Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

[Dnein]

Why would anyone want more cortisol? I don't read this thread a lot and my understanding of cortisol (and adrenaline) in illness is more related to (medical-) anxiety and panic disorders.

It is a steroid, and people tend to perk up, feel better, less tired, etc. It doesn't hit like anxiety or fight or flight dump, it's more of an "power up" sort of effect. When you abruptly quit it, your adrenals take a bit to return to normal cort production, so you can feel miserable. This leads to a sort of dependence as well. The problem is that too much cort has horrific effects, like weight gain (moon face), heart damage, diabetes risk, etc, so long term Prednisone is a bad idea most of the time.

It's also prescribed for MANY things: allergies and asthma, skin issues, autoimmune, illness recovery, etc. It would be easy to con your way into with a little doctor shopping, and many of these munchies do so (look for the moon face. Bethany, Victoria, and Ash come to mind).

 

[NoReturn]

It is a steroid, and people tend to perk up, feel better, less tired, etc. It doesn't hit like anxiety or fight or flight dump, it's more of an "power up" sort of effect. When you abruptly quit it, your adrenals take a bit to return to normal cort production, so you can feel miserable. This leads to a sort of dependence as well. The problem is that too much cort has horrific effects, like weight gain (moon face), heart damage, diabetes risk, etc, so long term Prednisone is a bad idea most of the time.

It's also prescribed for MANY things: allergies and asthma, skin issues, autoimmune, illness recovery, etc. It would be easy to con your way into with a little doctor shopping, and many of these munchies do so (look for the moon face. Bethany, Victoria, and Ash come to mind).

Well that's horrifying.
If I may ask some follow-up questions:
How is it taken? What happens when someone with a panic or anxiety disorder takes it? Doesn't all this mean the munchies are shooting themselves in the foot even more?

 

[Dnein]

Well that's horrifying.
If I may ask some follow-up questions:
How is it taken? What happens when someone with a panic or anxiety disorder takes it? Doesn't all this mean the munchies are shooting themselves in the foot even more?

It comes in multiple forms, often pills but sometimes IV. People usually need to take half doses and step down even after a week long regiment.

Cort and anxiety is a funny sort of thing. Glucocorticoids are all about rhythms (high during day, low at night). Along with being system "uppers" they help keep signal circadian timing, and keep the emotional parts of the brain working. You start to see rage, anxiety, and mood regulation issues with long term hypercort even in people without those issue beforehand. Still, low cort or high inflammation can cause psych issues as well, and well timed or actually necessary cort supplementation can alleviate long term effects of anxiety. It really is a game of balance and timing, which isn't helped by raising a baseline artificially for no good reason.

They are shooting themsleves in the foot without a doubt It helps people with severe immune conditions survive, but comes at a huge cost. When they lie themsleves into it, it's all cost, no salvation. Still, if they want to be sick, it's an efficient way to get there!

 

[mold]

I just wrote a rough draft on antibiotic resistance and was FLOORED at how much it does. Its actually interesting to see how much in a decade we have throttled ourselves into our current health state. But I degress because I can write pages about it.

the thing about antibiotic resistance is that it's just a matter of time before we have a real pandemic caused by resistant bacteria, and it will kill kids, and covid made people resistant, lul, to doing what would be necessary to curb such a thing.

but it will take out all the hobos fast so there's a silver lining

 

[Otterly]

It is a steroid, and people tend to perk up, feel better, less tired, etc. It doesn't hit like anxiety or fight or flight dump, it's more of an "power up" sort of effect. When you abruptly quit it, your adrenals take a bit to return to normal cort production, so you can feel miserable. This leads to a sort of dependence as well. The problem is that too much cort has horrific effects, like weight gain (moon face), heart damage, diabetes risk, etc, so long term Prednisone is a bad idea most of the time.

It's also prescribed for MANY things: allergies and asthma, skin issues, autoimmune, illness recovery, etc. It would be easy to con your way into with a little doctor shopping, and many of these munchies do so (look for the moon face. Bethany, Victoria, and Ash come to mind).

Cataracts as well. Steroids are life saving in some situations but they should generally be short term (very rare things excepting.) they take your immune system right down as well.

