Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Ophelia]

Also very disturbing, seeing how Chris has far more "libertine" views on sexuality.

He’s always had disturbing views on sexuality.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

He’s always had disturbing views on sexuality.

Doesn't he think sex alone is the same thing as love?

 

[Ophelia]

Doesn't he think sex alone is the same thing as love?

I thank the gods I can’t read his mind, so I don’t know. Based on following him for years, I personally don’t think he comprehends “love” like the average person does. I think he had pure childlike affection for his father and his dog and honestly missed them when they died. He loved them (to the best of his simpleminded abilities) without lusting after them. I’d like to think he loved Barb independently of lust at some point in his adult life. But above all else he loves himself, and if almighty Chris wants sex, that’s all that matters.

 

[A-№1]

He’s always had disturbing views on everything.

Fixed that for you.

Chris lives in a cartoon world, and when you look at cartoons closely, you see they're actually pretty fucked up (even before Chris gets to them).

Doesn't he think sex alone is the same thing as love?

Think?

Chris' concept of love is even worse than his understanding of sex. It's framed entirely around himself. Put simply, Chris loves himself and wants other people to love him too, but the idea of him actually loving other people is utterly incomprehensible to him. At best he wants other people to make himself happy and thinks that's "love".

I’d like to think he loved Barb independently of lust at some point in his adult life.

It seems to me he was using Barb more as a masturbation aid more than actually lusting for her, and that is so, so much worse. Chris fucked Barb not so much because he lusted after her (much less loved her), but simply because she was readily available right down the hall and couldn't stop him.

tl;dr: As awful as you might think Chris is, he's actually far, far worse.

 

[Saint Agustin]

Fixed that for you.

Chris lives in a cartoon world, and when you look at cartoons closely, you see they're actually pretty fucked up (even before Chris gets to them).




Think?

Chris' concept of love is even worse than his understanding of sex. It's framed entirely around himself. Put simply, Chris loves himself and wants other people to love him too, but the idea of him actually loving other people is utterly incomprehensible to him. At best he wants other people to make himself happy and thinks that's "love".




It seems to me he was using Barb more as a masturbation aid more than actually lusting for her, and that is so, so much worse. Chris fucked Barb not so much because he lusted after her (much less loved her), but simply because she was readily available right down the hall and couldn't stop him.

tl;dr: As awful as you might think Chris is, he's actually far, far worse.

I do wonder sometimes what would have happened if Megan ever game him romantic attention and they became a couple. I'm pretty sure she would have tard wrangled him hard, and probably, just probably, Chris would have never needed to fuck Barb or even troon out.

 

[A-№1]

I do wonder sometimes what would have happened if Megan ever game him romantic attention and they became a couple.

I would never wish that upon her. Or anyone.

I'm pretty sure she would have tard wrangled him hard,

On the contrary, Chris would only push boundaries until she kicked him to the curb.

Megan was normal. Normal people don't want to have anything more to do with Chris than absolutely necessary. It wasn't her fault Chris latched onto her.

Even the most weenish of weens know better than to actually couple up with Chris to tard wrangle him.

Chris would have never needed to fuck Barb

The fuck?

Chris NEVER needed to fuck Barb.

There are needs and there are wants. Fucking his elderly mother was never something Chris needed.

 

[Ophelia]

I do wonder sometimes what would have happened if Megan ever game him romantic attention and they became a couple. I'm pretty sure she would have tard wrangled him hard, and probably, just probably, Chris would have never needed to fuck Barb or even troon out.

Romantic attention and coupling does not fix people. She’d have got tired of him taking advantage of her and left him. Jerry Brudos and Dennis Rader had wives and all the sex they wanted. It didn’t fix them.

 

[A-№1]

She’d have got tired of him taking advantage of her and left him.

This.

