Mass shooting reported at an Independence Day/July 4th parade in Highland Park, Illinois - Reported Casualties: 6 dead, 24 Hospitalized - Suspect in custody

Suspect is white male, slim build, long black hair and 18-20 years old.

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You are advocating throwing money into a system that does not work.



My new ignorant nigger friend, did you actually request a citation you didn't bother to read?

The article specifically is about anti-depressants. Major Tranquilizers, anti-psychotics sure as shit do something. Benzos, amphetamines.... Lots of stuff does stuff -- but does it help?



Takes time to build up is only a saying people use with anti-depressants. That's a red flag.

But overall the efficacy of mental health treatment is in the shitter and I don't think it's cause nobody ever thought to go to counseling to talk about their feelings.
>Is there a rule here against whitespace and using quote effectively?
Sorry, but Usenet quoting is far less time consuming.
>You are advocating throwing money into a system that does not work.
I'm literally advocating for a complete restrucring of American healthcare. The system that exists today would no longer exist. The inherent issues that come with privatized healthcare (including the greedy companies behind the pharmaceuticals you're concerned about) would leave with it.
>My new ignorant nigger friend, did you actually request a citation you didn't bother to read?
I don't think you read the article or understood my point. Remember how you said "therapy+meds is as effective as acupuncture"? Yeah, how about actually providing evidence for that, therapy included. The article is about poor research methods that lead to dubious overall efficacy. It doesn't claim that SSRIs are just totally ineffective. Which, again, I think SSRIs are not the answer the vast majority of the time, but to dismiss them entirely is retarded.
>Takes time to build up is only a saying people use with anti-depressants.
The fuck? This applies to so much more than anti-depressants. ADHD meds, antischizo meds, antipsychotic meds: these all require you to take them for a while and take them consistently to do much of anything. Unless by "anti-depressants" you mean "psychiatric drugs in general"? Say what you mean, nigger.
>But overall the efficacy of mental health treatment is in the shitter
Because it barely exists, and most people who need it don't have access to it. Access, of course, meaning more than just "bro there's a clinic in your town".
>I don't think it's cause nobody ever thought to go to counseling to talk about their feelings.
You evidently have no idea what counseling or therapy even is. Look up "cognitive behavioral therapy" and "dialectical behavior therapy".
 



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I am willing to bet they just timed the phone data once they had triangulated the location he fired from. The list generated from that wouldn't have been as long as you might think.

That is if they didn't already know.
Talking about that would open the door to unwanted 2000 Mules discussions.
 
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Fair enough. Just wanted to attempt to contribute and I'm not reading all 61 pages of that shit.
Laziest fucking attitude, Do the most basic attempt of seeing where the thread is before you post your literal Facebook tier misinfo garbage you got from your Qanon uncles feed.

This thread has the niggas license plate number to his blood type in the first 10 pages.

Retard.
 
Just because the mental health system is ineffective doesn't mean therapy, medication, or psychiatry should therefore be thrown in the trash. That doesn't make sense. These tools do work, but they're supposed to be used synchronously and on a case-by-case basis. There are times where medication by itself does actually fix the problem, there are many cases where therapy can fix the problem by itself also, there are other times when therapy is impossible without the patient being on medication temporarily, and so on. Newsflash: mental health issues are complicated and addressing them is complicated also. The real problem is bureaucracy.

There's more incentive to prescribe medication and cover your own arse than there is to actually help the problem because that takes a lot of time, or at least more so than the alternative. The same can be said of most government programs designed to 'help'. If you enter the system in any capacity you'll soon recognize the endless cycle of box-ticking, making sure everyone knows work is being done. Before long that in itself becomes the work for many. Mental health professionals are all overworked and the powers that be think throwing more and more money at the problem is going to fix things, just like the education system. All it does is balloon the bureaucracy with very little of it actually making it down to the people who would benefit from it. Government spending should facilitate the creation of things, not enable the government to control the whole system. It's all just about wanting to be in control, the purpose of big government programs is so that the people feel like something is being done about a problem, and the actual outcome doesn't matter as much. The war on drugs, the war on poverty, and so on all with the same problems and people wonder why things seem to only get worse.

Mental health professionals can often get it wrong, it's not algebra or one-size-fits-all. To a certain degree this is to be expected. Outcomes vary widely based on who's administering treatment, and even then sometimes the patient just isn't compatible with it. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater by condemning the tools we have to treat them just because they're being misused, and stop thinking the reason programs fail is because there somehow isn't enough money being burned already.
 