The mucus also protects the bacteria from the effects of antibiotics by promoting the formation of biofilms,

Phage is very good against biofilms. I honestly don’t know why they’re not investigated more. I suspect because it’s needing to be tailored to the patient and that would make it hard to have consistency in trials, and also hard to make a profit, and medicine hasnt been about human health for a long time now.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Phage is very good against biofilms. I honestly don’t know why they’re not investigated more. I suspect because it’s needing to be tailored to the patient and that would make it hard to have consistency in trials, and also hard to make a profit, and medicine hasnt been about human health for a long time now.

There's also concern about how rapidly phage insensitive mutants have developed in preclinical models.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the fact that phage therapy was developed by Soviet scientists and largely remains the purview of Russian researchers has a lot to do with its failure to gain traction in the United States and the rest of the West. Unfortunately, research is highly political.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Hasn’t Page had MRSA like 27 times at this point? She’s been a superbug incubator for years now, hard to know which one will finally get her for good.

I hope they cremate her with the level of heat that destroys prions.

There's also concern about how rapidly phage insensitive mutants have developed in preclinical models.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the fact that phage therapy was developed by Soviet scientists and largely remains the purview of Russian researchers has a lot to do with its failure to gain traction in the United States and the rest of the West. Unfortunately, research is highly political.

It was actually discovered in the early 20th century by a French-Canadian amateur microbiologist. Laval University has the largest phage library in North America, including for historic diseases.

https://maisonneuve.org/article/2019/12/12/phage-crusade/

https://archive.ph/wip/4g5Tq

 

[BelUwUga]

I hope they cremate her with the level of heat that destroys prions.

I know I'm probably going to regret asking this, but surely some of these "terminal" munchies have discussed donating their body/organs to science when they die? I understand the smarter ones would know nobody is going to buy anyone is desperate enough to want a transplant of their clapped out organs but thinking their corpse is valuable for "Teh Science!" strikes me as exactly the kind of vain these people usually are. If Page "donates" and winds up in the wrong horror show body warehouse we might end up with some zombies in our dimensional merge. Although if that is the case, I'm laughing at Fauci and Gates getting BTFO. How many billions for the weak showing from COVID? If Page kicks the bucket and filled out the right forms you can probably get a biblical plague going for a bargain (from article):

 

[eternal dog mongler]

It is a steroid, and people tend to perk up, feel better, less tired, etc. It doesn't hit like anxiety or fight or flight dump, it's more of an "power up" sort of effect.

That's why a lot of pro athletes have "asthma."

Tour de France especially. Lance Armstrong was on triamcinolone acetonide, among other things. Bradley Wiggins was on it as a prescription for his win (Russian hackers got his medical records) despite his asthma being well-controlled with an albuterol inhaler previously...

ADHD is the other one. All these munchies with their performance-enhancing drugs just lying around being sick and getting fat, smdh.

 

[peach tea]

PAIGE UPDATE:

Not sure if it had been posted here already, but she went private on tiktok. I happened to be following her already so I caught the most recent update video.

TL;DW

She had surgery on her leg after a MRSA infection pretty much destroyed it. Her friend said she’s being placed under hospice care, but also goes on to say that Paige is supposed to go to her house next week to talk about “afterlife plans” so I’m assuming it’s home hospice care. She’s supposedly not getting any more “stomach surgeries” but idk what that even means. Apparently people have been contacting her family, not sure what’s going on with that as there was no elaboration. I’m assuming it wasn’t anyone from here…

The last video she posted herself was 6 days ago and the update is from someone she’s friends with who has access to her tiktok account. As far as recent videos before the one I’m posting now, it was just the usual staring into the camera with that “look” (you know the look) and sad music or whatever in the background. One video mentions that she doesn’t remember recording clips she included lol idk man. She seems cognizant to me but what do I know? There’s also mention of betrayal by a family member, and I’m assuming it’s one of her siblings, maybe her mom? But I thought her mom was already out of the picture, so not sure. Her dad is in a lot of her videos so it isn’t him and she mentioned her brother a couple weeks ago but it didn’t sound like there’s drama. Could be her sister based on what she said about her sister partying while she’s taping her “lifeline” to her face.

