General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Scuttle]

Salome has the Japanese audience by the balls right now. I've not seen anything like this before.

There's been over 1K people hanging out in her Free Chat waiting room for a couple hours now, and over 3K in her waiting room >2 hours before it's scheduled to start. She's about to hit 300K subs, but what's most important to note is that her subs were not frontloaded.

I've talked about frontloading before: it's the name I've ascribed to the pool of people who will sub to the new company member before they have debuted. The reason I call it 'frontloading' is because, particularly with Hololive (as did Ranunculus and maybe Noctyx, but it's too early to tell the latter with the data on hand right now), there tends to be a huge initial burst followed by a complete torpedoing of growth over time.

Salome did not have that. When she debuted, she only had around 50K subs. She's had multitudes of Twitter Trends in Japan, and I'm seeing non V-Tuber fans and famous voice actors talking about her. Her merch — which is not limited quantity — sold out and required an announcement today to say they were restocking, and I really do think that her growth will arc rather than plummet.

The worst part is...I still cannot for the life of me tell if she is some elaborate joke or not.

 

[PassiveUnaggressive]

The worst part is...I still cannot for the life of me tell if she is some elaborate joke or not.

Hey, working to be a proper lady by playing RE7 several days in a row is not a joke. :<

On a different note, June 10th:

 

[Wnrite]

Her merch — which is not limited quantity — sold out and required an announcement today to say they were restocking,

I'm too retarded/unknowledgable to comment on anyrhing else, but god damn do I hate the FOMO limited time/quantity shit that other vtuber corpos do. If I want to waste my money on a Tako and Kotori plush, let me.

 

[EenGevolg]

I'm too retarded/unknowledgable to comment on anyrhing else, but god damn do I hate the FOMO limited time/quantity shit that other vtuber corpos do. If I want to waste my money on a Tako and Kotori plush, let me.

Pretty much everyone seems to do FOMO for merch these days, content creators especially. Maybe stats prove it grabs people by the balls well enough, but I don't really get it. Not letting someone give you money down the line so that a scalper can get 3x what you'd get sounds stonks as fuck.

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

Shiori is describing philippines' circumcision practices, if anyone is interested .

 

[Zinnaha]

I'm too retarded/unknowledgable to comment on anyrhing else, but god damn do I hate the FOMO limited time/quantity shit that other vtuber corpos do. If I want to waste my money on a Tako and Kotori plush, let me.

Tbh it's just common in the JP industry since merch (especially anniverary) is seen as more of a special thing and not generally a secondary source of income, so it's more often than not you'll see goods be limited run/production/one of's. It sucks but it's pretty much always been that way unless it's set up to be a store front selling generic goods endlessly (for example plushies would be limited compared to acrylic stands, badges, stickers etc.) as:

Pretty much everyone seems to do FOMO for merch these days, content creators especially. Maybe stats prove it grabs people by the balls well enough, but I don't really get it. Not letting someone give you money down the line so that a scalper can get 3x what you'd get sounds stonks as fuck.

Stated, it seem to have spread to other creators in general now, MAYBE because the plague fucked up production lines, but even prior to 2019 I noticed "I have merch! ...It'll last for only 2 weeks and cost $300."

 

[BibiLivesMatter]

Question of the day, what is the appeal of  HAGS? Why do you like em aged and  crusty?

what's the opposite of a hag called in vchuubing?

 

[Scuttle]

Stated, it seem to have spread to other creators in general now, MAYBE because the plague fucked up production lines, but even prior to 2019 I noticed "I have merch! ...It'll last for only 2 weeks and cost $300."

As a collector, this post is giving me war flashbacks.

But yes, in the context of V-Tubers we also need to recognise that these companies are still comparatively quite small and won't risk overstocking. V-Tubers themselves, and their content, are not around forever and things can change overnight.

But just to keep the ship steady, I'd like to reiterate that I said Salome's merch was NOT limited time. Ranunculus' Welcome Goods are still there, and the Welcome Goods voice packs of every other member are still available.

Her merch sold out because she exceeded sales expectations and now the company need to commission the production to make more.

 

[Nolan Crush]

Alban birthday endurance

 

[A Lurking Dumbass]

Was given the trail on /vt/ and decided to do my own digging to confirm it. Bear with me.