Just because the mental health system is ineffective doesn't mean therapy, medication, or psychiatry should therefore be thrown in the trash. That doesn't make sense. These tools do work, but they're supposed to be used synchronously and on a case-by-case basis. There are times where medication by itself does actually fix the problem, there are many cases where therapy can fix the problem by itself also, there are other times when therapy is impossible without the patient being on medication temporarily, and so on. Newsflash: mental health issues are complicated and addressing them is complicated also. The real problem is bureaucracy.

There's more incentive to prescribe medication and cover your own arse than there is to actually help the problem because that takes a lot of time, or at least more so than the alternative. The same can be said of most government programs designed to 'help'. If you enter the system in any capacity you'll soon recognize the endless cycle of box-ticking, making sure everyone knows work is being done. Before long that in itself becomes the work for many. Mental health professionals are all overworked and the powers that be think throwing more and more money at the problem is going to fix things, just like the education system. All it does is balloon the bureaucracy with very little of it actually making it down to the people who would benefit from it. Government spending should facilitate the creation of things, not enable the government to control the whole system. It's all just about wanting to be in control, the purpose of big government programs is so that the people feel like something is being done about a problem, and the actual outcome doesn't matter as much. The war on drugs, the war on poverty, and so on all with the same problems and people wonder why things seem to only get worse.

Mental health professionals can often get it wrong, it's not algebra or one-size-fits-all. To a certain degree this is to be expected. Outcomes vary widely based on who's administering treatment, and even then sometimes the patient just isn't compatible with it. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater by condemning the tools we have to treat them just because they're being misused, and stop thinking the reason programs fail is because there somehow isn't enough money being burned already.

I take SSRIs (originally Zoloft, Klonopin) and now on Fluvoxamine and ativan, I have to take it for severe anxiety and obsessive compulsive disorder. I also own 4 guns, and a law abiding citizen. The way people make out these medications, I was very hesitant to get treatment or therapy because of the very reason I feared being treated like a 2nd class citizen and being put on a list having my rights taken away. Fortunately HIPPA prevents all kinds of things from being released but my guess is that is why people with PTSD and other issues cant seek help because you can have your drivers license revoked etc.

To be fair, theres a lot of misinformation out there too, just having a mental or psychiatric condition doesnt make someone a violent person or disqualified, many of those are people convicted by a court for reason of insanity or court ordered and commited to a mental institution.

Its not the guns or even mental illness thats the issue, its what the person says and does that makes all the difference.
 
Apparently people interacted with him on documentingreality and he had a child sex doll:
Dude's uncle, who lived with him, saw the child sex doll and was like, "Yeah, this is fine." WTF people! 🙄

This makes more sense now. Probably not kneeling. Probably not an adult.
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after perusing all this, my final word is
"What a fucking loser!"
you have to see his slam poetry vid on social media (don't watch it, it's brain dead lmao)
Whoever mentioned early in the thread that Mass Shewtings may just get played out could be right!
All in all kind of interesting, nowhere near as compelling as EGS... sick the whole way around. People lost their lives for this losers vanity. For nothin!

i have to add he kind of had a good eye for cinematography in some shots. i don't want to give props to him. but just to say that it's too bad that he threw it all away when maybe he could have been just like, an LA artist or something. shit...

PS thank u for the archives, lads. Semper Fi
 
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So I was looking at one of his posts that involved some sort of doll he owned and noticed this box. Is it just me or does that resemble the M&P logo? Comparison photo.

Any possibility an M&P AR was involved or just similar fonts?
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Not the actual gun, just a comparison of the logo from a quick google search.
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So I was looking at one of his posts that involved some sort of doll he owned and noticed this box. Is it just me or does that resemble the M&P logo? Comparison photo.

Any possibility an M&P AR was involved or just similar fonts?
View attachment 3461822actual photo cropped

Not the actual gun, just a comparison of the logo from a quick google search.
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I wonder if S&W can leverage the M&P Sport's frequent involvement in these high-profile shootings for their marketing materials.

"Whether you're defending yourself from a murderous crowd or wanting to do a little murder yourself, the M&P Sport is the most trusted name in basic-bitch ARs. Zoomer tested, Zoomer approved."
 
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