I included some select screenshots from the last few weeks so y’all don’t have to sit through the videos. Stills get the point across but I have questions… like why is someone who is so prone to chronic, deadly infections getting a tattoo and two new piercings? Not to PL but the consent form at the place where I get tattooed explicitly asks about current infections or risk of infection… they would absolutely never touch someone with MRSA in a million years, let alone MRSA that’s eating through someone’s leg. Does New Zealand just not give a fuck lol? I put the screenshot about the paramedics in there because I noticed she intentionally tries to position herself to show off the tattoo while also trying to look sad and pathetic. Further evidence that her TikToks are attention bait.

Anyway, here y’all go lol it’s a lot…

Edit:
The upload file for the video was too large, but my description was the gist of it. I can maybe find a way to post it if anyone absolutely needs/wants it lol

 

[ShadowCass]

PAIGE UPDATE:

….
Edit:
The upload file for the video was too large, but my description was the gist of it. I can maybe find a way to post it if anyone absolutely needs/wants it lol

I would be interested to see it, although I don’t know that I *absolutely* need or want it.

 

[just lurking]

PAIGE UPDATE:

Not sure if it had been posted here already, but she went private on tiktok. I happened to be following her already so I caught the most recent update video.

TL;DW

She had surgery on her leg after a MRSA infection pretty much destroyed it. Her friend said she’s being placed under hospice care, but also goes on to say that Paige is supposed to go to her house next week to talk about “afterlife plans” so I’m assuming it’s home hospice care. She’s supposedly not getting any more “stomach surgeries” but idk what that even means. Apparently people have been contacting her family, not sure what’s going on with that as there was no elaboration. I’m assuming it wasn’t anyone from here…

The last video she posted herself was 6 days ago and the update is from someone she’s friends with who has access to her tiktok account. As far as recent videos before the one I’m posting now, it was just the usual staring into the camera with that “look” (you know the look) and sad music or whatever in the background. One video mentions that she doesn’t remember recording clips she included lol idk man. She seems cognizant to me but what do I know? There’s also mention of betrayal by a family member, and I’m assuming it’s one of her siblings, maybe her mom? But I thought her mom was already out of the picture, so not sure. Her dad is in a lot of her videos so it isn’t him and she mentioned her brother a couple weeks ago but it didn’t sound like there’s drama. Could be her sister based on what she said about her sister partying while she’s taping her “lifeline” to her face.

I included some select screenshots from the last few weeks so y’all don’t have to sit through the videos. Stills get the point across but I have questions… like why is someone who is so prone to chronic, deadly infections getting a tattoo and two new piercings? Not to PL but the consent form at the place where I get tattooed explicitly asks about current infections or risk of infection… they would absolutely never touch someone with MRSA in a million years, let alone MRSA that’s eating through someone’s leg. Does New Zealand just not give a fuck lol? I put the screenshot about the paramedics in there because I noticed she intentionally tries to position herself to show off the tattoo while also trying to look sad and pathetic. Further evidence that her TikToks are attention bait.

Anyway, here y’all go lol it’s a lot…

Edit:
The upload file for the video was too large, but my description was the gist of it. I can maybe find a way to post it if anyone absolutely needs/wants it lol

God shes one of my favorite munchies.

 

[Cryptozoology]

PAIGE UPDATE:

Not sure if it had been posted here already, but she went private on tiktok. I happened to be following her already so I caught the most recent update video.

TL;DW

She had surgery on her leg after a MRSA infection pretty much destroyed it. Her friend said she’s being placed under hospice care, but also goes on to say that Paige is supposed to go to her house next week to talk about “afterlife plans” so I’m assuming it’s home hospice care. She’s supposedly not getting any more “stomach surgeries” but idk what that even means. Apparently people have been contacting her family, not sure what’s going on with that as there was no elaboration. I’m assuming it wasn’t anyone from here…

The last video she posted herself was 6 days ago and the update is from someone she’s friends with who has access to her tiktok account. As far as recent videos before the one I’m posting now, it was just the usual staring into the camera with that “look” (you know the look) and sad music or whatever in the background. One video mentions that she doesn’t remember recording clips she included lol idk man. She seems cognizant to me but what do I know? There’s also mention of betrayal by a family member, and I’m assuming it’s one of her siblings, maybe her mom? But I thought her mom was already out of the picture, so not sure. Her dad is in a lot of her videos so it isn’t him and she mentioned her brother a couple weeks ago but it didn’t sound like there’s drama. Could be her sister based on what she said about her sister partying while she’s taping her “lifeline” to her face.

