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(CNN)A suspect is in custody after a shooting incident at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, left at least two dead and injured 14 people, including students, authorities said.

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) posted about an "active shooter" at Robb Elementary at 12:17 p.m. local time and said law enforcement was on site.

The suspect was taken into custody as of 1:06 p.m. local time, according to the Uvalde Police Department.
Two have died after the shooting at Robb Elementary School, a spokesperson from Uvalde Memorial Hospital told CNN.

The hospital received 13 children at their facility who were being treated for varying injuries, he said. Two children were transported to San Antonio and another is pending transfer, Tom Nordwick said.

Additionally, two patients were dead on arrival, he said. Nordwick was not sure of the ages of the two deceased. A man in his 40s was also being treated there, he said.

Nordwick did not have conditions on any of the victims.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 
I wonder what the long-term ramifications on the right's perception of police will be.

The left will go: "See? Police don't protect shit! They just kill PoCs! Get rid of all police!" so I wonder what the right's solution will be.

Probably:
See? Police don't protect shit! They just kill PoCs! Get rid of all police and get your own gun
 
Anybody can, now a days. US Army infantry is pathetic, may as well hire Walmart cops.

The USMC can still do the job, for now, until the vaxx effects kick in.
didnt the crayon eaters also just lose a war to goat farmers?
 
I'm sure everyone will be talking about this.

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I love how many Farmers are coming to the realization that American cops just fucking suck period lol
You know, there 's a huge difference between wanting to see real and substantial reform in the law and the way communities are policed and getting rid of of law enforcement altogether. The US to too large and too diverse (which is deliberate) and it's not longer a high trust, homogeneous society. We could debate if this diversity is a good or bad thing (in a different thread) but immigrants no longer need to adapt to American culture and beliefs, so they are allowed to indulge in all the practices from their country of origin, regardless if they are good or bad, and are not encouraged to learn English anymore.

I believe you can be a Muslim all you want in America, but you can't cut up your daughter's genitals, slaughter a goat in a parking lot/backyard or kill your relatives for shaming you without facing arrest and incarceration. It's not exclusive to Muslims or any particular ethnic group/race either; niggers now believe not allowing them to nigger out is racist. This is a set up to cause tension and bad behavior, which is probably intentional, but we need well trained and competent law enforcement, not imbeciles after a pensions and authority, to enforce good behavior and detain criminals. Of course we need a competent and efficient government too (because the environment in which this schizo was raised nurtured bad behavior) but that's for a different thread.
 
I think it's a shame that "but what if he shoots at us man i dun wanna die" was the mentality many of these cops had at the moment, if you willingly decide to become a cop is because you are willing to risk your own life to protect and save others, you should expect the slight possibility that you might have to engage a shizo with a gun at some point.

Sad.
 
I wonder what the long-term ramifications on the right's perception of police will be.

The left will go: "See? Police don't protect shit! They just kill PoCs! Get rid of all police!" so I wonder what the right's solution will be.
The far right hates cops and has since ruby ridge. Maga right doesn't have any real position and will happily put "don't tread on me" stickers next to "molon labe" and "don't tread on me" ones because it's all just signalling.

But I do wonder what the more mainstream right will do or think. Policing tends to have swings. In the 70s it was hated by the left and appreciate by the "law and order" right. By the 90s, it had swung because of those same incidents (waco, ruby ridge, etc) and you had the Clintons pushing money into policing to deal with 'super predators' killing people in black neighborhoods. After 9/11 there were some years, after a brief hero moment, everyone kinda stayed neutral on policing in general. The you had Obama and his "beer summit" and things started going bad and Michael Brown sent everything into overdrive. I am guessing the shift will happen again, at some point.
How to Fix Policing:
  1. Remove any and all frivolous and corrupt use of money in municipal departments, including "diversity and inclusion Czar" positions.
  2. Make sure that only registered citizens are allowed to be police.
  3. Require body cams on all officers and provide excellent public defense for officers acting in the line of duty.
  4. Allocate more money to training and payroll, so quality candidates actually want to become policemen.
  5. Raise application requirements for departments.
  6. Increase public support for law and order policies so police actually feel like giving a shit has a purpose.
  7. Dismantle or de-power police unions to de-politicize the profession.

The Gorge Floyd incident did possible irreparable harm to the thin blue line in America. Basically every good policeman quit thanks to that load of BS, and I doubt they are coming back. All we have now are scabs.
1- sure, that would help free up money. Also stop mandating hours of bullshit training that takes away from actual training. Good luck, though. Everyone loves to add 8 hours of training whenever something bad happens instead of addressing deeper issues. 8 hours meaning that as long as you sit there in the mandated training for 8 hours, that's it.
2- This is not a real problem, or if it is, it's the least of them.
3- Complicated... but probably necessary (complicated because it ends up reducing officer discretion which can be good and bad. Suspending officers for using a naughty word because the supervisor reviewed their BC footage and they said "fuck" to some gang banger is what ends up happening, though. Problem because sometimes that's how you have to talk).
4- This is a big one, especially money for in service training (i.e. not just the academy)- but it's a huge ask. Very few places want to spend a lot more money on police!
5- directly related to 4 (because you can only do this when you have more applicants) but also, what are application requirements? Who do you want as a cop? This is an unanswered question nationally. Some places think former military, some places want college degrees, some want a diversity of experience, etc. Policing used to be a very blue collar, middle class job.
6- Big one and can reduce problems with #4 ad #5 but there's really no way to actively do it. Even if every other cop in America was working hard towards this end, some doofus in Texas can ruin it for everyone by letting kids get shot while they wait outside.
7- this is just a talking point right up there with "get rid of the NRA." Police unions are a shell of what they used to be and have a very useful purpose that they can't really even fulfill anymore- to stop politicians from fucking over cops. You're not going to 'de politicize' police by getting rid of them.