AnyColor secured the patent for the name 'VOLTACTION' on April 1st of this year: exactly one week after they patented 'Ranunculus' which was the last JP Wave.

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You'll see some numbers underneath, which are the patent classifications the trademarks have been assigned. Without going into detail, you can surmise that Ranunculus and Voltaction having the same classes means that they are being made for the same purpose. In other words, it's very likely that the next Nijisanji JP wave will have this name.

Most of AnyColor's patents are still assigned under Ichikara Inc. This includes the term バーチャルライバー (Virtual Liver, or 'Liver'), which makes the term Niji's by law, which I found interesting. I cannot find anything for Nijisanji EN or any of its respective branches right now.

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Before anyone asks, I took a look at Cover Corp already:

They have trademarked literally everything, including names given to generations by fans like Holoforce and NePoLaBo (likely because they generated merch from it). The ID3 girls weren't officially trademarked until about 2 months after their debut. Individual names in HoloID 1, 2, and Stars were not trademarked until the end of 2021.

Coco is still trademarked. Aloe is still trademarked. Hitomi Chris is not. Interestingly, I did not see any formal trademark patent for UmiSea either, so we can put that one to bed.

There is nothing in there currently unannounced.

Nijisanji's group name choices are weird ngl.

New cursed Ame dropped.

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Twitter artists 'fixing' art.

Salome has the Japanese audience by the balls right now. I've not seen anything like this before.

There's been over 1K people hanging out in her Free Chat waiting room for a couple hours now, and over 3K in her waiting room >2 hours before it's scheduled to start. She's about to hit 300K subs, but what's most important to note is that her subs were not frontloaded.

I've talked about frontloading before: it's the name I've ascribed to the pool of people who will sub to the new company member before they have debuted. The reason I call it 'frontloading' is because, particularly with Hololive (as did Ranunculus and maybe Noctyx, but it's too early to tell the latter with the data on hand right now), there tends to be a huge initial burst followed by a complete torpedoing of growth over time.

Salome did not have that. When she debuted, she only had around 50K subs. She's had multitudes of Twitter Trends in Japan, and I'm seeing non V-Tuber fans and famous voice actors talking about her. Her merch — which is not limited quantity — sold out and required an announcement today to say they were restocking, and I really do think that her growth will arc rather than plummet.

The worst part is...I still cannot for the life of me tell if she is some elaborate joke or not.

CHecked her out. She's fucking crazy. Girl's growth is actually insane. 1M subs RTA

 

[Ensok]

The SubaLuna sports game stream that ended earlier was a lot of fun. Always love when those two stream together, whether it's just the two of them or when they're with Choco and Botan. Speaking of Choco, the "Is Simon There" stream she had last night was also good, got to hear a few good screams. Didn't know it turned into a Back Rooms game at the end but that was pretty entertaining too. Game also gave us some great Lui screams. Lui should play more horror games.

 

[augment]

If you cannot comprehend the inherent superiority of HAGS over your standard issue coomerbait, there really isn't any hope left for you.

 

[pururun]

It's harder than you think, especially if your job and friend circles are in English. Particularly in Tokyo, there's enough of an English-speaking community that it's very easy to get lazy or just let other things take priority. (Hell, I'm writing this when I should be doing my Japanese homework)

To add on to this, a person's micro-environment is much more important than their macro-environment in language learning. You could get a better Japanese language experience in America by constantly taking in a stream of Japanese content than you would in Japan if you just keep watching and listening to things in English. Being "surrounded" by the language doesn't mean much if your phone is still in English, all the movies and shows you watch are still in English, etc.

 

[masterstocking]

Question of the day, what is the appeal of  HAGS? Why do you like em aged and  crusty?
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what's the opposite of a hag called in vchuubing?

Ah. You see, 'Hag Love' is a reference to an infamous incident that happened in a German hotel in late 2020 which involved Kiara, a liter of rum, some pickles and several gallons of sauerkraut. It's named after the hotel that was trashed as a result of this fiasco. It was mostly covered up by Cover (ha!) and their legal team, but you can occasionally see people here who witnessed the video's gory details mentioning it in their profile or sometimes in posts. You might be able to find the original video link mirror if you search this thread for it.

 

[Kill Your Idols]

Pretty much everyone seems to do FOMO for merch these days, content creators especially. Maybe stats prove it grabs people by the balls well enough, but I don't really get it. Not letting someone give you money down the line so that a scalper can get 3x what you'd get sounds stonks as fuck.