I included some select screenshots from the last few weeks so y’all don’t have to sit through the videos. Stills get the point across but I have questions… like why is someone who is so prone to chronic, deadly infections getting a tattoo and two new piercings? Not to PL but the consent form at the place where I get tattooed explicitly asks about current infections or risk of infection… they would absolutely never touch someone with MRSA in a million years, let alone MRSA that’s eating through someone’s leg. Does New Zealand just not give a fuck lol? I put the screenshot about the paramedics in there because I noticed she intentionally tries to position herself to show off the tattoo while also trying to look sad and pathetic. Further evidence that her TikToks are attention bait.

Anyway, here y’all go lol it’s a lot…

Edit:
The upload file for the video was too large, but my description was the gist of it. I can maybe find a way to post it if anyone absolutely needs/wants it lol

Ketamine, fentanyl, and morphine?? Man, some people get all the luck when it comes to pain management.

 

[peach tea]

Ketamine, fentanyl, and morphine?? Man, some people get all the luck when it comes to pain management.

Not gonna lie, she had me seriously considering flying to New Zealand and breaking my own femur for a few minutes there…

 

[Automatisk]

The other day I saw this now deleted comment on one of Dani’s Instagram posts. It’s a very anonymous account, but I still chose to believe them since it confirms my suspicions that Dani is lying about finding her best friend Kelly’s dead body on her bathroom floor. Since she has no problem lying, for example she claims she has been in a relationship for the last 18 years, I was suspicious about her story from the start.
Here she is mumbling about it:

"Anyway, the psych eval, I had to tell them about Kel and how like, how I found her and how I feel guilty now. I blame myself and how like I have undiagnosed PTSD from it and how I hate bathrooms. I'm standing in the bathroom right now, but I'm talking to you guys so it's OK.

I have to distract myself every time I go into the bathroom, because like I can't go in there without seeing that image. And trust me, you don't want that to be the last image of your best friend. You don't, it's just horrible."

8:55
https://youtu.be/heh_dKG8RAU?t=535




When I read these comments on her TikTok a while ago I got the feeling that Dani just wanted an equally awful and tragic experience as her follower, so she took their story and made it her own.

And back to the deleted comment, I recognized the name Kadee from Kelly’s Instagram and googled her name. First, I found that she has her own thread here
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kadeeliveslife-kadee-konstantino.21983/

But I also found this:

"A Norwalk woman has been sentenced to three years in jail for supplying the heroin that killed a young Easton woman who overdosed earlier this year.

During an emotional hearing at the Stamford courthouse Tuesday in which the victim’s teenage sister was present, Judge Gary White handed down the prison sentence to 54-year-old Lori Ledonne, of Isaacs Street, Norwalk. Ledonne pleaded guilty this summer to second-degree manslaughter and sale of narcotics for causing the death of 22-year-old Kadeelyn Konstantino, who died on Ledonne’s bathroom floor in February."

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/po...n-for-Norwalk-woman-who-supplied-12270365.php


I know that Dani is sick, but is she sick enough to lie about the death of her best friend and steal the story about Kadee (yes, probably)?

 

[Rodrbob the drab]

There’s also mention of betrayal by a family member, and I’m assuming it’s one of her siblings, maybe her mom? But I thought her mom was already out of the picture, so not sure. Her dad is in a lot of her videos so it isn’t him and she mentioned her brother a couple weeks ago but it didn’t sound like there’s drama. Could be her sister based on what she said about her sister partying while she’s taping her “lifeline” to her face.

It was her mom. They had a falling apart a few years(?) back when her mother realized that her beloved sick daughter was actually a drug seeking munchie. They later reconciled but I guess her mom got fed up with Paige's shit (smeared wounds) again and put a final stop to their relationship. You can see how Paige tries to manipulate her mom by suddenly "wishing that her dad could be there" in multiple video descriptions following their assumed altercation.

