He's even more delusional by thinking saying "oh i'll just keep the fans that aren't crazy, haha, ez pc guv, pip pip cheerio~!" got anything done.
In the end, it doesn't even matter. More content for the thread. I'm just pissed Millie, Reimu and others have to get spattered with the crap in his pigsty.
What does he actually do then? I'm not a fan of the content but it's what he likes to do and he's got a voice good for it and it's from what I know, a good chunk of his solo content. He's set the limits and said his piece on what he thinks of the people who take things to extremes, and if people are crazy about it that's on them. Giving ground and not doing things you want to do because people could be crazy is a slippery slope because someone will be crazy about something anyone does.
Lulu is more like Coco, both just didn't want the hate to bother the fans and co-workers. Now they are chill and doing what they want. Vox would be closer to Rushia, a disaster of their own making despite being very successful. I don't see him leaving tho.
In making these comparisons I hope that Cover and Suisei don't go the way of Niji and Melissa. Btw Melissa graduates today.
Mio came in and was more scared then Lui, but still love her for the effort. A Hag horror stream might be fun: Botan, Polka, Fubuki and Marine can laugh at Korone, Mio, Lui, Kyori, and Flare.
In my experience, we learned about most of the heinous stuff they did over the entire course of my schooling. It was never all at once, because it doesn't make sense it harp on and on about how bad and terrible they were. Instead you get it piecemeal during different grades when or if the curriculum comes back around to WW2. Honestly I think most people just don't pay attention, as evidenced by the fact that there are racebaiting retards out there that unironically claim southern schools don't talk about slavery or say that it's minimized. As a southerner myself, I'll have them know that the history books actually put nearly the entire emphasis on slavery instead of making it the central issue of the debate with other important factors contributing to... oh wait this is a vtuber thread. I seriously did get this far in writing this post before remembering where I was.
Naw, social studies focused on the Eastern front and glossed over atrocities other then the Holocaust. As far as the south, guess all those confederate flag waving good old boys were homeschooled... most people take issue with how the civil war was/is contexualized in the south during reconstruction and onward. To bring this round to being adjectnly on-topic maybe Pippa can do a civil war collab with someone like Atun-shei.
I'm sceptical of this Vox statement having much effect at all, good on him for mustering the courage to do it though. Logically you'd expect it to be enough to get the message across but we already know these people aren't sound of mind. I will not be surprised at all if a bunch of the fujos rationalise it as him being forced into saying all that stuff and him not really meaning it, bitches be crazy and this could just make them even more hostile to the rest of Niji.
Minor rant
I like, well love but like cause I can't be in love with a Korean hag can I? Nevertheless, her art style is both great and and and... such a detriment for her and her ASMR daughters. Mel's design is so very good, wish she had a bigger ass but, she is Asian. The main issue I have with Ayamy is how she draws cleavage, mainly how they are shaded and has contours that are almost too defined.
Ayamy and Healthy
vs.
Mel who has soft contours
And Ayamy is stacked so it's not like she doesn't have reference material.
She is flat so I didn't include her in my rant. Tonya is a fun channel to watch, she is a psudo-indie as her company has not actually fucking done anything. She is also Korean and like Ayamy gives no fucks about handcams. Here is a great one in general to reference when vtuber do ASMR this is what it looks like.
He said all the right things but also gave them plently of room to do their mental gymnastics. I'm sure they are all pointing fingers at everyone but themselves. It just comes with the territory.
I give it another 6-8 weeks before something happens again.
What does he actually do then? I'm not a fan of the content but it's what he likes to do and he's got a voice good for it and it's from what I know, a good chunk of his solo content. He's set the limits and said his piece on what he thinks of the people who take things to extremes, and if people are crazy about it that's on them. Giving ground and not doing things you want to do because people could be crazy is a slippery slope because someone will be crazy about something anyone does.
How about "I'm sick of y'alls shit, and until I see you mental fucks behave, I'm cutting you off." Paraphrasing, obviously.
No take backs, no back doors, no "oh b-buh-buh-but the not-crazy ones can stay cause I have learned nothing!!" bullshit. And actually apologizing publicly to Reimu and Millie (for starters) like a man with his balls in place would.
At first he denied there was a fire, then he complained he lost ten whole bloody minutes off a Miecraft stream to acknowledge it, and when he finally does address it, it's so half-assed he might as well not done it at all.
