kukkia
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I've had those cookies in the American midwest before, but yeah, in general they seem to be more of a Northeast thing.I had seriously never seen these in the entirety of my life until she rated them, so maybe there's some credibility to the 'northeast Fauna' theory?
People criticize Hololive members regularly here. Calli and Chicken doomposting is a weekly meme at this point. I get where you are coming from, the odds are not in your favor of finding someone whose mainstay is Nijisanji here.
But I'll point out that, at least in these recent cases, Nijisanji is really not looking too hot. Vox's bizarre ASMR goes well beyond the spiciest shit anyone from any corpo has pulled (Hell, I don't think Canan goes that far minus the cam); and Finana is speedrunning toward controversy central (and I actually kind of like her, horny fish was a bit endearing until recently). Nijisanji clips and highlights are more than welcome, and there are pages (lost to time like tears in rain), that a good few, myself included, fangirled over Pomu doing something fun.
I've been playing a lot of catch-up with this thread recently, so I'm reading around 20-60 pages at a time. It creates a bit of perspective. A lot of tribalistic shit is going on, and it is substantially worse than it was back in the early 2000s. . . a whole new world from the hundreds. People need to chill. Either cool it with the moronic takes, or people need to grow their first layer of skin. It's like mild talk is spears around here recently.
In general I agree with you. That being said, I do think that the doomposting and criticism tends to come more from a place of ignorance when it comes to Nijisanji compared to Hololive.
This is mostly just a result of Hololive being the default in the EN fandom (especially back in 2021, when most people here got into vtubing) and thus being the most popular around here. There aren't a ton of Nijisanji fans here, while there are a lot of people who only engage with Nijisanji in relation to drama. Go to, say, the Niji threads on /vt/ and one will see the opposite dynamic at play.
It's a bit like if Hololive was obscure, and most people here only discussed Hololive in relation to Calli liking cuck art, Nene plagiarizing people, Rushia imploding her career, etc. In other words, taking real incidents - some small, some large - and making that their sole lens for viewing Hololive. People do doompost about Calli and Kiara, but that makes up a relatively small portion of Hololive discussion here, and such commenters are typically met almost instantly by others - including myself - mocking them for doomposting. As you mentioned, it's a meme.
In the case of the specific drama that caused people here to sperg out about politics - Finana banning "trap" - I am one of the people here who criticized her for it. However, a lot of the energy here has big Twitter cancel energy, as in, inflating something relatively minor into a supposed giant yab. And just like most Twitter cancel efforts, the anger will probably have no real impact Finana. Dislike bombs have a poor record of accomplishing things. Feel free to quote this if I'm wrong, but a month from now barely anyone is going to give a shit about this.
It reminds me of the Pomu-Finana offcollab in which Uki showed up - people here proudly proclaimed that she'd kill her growth through such things, yet she actually gained more subscribers than average when that happened.
To use another example, though admittedly an old one, people here once talked themselves into believing that Anycolor's Yumenographia project was connected to the literal yakuza based off of a few misread comments.
In general Anycolor has had a very strong latter half of 2021 and 2022 after making a lot of very necessary improvements, so the talk of Nijisanji being constantly one step away from blowing up feels a bit like desperation on the part of those who simply want that to be true. I've read people proclaim the coming demise of Pomu, Vox, Luxiem, all of NijiEN, and the entire company as a whole, yet clearly none of that has happened.
Nijifags here definitely need to have a thicker skin, as I've said multiple times. People in general need to have thicker skins here. As much as Nijisanji fans here are often guilty of jumping on bait, Hololive fans often fall into the spergery just as readily. That's why my general take on such things is to just ignore the most blatant spergs.
This is mostly just a result of Hololive being the default in the EN fandom (especially back in 2021, when most people here got into vtubing) and thus being the most popular around here. There aren't a ton of Nijisanji fans here, while there are a lot of people who only engage with Nijisanji in relation to drama. Go to, say, the Niji threads on /vt/ and one will see the opposite dynamic at play.
It's a bit like if Hololive was obscure, and most people here only discussed Hololive in relation to Calli liking cuck art, Nene plagiarizing people, Rushia imploding her career, etc. In other words, taking real incidents - some small, some large - and making that their sole lens for viewing Hololive. People do doompost about Calli and Kiara, but that makes up a relatively small portion of Hololive discussion here, and such commenters are typically met almost instantly by others - including myself - mocking them for doomposting. As you mentioned, it's a meme.
In the case of the specific drama that caused people here to sperg out about politics - Finana banning "trap" - I am one of the people here who criticized her for it. However, a lot of the energy here has big Twitter cancel energy, as in, inflating something relatively minor into a supposed giant yab. And just like most Twitter cancel efforts, the anger will probably have no real impact Finana. Dislike bombs have a poor record of accomplishing things. Feel free to quote this if I'm wrong, but a month from now barely anyone is going to give a shit about this.
It reminds me of the Pomu-Finana offcollab in which Uki showed up - people here proudly proclaimed that she'd kill her growth through such things, yet she actually gained more subscribers than average when that happened.
To use another example, though admittedly an old one, people here once talked themselves into believing that Anycolor's Yumenographia project was connected to the literal yakuza based off of a few misread comments.
In general Anycolor has had a very strong latter half of 2021 and 2022 after making a lot of very necessary improvements, so the talk of Nijisanji being constantly one step away from blowing up feels a bit like desperation on the part of those who simply want that to be true. I've read people proclaim the coming demise of Pomu, Vox, Luxiem, all of NijiEN, and the entire company as a whole, yet clearly none of that has happened.
Nijifags here definitely need to have a thicker skin, as I've said multiple times. People in general need to have thicker skins here. As much as Nijisanji fans here are often guilty of jumping on bait, Hololive fans often fall into the spergery just as readily. That's why my general take on such things is to just ignore the most blatant spergs.
Anyways, enough of the political spergery, I really like Nagao's approach of practicing English by talking to a different EN-speaking liver each day. Today is Millie:
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