Which is pretty much what she did. Chris drew that insane picture of them and then, even worse, tried to explain it (using Chris Logic). That was the final straw. She got tired of him and left him. Good for her. Fortunately for her it was before anything even started (assuming anything ever would have, which it wouldn't).

Jerry Brudos and Dennis Rader had wives and all the sex they wanted. It didn’t fix them.

While the quantity might have been there, I'm not sure it was the exact kind of sex they actually wanted. Those two had some strange hobbies. I mean you don't go out and have sex with dead bodies¹ if you're getting what you want at home, no matter how much of it you're getting.
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¹ Where does that begin to be fun?

 

[Slurgle]

I listened to the second part, and the host tries so hard to act as if Chris doesn't know any better and was manipulated into saying he raped his mom, and making sure he stands out for not misgendering Chris around his tranny guest. Robert Evans is a chaser, so I'm not surprised he handled it this way after pulling no punches about terrible people in his other episodes.

It definitely was an unusual series. As you say, Robert mentioned quite a few times that Chris is a bad person, but always was quick to preempt/ follow up with an explanation blaming an external factor (often, 4chan or the Farms). It definitely felt like he was walking on eggshells.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

when you look at cartoons closely, you see they're actually pretty fucked up

how so?

Chris' concept of love is even worse than his understanding of sex. It's framed entirely around himself.

Chris is pretty much locked in his own mind and is unable to truly see the existence of other minds because extreme autism or ego.

(living the Life of Fail with Borb in 14 BLC certainly didn't help)

 

[Kirby]

I do wonder sometimes what would have happened if Megan ever game him romantic attention and they became a couple. I'm pretty sure she would have tard wrangled him hard, and probably, just probably, Chris would have never needed to fuck Barb or even troon out.

in chris's mind megan would be the one who needed to change for him. he wanted a "sweetheart to build from the ground up" so theres no way he would have been willing to accept that he was the person in the relationship that needed to change.

realistically if they were in a relationship chris would force himself on megan and try to gaslight her into giving into his desires. of course because megan has a perfectly functioning mind and is physically capable of resisting this scenario would never happen.

the trooning out is more complicated. chris is very easy to manipulate and he always had a disposition to wanting to be a woman. once bob was dying chris started associating with a bunch of enablers who convinced him that he could become a lesbian. bob was realistically the only one who could have stopped it but at that point he was dying and there was nothing he could do. once chris latches onto something he can't help himself so this would have happened one way or another. it is just a matter of planting the seed in his head and letting it grow.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

"sweetheart to build from the ground up"

"Sweetheart from the Ground-Up" seems to be CWCish for a girl groomed to be "Barb 2" who serves him unquestioningly.

 

[Chazzed Up]

in chris's mind megan would be the one who needed to change for him. he wanted a "sweetheart to build from the ground up" so theres no way he would have been willing to accept that he was the person in the relationship that needed to change.

Maybe I am retarded but I thought the "from the ground up" part was that he thought the process would go that they were friends and then became lovers, like he thought he was with Megan. I don't really recall Chris ever talking about wanting to change or mold a girlfriend into being a certain way. He seems like he considers (or considered, past tense at this point) anyone who would tolerate and care for him to be acceptable. Current day Chris though I could see having a list of demands that his significant other would have to comply with, which is ironic since nowadays he is even less worthy of being the one to make demands in a relationship.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

the trooning out is more complicated. chris is very easy to manipulate and he always had a disposition to wanting to be a woman. once bob was dying chris started associating with a bunch of enablers who convinced him that he could become a lesbian. bob was realistically the only one who could have stopped it but at that point he was dying and there was nothing he could do. once chris latches onto something he can't help himself so this would have happened one way or another. it is just a matter of planting the seed in his head and letting it grow.

The trooning out thing seems to be a lot to do with his autism, he doesn’t seem unique in not really having a sense of self before and not liking stereotypical concepts of masculinity such as work, ’brutish violence’ and sports, much prefering what he saw in female characters in anime, cartoons as well as general stereotypical views of women.

