Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

celebrityskin said:
People today have their close friends and their immediate family, what's fallen away is acquaintances, friends of friends, coworkers, neighbours, old church ladies, community volunteers, local bar flys, guys who you play sports with. Those tier two, three and sub - connections that don't eat up a ton of time but might help connect you to new strangers just don't exist like they used to, and their absence is felt in the lean opportunities available for new connection.
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Bro, most normal people still have those extra connections. In fact I'm struggling to think of a single person I've ever met who doesn't have a wide web of those "tier-two+" connections. You use them to meet new people for dating, as you've implied, but you also use them to bolster your professional network and advance your career/get jobs/opportunities, or even just for fun like throwing parties.

Sure, Covid's fucked a lot of that up, but those webs don't just disappear because of something like a pandemic. I suspect the people that don't have tier-2+ connections now (if they even exist) are the same ones that didn't have them back before Covid was a thing.
 
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Knight of the Rope said:
Sure, Covid's fucked a lot of that up, but those webs don't just disappear because of something like a pandemic. I suspect the people that don't have tier-2+ connections now (if they even exist) are the same ones that didn't have them back before Covid was a thing.
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You would be correct. I've lived here 5 years and know maybe 5 peoples names locally. Same in the previous city I was in for 4 years, same for the 2 years before that. COVID has not changed anything for me.

I know plenty of work-people but none of them live here, and sure I do hit them up when it's time to change jobs it has no bearing on who I know locally or anyone I might want to meet locally or any local events.
 
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Knight of the Rope said:
Bro, most normal people still have those extra connections. In fact I'm struggling to think of a single person I've ever met who doesn't have a wide web of those "tier-two+" connections. You use them to meet new people for dating, as you've implied, but you also use them to bolster your professional network and advance your career/get jobs/opportunities, or even just for fun like throwing parties.

Sure, Covid's fucked a lot of that up, but those webs don't just disappear because of something like a pandemic. I suspect the people that don't have tier-2+ connections now (if they even exist) are the same ones that didn't have them back before Covid was a thing.
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Covid is a plot by the Chinese communists to destroy the US economy by turning everyone into NEETs.

Honestly being a loner who doesn't typically engage with others is a bit of an advantage right now because I can imagine a very social and likeable person just having a serious mental breakdown because all the clubs and bars and shit are closed.
 
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Fentanyl Floyd said:
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Absolute fucking cringe, but blackpillers love to eat this shit up for some reason. Everybody has different circumstances growing up that made them who they are. These circumstances are mostly out of your control because you are kid. Because of this, some need to pull themselves up and some dont, simple as.
TinCan Wizard said:
Girls suddenly payed attention to me, but due to years of being a sperg made me dislike them more. Any ''flirty'' comment, or a girl touching my biceps I would automatically assume it was made in jest or to mock me.
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This happened to me too at first, I had extremely low self esteem so even though I had girls giving me their info and trying to talk to me I thought it was a big joke or a one-off occurrence or she gives her number to everybody. I would try to make the situation into a negative thing almost always. It took it a couple months of that before I realized that, holy fuck, maybe I just look decent and I am a good guy. I also had some resentment because girls ignored me when I was ugly but then I realized that honestly I wouldn't want to flirt with an ugly fat girl who doesnt care for herself either, and it just made a whole lot more sense to me.

As for incels/being a loser/having major depression, It's really just a matter of doing something in my opinion and experience. Like this,
  • I was fat and ugly and I hated it, so I went to the gym, ate good quality food, and tracked my calories.
  • I felt like shit mentally, so I read on mental health, went to therapy, challenged my negative cognitions, I got my sleep in order, and I ate healthy foods making sure to hit all my vitamin needs and whatnot (You are what you eat, if you eat fucking McDonalds all day of course you are going to feel like shit).
  • I was socially awkward, so I put myself in social situations that made me uncomfortable like talking to strangers, meeting new people. I stopped caring so much about what everybody thought of me, I became more assertive.
  • My grades were shit and made me feel stupid, so I dedicated myself to having work time and told myself I wasn't going to have ass school anymore.
  • I had a substance abuse problem, so I realized why I was smoking weed and drinking so much after reflection, and decided to fix that all and now I don't smoke weed all day 24/7 or binge drink alcohol.
Of course, I'm not saying that I'm a Joe Normie now. I obviously post on here, I still occasionally play videogames and watch anime, but now I'm more social and outgoing, and it makes me happier and more fulfilled to be so. I really think that if I, somebody who was peak 4chan degenerate, can do this, than anybody can.
 
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TheShedCollector said:
Just checking in to see if the desperate loneliness and helplessness any of you spergs feel due to your crippling failures to become men has caused any of you to put a gun in your mouth yet.
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Personally I'm going to go with car exhaust in a sealed garage but I need my learners drivers license and a car and a garage first
 
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Dating apps are terrible and if you're using it to find a relationship rather than a quick shag you're doing wrong.

Honestly go to a drama group a lot of women there to talk to. Also no one is attracted to "confidence", confident people get called cocky and arrogant all the time, what most people are attracted to is outgoing positivity, only negative Nancys dislike that and even then you can have fun with the back and forth of them being a overly negative and you being overly positivity, and every time you make them smile is victory.
 
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SneedEyeMitch said:
Also no one is attracted to "confidence", confident people get called cocky and arrogant all the time,
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People who aren't confident get called absolutely nothing, because nobody remembers them. Confidence is just noticeability, in the same way that celebrities get laid - it's not the fact that they're attractive or impressive, it's the fact that they're noticed by a great many people.
 
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Willie Thrills said:
People who aren't confident get called absolutely nothing, because nobody remembers them.
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100% lad, I just find when people talk about confidence being attractive they normally mean that person is outgoing and positive to be around, and you don't even need confidence for that, I know a guy that very outgoing and positive lad to be around but he'll tell you he has no confidence in himself and him being outgoing is to hide how much anxiety he has.

He's married and has two kids now, and compare him to his wife he's a 5 and she's an 8 in the looks department.
 
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SneedEyeMitch said:
no one is attracted to "confidence", confident people get called cocky and arrogant all the time, what most people are attracted to is outgoing positivity.
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Willie Thrills said:
Confidence is just noticeability,
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No. Confidence is stability, the most attractive trait you can have. When you have someone who knows what hes doing, you feel safe around him.
It really doesn't have to be more complicated than that.

Mexican_Wizard_711 said:
Why the fuck does the media keep thinking only right wingers can be incels? when I have seen plenty of left wing and tranny incels
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Corpo-media are retarded, more news at 11. Gee, who would have guessed!
the sooner you stop thinking in Rightwing/Leftwing the better, stop being psyoped.
 
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