If I may add my own:
- Empower field training officers to FAIL bad cops instead of passing them along. This won't happen unless a place has enough applicants, though. People are becoming cops who should have been weeded out long before. Also, field training should be held up as a crucial function. The guy in the George Floyd case was training 3 (!!) cops fresh out of the academy? Insane.
- Stop doing fucking tiktok shift dance videos this shit is embarrassing, you aren't winning hearts and minds you are making fools of yourselves in a uniform people have died over
- Chiefs, who are typically chosen due to their connections, should not be able to be appointed if they do not have some confidence of the rank and file.
 
Hold on, if you believe that the strongest army in the world got beaten by some goat farmers what makes you think they will be any more competent fighting against insurgents in their own backyard?
Though I generally agree with your point, I think a nation's government becomes much more efficient, dedicated and competent when oppressing its own population compared to handling foreign ones. It's a sobering thought.
 
Though I generally agree with your point, I think a nation's government becomes much more efficient, dedicated and competent when oppressing its own population compared to handling foreign ones. It's a sobering thought.
Yeah its also worth noting America hasn't been invaded since like the 1800s. We don't really know what America is really capable of doing given its on our own turf. Some will point out Waco but, given the opportunity and the U.S. thought it was going to lose power I can see it even nuking itself as a final solution.
 
Tanks don't hold territory. Tanks dont do midnight raids for contraband. Tank crews need to eat, sleep and shit. Tanks need regular maintenance. Tanks are far from impervious.
You'd think their inane cheerleading for Ukraine would teach them that tanks aren't necessarily as effective as we are led to believe, especially with the advent of Javelin type missiles, but I suppose expecting them to understand logistics on top of that is way too much to ask for.
 
Glad I haven't eaten breakfast yet. These will make you puke.

Check this out. This motherfucker needs to leave town, not join the city council.



This sack of shit plays a starring role here, too.




This cocksucker doesn't want to go on the field for our national anthem. Fuck him, fully. Just another reason I am glad to eschew all pro sports. You can let the team owners know at partnerships@sfgiants.com .


But I thought we needed the national anthem so we could kneel for all the dead crackheads and paralyzed rapists this racist nation turns out. How am I going to repent for being born the wrong color now?
 
Yeah its also worth noting America hasn't been invaded since like the 1800s. We don't really know what America is really capable of doing given its on our own turf. Some will point out Waco but, given the opportunity and the U.S. thought it was going to lose power I can see it even nuking itself as a final solution.
I unironically think our Boomer leadership is that fucking narcissistic, arrogant and nuts. There's a certain dark glee to domestic oppression that power-loving types get off on. That combined with America's 'ALWAYS double-down' syndrome. It's like the classical form of individualism becoming a funhouse mirror contortion into a hyper-narcissism. The Jungian shadow of American culture.
 
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I love how many Farmers are coming to the realization that American cops just fucking suck period lol
Many of us have known for years but the thin blue line fools refuse to acknowledge how bad some can be.

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As much as obsolete agricultural implements like to whine about how "the system isn't designed for us because pigs" the cuckservatives aren't really much better.

TBH the hero worship of LE is probably the worst part of the 2A community. I'm not really about the whole ACAB thing but seriously, who do you think is going to run around the country collecting your newly illegal firearms? Beat Off O'Dork?
 
I really want to see any and all bodycam footage related to this incident.
I think Chris has a higher likelihood of becoming a productive member of society than any of that footage ever sees the light of day. I'll be surprised if they admit any exists and there wasn't a "malfunction" somewhere.
 
But I thought we needed the national anthem so we could kneel for all the dead crackheads and paralyzed rapists this racist nation turns out. How am I going to repent for being born the wrong color now?
Emailed the owners of the Giants, politely let them know what I thought, bcc'd all my email buddies.

On a different subject, this tells me the entire Uvalde police force should be disbanded. While the police force is being reconstituted, county sheriff's deputies, Texas Department of Public Safety troopers, and Texas Rangers could take their place. Unless the Uvalde Police officer can prove they weren't at the school during the shooting, no present Uvalde Police officers would be allowed to apply for the new police department.


 
didnt the crayon eaters also just lose a war to goat farmers?
That wasn’t soldier fuckups. It was shitty leadership: picked the most hated vermin in the country they are trying to win and tried to make a government out of that pus-filled abominations that the locals had already recoiled from and then wondering why resistance grew steadily.
 
I think Chris has a higher likelihood of becoming a productive member of society than any of that footage ever sees the light of day. I'll be surprised if they admit any exists and there wasn't a "malfunction" somewhere.
You never know. Abbott is PISSED! They lied to his face. He wrote down detailed notes of what they told him, went right out and presented those "facts" at a press conference, only to find out they were lying about pretty much everything the next day. He wants members of the Uvale Law Enforsement community dead by firing squad hes so fucking pissed right now.
 
Yeah its also worth noting America hasn't been invaded since like the 1800s. We don't really know what America is really capable of doing given its on our own turf. Some will point out Waco but, given the opportunity and the U.S. thought it was going to lose power I can see it even nuking itself as a final solution.
They're not going to nuke their own country. They'd continue to be the ruling elite, but they'd be the ruling elite of a burnt out, radioactive shitheap.
 
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