Two reasons:

1. Overproduction is a drag on business, both financially and spatially. The ideal scenario in any merch production run is that you produce a set quantity of a product and sell out completely at full price. Obviously, there will be some latecomers who would have been willing to buy a product at full price, but trying to guess long-term demand is tricky and businesses love predictability, so they'd rather play it safe and produce what they think is an optimal amount for their profit margins.

Now think of the opposite scenario. If they make too much of a product and it stops selling as well as it did on launch, that merch doesn't just disappear, it's now taking up space in some storage area until enough people who missed the initial wave finally buy in. That's not a terrible scenario on its own, but if you overproduce enough times, you can run out of space hoarding garbage products that don't sell and your need for more and more space increases. Since rent ain't cheap, it turns into a balancing act of how much do they value the potential gains on this declining product vs. how much do they value having enough space in their storage units for future products vs. is it worth investing in more storage space to sustain both. If this sounds annoying to deal with, then you can see why some businesses prefer to say fuck all that, we're only producing [X] units of this merch and if you miss the boat, tough shit, better luck next time.

2. As an extra bonus to artificially limiting the supply, businesses also benefit heavily from FOMO culture. The shopper's anxiety of, "If I don't buy now, I'll lose out forever" generates impulse spending behaviors, which are much more desirable than the ambiguity of a wishy-washy customer who might wait for a sale or flat out forget about the product entirely once they click away from the store page. That'll also net more eyes on merch runs, because people who have been burned by missing out once will be more likely to keep up to date on merch news so they don't miss out a second time.

 

[RiverBear]

Salome has the Japanese audience by the balls right now. I've not seen anything like this before.

There's been over 1K people hanging out in her Free Chat waiting room for a couple hours now, and over 3K in her waiting room >2 hours before it's scheduled to start. She's about to hit 300K subs, but what's most important to note is that her subs were not frontloaded.

I've talked about frontloading before: it's the name I've ascribed to the pool of people who will sub to the new company member before they have debuted. The reason I call it 'frontloading' is because, particularly with Hololive (as did Ranunculus and maybe Noctyx, but it's too early to tell the latter with the data on hand right now), there tends to be a huge initial burst followed by a complete torpedoing of growth over time.

Salome did not have that. When she debuted, she only had around 50K subs. She's had multitudes of Twitter Trends in Japan, and I'm seeing non V-Tuber fans and famous voice actors talking about her. Her merch — which is not limited quantity — sold out and required an announcement today to say they were restocking, and I really do think that her growth will arc rather than plummet.

The worst part is...I still cannot for the life of me tell if she is some elaborate joke or not.

I think people are just waiting for the reveal that she is an elaborate joke.
Like the Rikku in her opening card, the throat pictures and the name scream joke.

 

[Che merda di posto]

Pretty much everyone seems to do FOMO for merch these days, content creators especially. Maybe stats prove it grabs people by the balls well enough, but I don't really get it. Not letting someone give you money down the line so that a scalper can get 3x what you'd get sounds stonks as fuck.

At least content creators have the excuse that maintaining a merch shop is costly, not everybody can effectively sustain it. Big corpos instead...

 

[makumak]

Salome w/ an 80k+ viewers for a lets play stream. I'm really curious who she is. nyfco.org still has no news about her for some reason despite the big trend she has in Japan.

She reminds me of that blue haired chick from that Umaru chan anime. The way they pronounce their desu wa is quite identical.

 

[A Lurking Dumbass]

Salome w/ an 80k+ viewers for a lets play stream. I'm really curious who she is. nyfco.org still has no news about her for some reason despite the big trend she has in Japan.

She reminds me of that blue haired chick from that Umaru chan anime. The way they pronounce their desu wa is quite identical.

Peaked at 94k. Her voice is filtering me hard, but I understand why the Nipponese love her. Very curious how long it'll take her to reach 1M subs. /vt/ just got themselves a new contender to tribalfag all over.

 

[Rratcatcher]

Peaked at 94k. Her voice is filtering me hard, but I understand why the Nipponese love her. Very curious how long it'll take her to reach 1M subs. /vt/ just got themselves a new contender to tribalfag all over.

She's basically like Laplus where she was born to play an ojousama rather than a chuuni? No wonder she is popular.