language development or suss out his toddler babble. All of a sudden, he'll blurt out a full, clear sentence and they'll be like, "Oh wow, hey, that other kid we have is talking. When did that happen?"
I doubt Robyn and Glenn would even notice then. He’s supposed to be able to talk, so it’s not “special.”
 
He gets positive reinforcement for kissing Luna, and probably a neutral response for doing anything age appropriate. Not one bit of fanfare about his early walking.

I don't think his speech is late yet, but Robyn talks to him through the camera. He appears to know where the lens is, and looks at that, as opposed to his mother's face when she's talking.

He's aware that the camera is what needs to be looked at and performed for. Just like Mom does.


He's going to be one alienated kid, because this won't stop with Luna's death. Dare I say he'll be at risk for addiction or being groomed by someone who pays attention.
Such a good comment about atlas being conditioned with the camera.
This reminds me of the fundie Rodrigues family with 14 kids all jammed together in 2 bedrooms, their mom Jill parents the same way with the phone camera. The kids have been conditioned since birth that when the camera is pointed at them they better smile and perform Or Else. It’s hostage video quality entertainment.
I wonder though what Atlas associates breastfeeding with Mama eyefucking herself on camera? Sometimes he’s kinda passed out, other times he’s clearly struggling to get away.
How would you guys feel if your mom posted videos constantly of you (and her being inappropriate) like that, and you found out when you were older?
 
Such a good comment about atlas being conditioned with the camera.
This reminds me of the fundie Rodrigues family with 14 kids all jammed together in 2 bedrooms, their mom Jill parents the same way with the phone camera. The kids have been conditioned since birth that when the camera is pointed at them they better smile and perform Or Else. It’s hostage video quality entertainment.
I wonder though what Atlas associates breastfeeding with Mama eyefucking herself on camera? Sometimes he’s kinda passed out, other times he’s clearly struggling to get away.
How would you guys feel if your mom posted videos constantly of you (and her being inappropriate) like that, and you found out when you were older?
Best case 🌈 scenario? Maybe he'll feel angry but vindicated. Robyn's type of syrupy passive-aggressive behavior has a way of gaslighting little kids and making them blame themselves for stuff. But this whole thread is evidence that yes, it's her, it's real, it's always been her, not him.
Damn now I'm bummed, sorry fam
 
You know how during high school graduations they will do a slideshow where the parents will pick their favorite baby photos to show of their graduate? I bet Robyn will pick photos of her eyefucking the camera with her tits out, to project on a big screen in front of all of his peers 17 years from now.
Hopefully by then he will have run away and found a better family.
 
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You know how during high school graduations they will do a slideshow where the parents will pick their favorite baby photos to show of their graduate? I bet Robyn will pick photos of her eyefucking the camera with her tits out, to project on a big screen in front of all of his peers 17 years from now.
You’re being very optimistic in thinking that Atlas will go to school with peers.
 
They'll probably make Atlas's first word be "Luna" or "sissy", let's not kid ourselves here.
Honestly I'm expecting them to pretend it's his first word and that narc mom is only waiting for him to actually say it so she can force him to say it on camera.
You’re being very optimistic in thinking that Atlas will go to school with peers.
Kind of a toss up, but much like how narc mom has realized how much functioning kids actually suck, she's not going to like Atlas being at home all day "learning" when she wants to watch her trashy shows and play on her phone. I wholly expect her to get him a bullshit vaccine exception and eagerly start shoving him out the door once he's old enough to start Kindergarten (for her, it'll preferably be an all-day one so he'll be out of the house from 8-3 on day one instead of waiting all the way to first grade).
 
She’s really bought into this dumb pyramid scheme hook, line and sinker. Too bad she’s on the bottom of this pyramid and is flushing away money she can’t afford.

I love how they are trying to rationalize greed into this new age energy and removing wounded masculine mindset about money scarcity. She is so incredibly stupid it’s no surprise she would fall for a MLM that uses new age retard lingo.
 
You’re being very optimistic in thinking that Atlas will go to school with peers.
Or that even if he does, he'll graduate. Last fall, out of curiosity, I was checking out the elementary schools closest to them on Great Schools and it's about what I thought. The BEST had a like 36% proficiency rate for literacy. Math and science? Honestly Robyn's woo couldn't be any worse for him than what those test scores showed. He's also going to have to deal with harrassment and physical assaults for being half-white. Plus with Glenn already being a huge pothead, I could see Atlas starting out with pot at 11/12, getting into harder drugs in his early teens and dropping out of school at 16. Shit schools + shit parents usually doesn't translate to academic success.
 
I love how they are trying to rationalize greed into this new age energy and removing wounded masculine mindset about money scarcity. She is so incredibly stupid it’s no surprise she would fall for a MLM that uses new age retard lingo.

It also sets up the MLM to blame anyone not succeeding with "you don't have the correct mindset... you are not ready to receive money/blessings".

How many of those women joined so they could provide some "extra" money to supplement their Big Daddy's income. In other words, they are dependent on that masculine scarcity model for their existence.

Gross and predatory. Smile, Robyn!
 
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