On that topic - It’s a bit of a chicken or egg thing but I wonder how influential modern cartoons have been with autistic men like Chris trooning out, having in the old days male characters play the fun loving and powerful hero but in recent years there’s an increase in women characters taking up that role where they even get the pretty girl and male characters are made more inept and sidelined.

Doesn't he think sex alone is the same thing as love?

I think he eventually got over that once he got laid by a hooker and realised he wasn’t satisfied but Chris still doesn’t really comprehend love since he has no/little theory of mind and only considers his wants and needs.

 

[A-№1]

how so?

Shotguns straight to the face. Rapist skunks. Crossdressing rabbits. Sociopathic tweety birds. Blackface fucking everywhere along with general racism. Torture. Cannibalism. You name it.

And that's just Warner Brothers.

I've never seen any of those pony cartoons, but they have to be REALLY fucked up given their audience.

Cartoons get away with weird ass shit you can't do in live action because people don't look too closely because everyone knows they aren't real. Everyone except for Chris.

in recent years there’s an increase in women characters taking up that role while often even getting the pretty girl while men are made more inept and sidelined.

They never learn the lesson of SheRa.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

cartoons

Cartoons get away with weird ass shit you can't do in live action because people don't look too closely because everyone knows they aren't real.

Chris pretty much became a cartoon character IRL. Not just in the way he talks and acts, but even his body is like a caricature.

 

[A-№1]

Chris pretty much became a cartoon character IRL. Not just in the way he talks and acts, but even his body is like a caricature.

Oh he wants to be. He soooo wants to be. He's tried so very hard at it.

But unfortunately he lives in the real world, so it's never going to actually happen. I suspect he's going to learn that the hard way come August. Except he doesn't learn.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Oh he wants to be.

Chris wants to be some kind of pony goddess who is somehow the "good guy" despite that obese ego and his lack of ability to forgive.

In reality he's more like a fat incompetent bad guy. Like Robotnik in the Sonic cartoon Chris watched to "just win" the sweepstakes.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Such as? I would think most men are pretty up front and obvious in their motives. Everyone knows we all want the same things: the T.V. remote and maybe a sandwich to go with it.

But seriously, we're talking about getting laid, not international espionage.

A lot of men, when meeting a woman they want to fuck, won't just come out with "Hi, you're hot, my hormones are slam banging, do you have a boyfriend?", but Chris will/has done. We have to remember that Barb told him to stop telling people he's a virgin with rage, which, like his attraction sign, was something he was doing in public, with strangers.

Men would normally try some sort of game with the woman, but Chris seems to completely up front about why he's after a woman, and zero issues in telling them. At least he could have made up some thing about love and this and that, but that was all second to his decades long pussy quest. Weird things like his set-in-stone, sex on the third date sort of thing, are really some things out of the blue, and we know all this because Chris had no sense of thought to not admit stuff like that right out of the blue, to women he just met (who weren't trolls yet). Imagine those slow times in the early days when Chris was full on with this virgin with rage stuff, and all the women we don't know about, that Chris was macking on around where he lived.

Then recently with the Bella interview, where in the midst of the incest being magically and loving and all this, Chris was asked when or how it started and he just blurbs out "Well, I was really horny". All the love talk, spiritual stuff, blah blah, gone. It was just Chris getting his rocks off as the main motivation, and he had no issues explaining that, probably with a smug smile behind his bragging tone.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

We have to remember that Barb told him to stop telling people he's a virgin with rage, which, like his attraction sign, was something he was doing in public, with strangers.

Seems the only times Chris really learned something has been when it's related to "hanky-panky" and "romps in the hay" - or food.

Chris was trained to think of the intro paragraph as the "appetizer"; the body paragraphs, respectively, as "veggie", "potatoes/rice/pasta" and "meat"; and the conclusion as "dessert" (anything related to food seems to reach Chris).