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[actually]

i wasn't politi sperging. phil claimed abortion is a right. it objectively is not

The law is not objective. Hence the purpose of the court system, and, in particular, the Supreme Court. Abortion was a right established by Roe v. Wade. If you think it should be a determination of the states individually, cool, but objectivity is not a thing in the law, despite efforts of some to achieve that.

 

[QwahlityKahntent]

The law is not objective. Hence the purpose of the court system, and, in particular, the Supreme Court. Abortion was a right established by Roe v. Wade. If you think it should be a determination of the states individually, cool, but objectivity is not a thing in the law, despite efforts of some to achieve that.

laws aren't rights. rights are inalienable and defined in the constitution. nowhere in the constitution does it say you have the right to abortion

edit: to clarify, i dont give a shit about abortion either way. but when people claim its a right, always triggers me

 

[actually]

laws aren't rights. rights are inalienable and defined in the constitution. nowhere in the constitution does it say you have the right to abortion

Which arms are covered by the 2nd amendment? How is "free speech" defined in the 1st amendment? Which rights are covered under the "right to be secure in their persons" of the 4th?

 

[QwahlityKahntent]

Which arms are covered by the 2nd amendment? How is "free speech" defined in the 1st amendment? Which rights are covered under the "right to be secure in their persons" of the 4th?

the government has been infringing on our rights for many decades. they chip away at them slowly so we don't notice and they'll continue to do so until we have nothing left and i hate them for it but still, abortion is not a right. its a legal issue.

 

[actually]

the government has been infringing on our rights for many decades. they chip away at them slowly so we don't notice and they'll continue to do so until we have nothing left and i hate them for it but still, abortion is not a right. its a legal issue.

Abortion specifically is not a right, but what about the right to have control over your body? If a woman can be forced to give birth because the fetus is considered a person, can she be required to maintain a specific diet and exercise regimen, and if she doesn't, she's charged with child abuse? How about ectopic pregnancy, where the fetus is never going to be viable?

 

[QwahlityKahntent]

Abortion specifically is not a right, but what about the right to have control over your body? If a woman can be forced to give birth because the fetus is considered a person, can she be required to maintain a specific diet and exercise regimen, and if she doesn't, she's charged with child abuse? How about ectopic pregnancy, where the fetus is never going to be viable?

Amendment IV​

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

this has nothing to do with body autonomy

 

[actually]

Amendment IV​

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

this has nothing to do with body autonomy

You're right. That's my bad. It was the 14th amendment.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

So can the state governments force women to maintain what they consider a "healthy" lifestyle, including dictation of what foods they can eat and so on? Seems like a natural follow-on if one believes that a fetus is a person and one believes in the sanctity of life.

 

[QwahlityKahntent]

You're right. That's my bad. It was the 14th amendment.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

So can the state governments force women to maintain what they consider a "healthy" lifestyle, including dictation of what foods they can eat and so on? Seems like a natural follow-on if one believes that a fetus is a person and one believes in the sanctity of life.

still sounds like a massive stretch to try and make that about abortion. i don't think that falls under "privileges or immunities".

 

[actually]

I would put it under the life/liberty bit, but that's where a lot of the argument comes from, I think. Ultimately, I'm mad that the same people who go on and on about how it's too expensive to make sure kids have food or that people can access healthcare without worrying about the expense are the same one who are now celebrating that women will be forced to undergo a physically, psychologically, and financially exhausting process. Not to mention all the other issues that follow from this: can a woman sue for child support from the time of conception? Can I force someone to give me an organ to keep myself alive since control of a person's body is no longer theirs? How about religious practices that allow abortion (Judaism being the most common example, but Satanic Temple and Islam too)--does this specific Christian view overrule them?

It's a shitshow, and a lot of people will die unnecessarily. Thomas has also indicated that he intends to go after Griswold (contraception), Obergefell (gay marriage), and Lawrence (sodomy laws) because they were decided on the same grounds as Roe.

 

[Dona Morte]

I think this debate has gone well beyond what is reasonable. This is what the left does A LOT- over reach.
(Not the forum debate, I like Actually's counter points- refreshing to hear something behind reeing.

I never had an issue with the concept of abortion. If that is your last resort then absolutely.
The rape, and medical reasons left representations tend to be.... over blown.
On the other hand the right does get this issue wrong as well with their spergery over moral superiority (a lot of them have had illegitimate pregnancies).
I've said it before- the central government has too much power over the whole country.

So the good that will come out of this is that people will finally actually buy into the whole political system and VOTE.
I will close by saying- the women who use that as their FIRST resort while barebacking around the neighborhood- that is the kind of abortions I have and issue with. Not the happy established woman who missed her period and got around to see a doc.

Don't want to wear a rubber? Don't have sex.

 

[actually]

I think this debate has gone well beyond what is reasonable. This is what the left does A LOT- over reach.
(Not the forum debate, I like Actually's counter points- refreshing to hear something behind reeing.