Whatever, I'm done blowing hot air over the bong mong. Gimme the hats. To think I wanted to start my day with a funny* picture where Kiara and the KFP are Hitler's successors. But then I got high MATI
What a shitshow this Vox drama is, time will show if it has a lasting impact on the fujos fanbase and everything around them (views, sc...) On the brighter side Ui finally got an update of her live 2D and rariemonn went all out on it. It looks really fluid, great work.
dont give this Vox guy too much credit. his still going to act like a man-whore because the money is just that good. he will slip up at some point and the drama will continue.
No idea either. If you're watching, go ahead and let us know if she says anything of note. I sort of hope she has figured things out in what she wants for vtubing and viewership, obviously she hadn't so far. Hopefully it's healthy, not so menhera, and in a good direction for her wellbeing.
Yes, he did... and then immediately gave them a backdoor.
He still is, and he addressed it quite shittily.
He's even more delusional by thinking saying "oh i'll just keep the fans that aren't crazy, haha, ez pc guv, pip pip cheerio~!" got anything done.
In the end, it doesn't even matter. More content for the thread. I'm just pissed Millie, Reimu and others have to get spattered with the crap in his pigsty.
see to me this notion that there was some magic statement perfectly calculated that would have not "left them a backdoor" is almost as deluded as the chinks are.
These are people that have convinced themselves they are "dating" an internet anime boy, there's no statement they can't delude themselves into thinking doesn't apply to them as long as it doesn't literally name them individually which is just not something that could realistically be done at the scale of his viewership.
There's fuck all one can do to directly curate ones fanbase, you can't just wave a magic wand and make the nutters vanish. the best you can do is minimize them by making your channel or community a place that is not comfortable for them. you can't directly change it but you can nudge it in a better direction. That's also why rapid growth can lead to some cancerous communities because the growth happens so fast that such internal pressures to grow a community in a good direction can't happen.
I like the ASMR novice and veteran dynamic but for fucks sake I want an ASMR all star collab. I don't really care about the medium but I think it would bring in a lot of viewers who don't care like me. Top holo 5: Noel, Fauna, Choco, Mel Mel, Robo/Aki/OGA? Basically, it might be a fun excuse to get a gaggle of vtubers in Noel's studio. Thinking about it, they might need a "straight man" to even out the energy to Ollie/Kanata/Sana getting bullied by onne-sans or Koyori/Lui/Korone/Reine being harassed. Fuck, I swear I am trying to touch grass.
Spoilers I have issues edition:
Um what they all praised Mio and made her blush?
View attachment 3291828 I wonder what's Mikeneko's plan. She does more Twitcast streams (live at the moment) than "full fledged" yt streams so far. Maybe she goes the Ayame route with streaming when she needs money. Or even less since she doesn't need to split her income with cover anymore.
Plan? Sometimes I wonder if people think about who they are wondering about. Thinking about you, who I am wondering about, I think you don't quite understand who notrushia is. She has no plan.
Speaking about needing Jesus. I wonder how much the holomems know about Noel's other job.
I wager Matsuri is deep in canan lore.
Curious about the rest.
They all have to know that she has a successful roommate channel but the question is what they have seen. Obv. all the ASMR artists know more and those who visited her studio as well.
One of the huge benefits the JP girls have is the shit like dance lessons. Ina may go for walks but it's probably not enough for her circulation/joints when she streams sand draws for however many hours. Didn't she also have a high resting heart rate? Poor sleep, and red bull aren't exactly good. For health Cover should probably try reminding them to move more, I know she has a busy schedule but even some shitty zoom dance classes while she dances in a shed would probably be beneficial just giving her a reason to exercise. As a bonus she would be better for the next 3D concerts. Calli too since she was apparently breathless on stage.
Holy fuck the nostalgia. One thing I hope more vtubers do is bring attention to overlooked games. In an ideal world the JP branch would play Fallout New Vegas because it's a great game Japan probably overlooked (and I want to see Korone as Vulpes fanart). Ina playing Legacy of Kain would also be great, especially with rumors the series is coming back. I also think Pekora would enjoy Factorio due to her trap autism.
Wait, you are acknowledging that JP talents do everything Ina does, plus some stream more and do dance classes/studio recording/3D live recording and Ina is overworked? She lives at home and her mom prob still cooks all her meals. Where does the time go?
I was not expecting to see a Vtuber's duodenum when I woke up this morning.
Also my heart goes out to Tenma, whatever she's going through she's a tough girl and I'm sure she'll get through it just fine.