On a video posted on 20th of May Paige's friend claims that Paige's mom is "narcissistic bipolar" and an attention seeker who's jealous of all the attention her daughter gets and that's the reason she lied about the whole munchie thing. Which is weird considering that she got attention for years when she was writing on that ed support forum but stopped writing there (and thus stopped getting attention) when she realized that Paige was a munchie, not an ed patient. I'm guessing her mother (narcissistic or not) might have seen that video and realized what a bitch her daughter is. I'm honestly happy for her if she can distance herself from Paige for good. What a horrible burden to have a daughter like her.

(A sincere fuck you to the person who mentioned kiwifarms to Paige and thus made me suffer through her cow-faced friend's rant.)

Spoiler: Friend's rant

Screenshots about the "betrayal"

Spoiler: Nothing interesting really

Friend's update on Paige

Edit: I can't spell to save my life.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

Ketamine, fentanyl, and morphine?? Man, some people get all the luck when it comes to pain management.

This is Paige we're talking about, so maybe this is a bit of a crazy theory, but maybe she is... lying?

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I hope they cremate her with the level of heat that destroys prions.

It was actually discovered in the early 20th century by a French-Canadian amateur microbiologist. Laval University has the largest phage library in North America, including for historic diseases.

https://maisonneuve.org/article/2019/12/12/phage-crusade/

https://archive.ph/wip/4g5Tq

Yes, but most of the research and development of phages was done by Eastern Europeans and much of the published data about phage therapy come from Russia and the former Soviet Union. It's definitely seen as an Eastern Europe Thing, even if that's not entirely accurate.

Edited to add that it remains incomprehensible to me that Paige has all of these uncontrollable, multidrug-resistant infections but her facial piercings are all perfectly healed.

 

[Cryptozoology]

I hope she's realizing what she's implying here. Either she's lying about being there period or she's conveniently around users for some reason...

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The other day I saw this now deleted comment on one of Dani’s Instagram posts. It’s a very anonymous account, but I still chose to believe them since it confirms my suspicions that Dani is lying about finding her best friend Kelly’s dead body on her bathroom floor. Since she has no problem lying, for example she claims she has been in a relationship for the last 18 years, I was suspicious about her story from the start.
Here she is mumbling about it:

"Anyway, the psych eval, I had to tell them about Kel and how like, how I found her and how I feel guilty now. I blame myself and how like I have undiagnosed PTSD from it and how I hate bathrooms. I'm standing in the bathroom right now, but I'm talking to you guys so it's OK.

I have to distract myself every time I go into the bathroom, because like I can't go in there without seeing that image. And trust me, you don't want that to be the last image of your best friend. You don't, it's just horrible."

8:55
https://youtu.be/heh_dKG8RAU?t=535


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When I read these comments on her TikTok a while ago I got the feeling that Dani just wanted an equally awful and tragic experience as her follower, so she took their story and made it her own.

And back to the deleted comment, I recognized the name Kadee from Kelly’s Instagram and googled her name. First, I found that she has her own thread here
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kadeeliveslife-kadee-konstantino.21983/

But I also found this:

"A Norwalk woman has been sentenced to three years in jail for supplying the heroin that killed a young Easton woman who overdosed earlier this year.

During an emotional hearing at the Stamford courthouse Tuesday in which the victim’s teenage sister was present, Judge Gary White handed down the prison sentence to 54-year-old Lori Ledonne, of Isaacs Street, Norwalk. Ledonne pleaded guilty this summer to second-degree manslaughter and sale of narcotics for causing the death of 22-year-old Kadeelyn Konstantino, who died on Ledonne’s bathroom floor in February."

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/po...n-for-Norwalk-woman-who-supplied-12270365.php


I know that Dani is sick, but is she sick enough to lie about the death of her best friend and steal the story about Kadee (yes, probably)?

 

[eternal dog mongler]

This is Paige we're talking about, so maybe this is a bit of a crazy theory, but maybe she is... lying?

Ketamine, morphine and fentanyl for chronic pain would be a weird, weird combo in the US, at least.

She may be on them, but also she may be getting them from the "pharmacist" who stands on the street corner and doesn't take insurance.