I never had an issue with the concept of abortion. If that is your last resort then absolutely.
The rape, and medical reasons left representations tend to be.... over blown.
On the other hand the right does get this issue wrong as well with their spergery over moral superiority (a lot of them have had illegitimate pregnancies).
I've said it before- the central government has too much power over the whole country.

So the good that will come out of this is that people will finally actually buy into the whole political system and VOTE.
I will close by saying- the women who use that as their FIRST resort while barebacking around the neighborhood- that is the kind of abortions I have and issue with. Not the happy established woman who missed her period and got around to see a doc.

Don't want to wear a rubber? Don't have sex.

If proper sex education was taught along with providing low- and no-cost birth control (condoms, pill, IUDs, etc), the number of abortions would plummet. Colorado did a privately-funded test run (https://cdphe.colorado.gov/fpp/about-us/colorados-success-long-acting-reversible-contraception-larc) and cut the rate of both unplanned pregnancies and abortions by half. Saved a shitload of money too.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

How the fuck did the political sperging reach the dsp forum? You know this is about a gouty alcoholic whose brain is addled by untreated sleep apnea, he only thinks about money, digital cocks, gin and greasy food.

 

[actually]

How the fuck did the political sperging reach the dsp forum? You know this is about a gouty alcoholic whose brain is addled by untreated sleep apnea, he only thinks about money, digital cocks, gin and greasy food.

Because Phil actually tweeted about it. The mocking of his continued lack of understanding of US governmental structure and the fact that he didn't vote, both in 2020 and probably ever, stayed in the main thread.

Opinions on the Supreme Court decision itself were put here so discussion could happen as desired without shitting up the main thread.

 

[Gramh]

I think this debate has gone well beyond what is reasonable. This is what the left does A LOT- over reach.
(Not the forum debate, I like Actually's counter points- refreshing to hear something behind reeing.

I never had an issue with the concept of abortion. If that is your last resort then absolutely.
The rape, and medical reasons left representations tend to be.... over blown.
On the other hand the right does get this issue wrong as well with their spergery over moral superiority (a lot of them have had illegitimate pregnancies).
I've said it before- the central government has too much power over the whole country.

So the good that will come out of this is that people will finally actually buy into the whole political system and VOTE.
I will close by saying- the women who use that as their FIRST resort while barebacking around the neighborhood- that is the kind of abortions I have and issue with. Not the happy established woman who missed her period and got around to see a doc.

Don't want to wear a rubber? Don't have sex.

If people aren't allowed to make stupid decisions that you don't agree with, then you support forced vaccination? How far down does that rabbit hole go of trying to legislate people from not making poor decisions?

 

[UncleTusky]

The mocking of his continued lack of understanding of US governmental structure and the fact that he didn't vote, both in 2020 and probably ever, stayed in the main thread.

I'm pretty sure he is proud to have never voted: If I remember right he believes that because Connecticut and Washington are both safe blue states, his vote doesn't matter and anyone in his community who bothers voting is stupid because it's all a waste of time (never mind that those "stupid" people are the reason the Democrats always win those states so easily).

Given that Connecticut has had multiple close races for Governor in recent years and he's either in or just barely outside a very competitive US House district in Renton you can tell how much homework he's done. Washington even has mail-in voting so he can't claim it'd be a hassle if Election Day doesn't line up with his Designated Day Off.

Edit: Never forget that in Phil's world, the only thing his taxes pay for is "not getting invaded". I wonder how he thinks the DMV, police, and fire department are funded.

Edit x2 to avoid double post: The other basis for a right to an abortion is the 9th amendment which says:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

In plain English it means that just because a right is not explicitly spelled out in the Constitution does not mean it is nonexistent or not protected. How far it extends is up for debate and a better explanation of this from a libertarian site can be found here.

 

[豚蜚蠊]

I'm pretty sure he is proud to have never voted: If I remember right he believes that because Connecticut and Washington are both safe blue states, his vote doesn't matter and anyone in his community who bothers voting is stupid because it's all a waste of time (never mind that those "stupid" people are the reason the Democrats always win those states so easily).

Given that Connecticut has had multiple close races for Governor in recent years and he's either in or just barely outside a very competitive US House district in Renton you can tell how much homework he's done. Washington even has mail-in voting so he can't claim it'd be a hassle if Election Day doesn't line up with his Designated Day Off.

Edit: Never forget that in Phil's world, the only thing his taxes pay for is "not getting invaded". I wonder how he thinks the DMV, police, and fire department are funded.

Edit x2 to avoid double post: The other basis for a right to an abortion is the 9th amendment which says:

In plain English it means that just because a right is not explicitly spelled out in the Constitution does not mean it is nonexistent or not protected. How far it extends is up for debate and a better explanation of this from a libertarian site can be found here.