Found this on an obscure paleo media channel. It looks like another small Vtuber is getting screwed over by copyright/Youtube. It kind of sounds like he fucked around and found out with Mojang though, so he does hold at least some of the blame:
On the topic of Dinotubers does anyone have any recommendations? I know there are some guys that play straight up dinosaurs but I've noticed a lack of dino girls. So far I've only found a genderless Stegosaurus and a German T-rex loli, neither of which were really to my taste.
from what I'm reading, the complaint may have had to do with the games the DOOG has been playing. Usual fan bullshit. Korone could play a game I could care less but if the DOOG is happy and having fun.. who the fuck am I to deny it? Plus you get all the Korone noises too
I think the offending superchat was talking about Korone not reading every superchat and showing favouritism or something. This split the koronesuki into a spergout between "Korone can do what she wants" and "He has a point" and resulted in a general flame war. Doog sad.
I think the default assumption for vtubers is that they will read every SC and it throws people off when you don't specify upfront that you don't. Amongst Myth, Ina's "I read everything offstream but will respond to anything that catches my eye live" is probably my preferred way of handling SC. Though as we've seen, SC can be content in itself with Watson's supasunday or Kiara's famed tangents turning 1 hour streams into 4 hour super chat readings.
It's a bit more of a mess than that
a thai guy sent a supa and she didnt read it, so he sent another to complain but he used google translate to put it in japanese and it came off sounding way worse than he meant it to
he talked to one of korone's dedicated fansubbers and the situation was explained and he apologized to korone on twitter
so a fairly large part of the community made peace with it, even if they thought it was dumb to complain about not having your supa read (it is), they accepted he didnt mean any harm
unfortunately then a mix of antis, SEAnigs and twitter spergs joined the fray
antis said she only reads supas from her biggest donors and only plays the games they want her to play
some people also start attributing these accusations to him
he gets various "fuck you and die" messages from all angles
the initial part of the community that already forgave him try to explain things and encourage everyone to make peace
they get accused of making excuses for antis saying horrible things and also get attacked
some took the bait and flamed back
Korone sees all this and the antis posts and takes a break
people then start blaming the dude for her taking a break and the cycle begins again
this worked depressingly well for the antis
why would anyone be a doog anti ffs
Korone's chat is interesting - she has been evading the recent vtuber channel attacks uncounsiously for however long she has streamed. She hide the icon for chat in an attempt to be egalitarian. Kinda pisses me off more that the 'sukis spazed out hard enough to warrant a break but Korone deserves so R&R no matter how she gets it.
Maybe, but I think Mea is a weirdo that connects people through being so raw. I really like her - from afar. Also, she might be able to beat Suisei with those tetris tactics, UI-mama take note.
Question of the day, what is the appeal of HAGS? Why do you like em aged and crusty? View attachment 3322650 what's the opposite of a hag called in vchuubing?
After Haachama's mass tweet proposal spree, she had a stream to review her Discord proposals and devise appropriate plans of attack. I wanted clips. Instead I find out that A-chan is in the hospital...? Hope it's not too bad.
She and Tamaki definitely have the biggest advantage in the JP VTubing world as an indie VTuber. Their name commands respect, can call up their connections in Niji and Holo for any of their needs, and can basically do whatever she wants with either companies.
Hmmm, I love Ui but Tamaki is a step above as she was the one organizing many of the events that make artists and other indies popular. Tamaki is one of the most influential vtubers still active, from her company to the constant collabs and her general character is still so entertaining.
see to me this notion that there was some magic statement perfectly calculated that would have not "left them a backdoor" is almost as deluded as the chinks are.
I vaguely remember this person, but isn't this that Filipino VTuber that tried to drama-bait graduation just to have a model reveal and it blew up in her fucking face, fucked over her career, and turned a lot of people off?
At first he denied there was a fire, then he complained he lost ten whole bloody minutes off a Miecraft stream to acknowledge it, and when he finally does address it, it's so half-assed he might as well not done it at all.
Most of the comments seem to be agreeing with him while also frowning on how some of the crazier fans behaved. It still won't do anything in the long run. He's basically selling drugs, but he's put down a sign that says 'drugs bad m'kay' and somehow hoping that it will turn away the crazy addicts. The only way to get rid of them is to stop giving them what they want.
Already bored of this one-note drama, i got excited for a second but it seems we underestimated how competent the bong actually is, i am still waiting for the niji's to get some good drama brewing, hololive can't keep hogging all of the fuckups and criticism for itself.