I was curious about this so I looked it up, Phil is in Washington's 9th district which is a safe democratic district. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington's_9th_congressional_district
Regardless some of the downballot races, which are just as important if not more so than the national races, are probably competitive. People probably don't talk about them on his Twitter feed though.

 

[Iron Father]

K-pop has always been an inferior knockoff of J-pop. Culturally speaking, Koreans are the biggest weeaboos ever, even if many don't realize it. It's almost all derivative of Japanese culture, and surprise: the Japanese do it better:

 

[Coke Zero]

get his patreon taken down since he refuses to fulfill his obligations for it, where's that credit scroll listing his patreons?

hack his PS, you tellin' me kids can social engineer their way into his bank account, but can't get that PSN?

fat boy likes door dash, why don't somebody door dash him some bacon 5 times a day, this'll make it so he has to call every place that delivers and get them to stop, which will make it extra annoying when he actually wants to order.

there's three good options off the top of my head. there's plenty of ways to fuck with the fat boy if you so desire.

I just wanted to add a few more easy ideas:

Call twirls & twirls and pretend to be phil and reschedule/cancel his appointments. Also change the phone number they have on file for him so he won't be auto notified of the updates.

Send him fake psn/Xbox live gift card numbers. He'll have to waste time typing them in just to find out they're fake.

Send any contractors who do free estimates to his house - bathroom remodelers, pest control, ac installers, etc. Maybe try sending them to the condo association directly also and use Phil's contact info so the property managers or whatever think phil sent them and they'll contact him to figure out whats going on.

 

[RaidenAUndertale]

'Public record' sounds kinda arbitrary to me. From a purely moral standpoint I see nothing wrong with exposing a scammer even if it means breaking the law.

If you lie about your financial situation, concocting mystery bills and acting like you can't afford basic necessities, all whilst whaling it out on some gacha game and ordering DoorDash everyday off the backs of gullible folks, you absolutely forfeit whatever "right" you think you're entitled to, to privacy regarding financial matters, in my opinion.

That is pretty fucked up man. You can't just enforce judgement unto others like that. That's kinda like the EDP scenario where the people who set up the sting were assholes themselves and wouldn't work with the police. Regular people can't take the law into their own hands.

Probably a violation of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003.


Constitutionally protected free speech.


Chargeback fraud.

See how easy this is?

The first one, maybe, but the free speech thing makes no sense in this scenario, and I don't think chargeback fraud would apply when tipping a streamer.

If you're talking about someone or something, it is almost impossible to commit a crime because of the 1st Amendment. If you are fucking with someone, you put yourself at risk - no matter how slightly - of being charged with something or sued. Hence why I tell people they should not do that.

It really depends. I guess I agree that at the very least these things like these should not be planned or HINT HINT -ed on this open forum

I'm merely expressing my opinion regarding the leaks. I have never trolled Phil directly nor do I ever intend to.

Lmao that backpeddle

What I can't understand is your strange black-and-white rationale regarding trolling. Something really bad must have happened on this site at some point for you to take such a rigid stance, I suspect.

I think just generally he's trying to keep things in check. People want this site to have a decent reputation, all things considered. So being known as "the place where they plan how to fuck with people they don't like illegaly" would be pretty bad.

 

[Si vis pacem para bellum]

Because he makes it obvious that it's a moral problem for him, using "it's illegal!" as a cover. He said himself that he put a stop to the doxing when it was being used to coerce. He speaks of DSP's "humanity" being violated when people show where the money has been going.

Using Doxing to coerce is going into coercian law. Using threats or violence to force someone to do something. hurr durr. He speaks of his humanity in a fact way, not some philosophical way. You're both being willfully ignorant about this and discussing this with me now because he has you beat on this.

Phil puts out a ton of content every week, literally 40 hours of blabbering about nothing. Some of us, probably me included, watch too much of it. Most of it is very boring gameplay, but then there are the hours when Phil lies, begs, scams, bullies, and blames everyone but himself. He's very unlikeable, and when you listen to him regularly it's hard not to want to see consequences for his shit. But no matter what shit he pulls, he never disappears, and he also never moves past level 1. By his own words he's barely surviving and constantly on the brink of failure....but the final loss never comes. And I get that that's frustrating.

But in the end, Phil's life is the punishment. He's a loser surrounded by a few dumber losers who he treats like shit yet also depends on to live. He looks terrible, sounds miserable, and take no joy in anything. Through his own stupidity has put himself in a situation he can't and won't improve. He's his own worst troll.

A-fucking-men. You can't just consume DSP guys, it's just going to rub in your face how scummy he is. The more its in your face the more overexaggerated it is, and the more you're exposed to people talking about it in this vitriolic and angry way that amps you up about it. He's just a faggy lying beggar. You gotta take a break and get some space to remember, he quite literally is ruining his own life and fucking insane speeds. Remember the bank leaks during these hard times when your frustration is so high. This guy spends so hard so fast that making a damn good salary he's still broke and late to pay mortgage.