Serious LGBT Discussion

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Stop projecting it's too obvious you're too dumb to be into adults.

Why do you have stake in this if you didn't get off on destroying children before they're old enough to know better?

It literally does though.

How so? Where was this huge wave of suicides before people even KNEW what troonism was?

 

[FeatherPlucker]

Then don't demand anyone else do it either.

Personally? I missed that part.

I'm not going into detail about how something has impacted me personally, as it would expose my identity.

Right now we have alphabet assholes claiming they should be placed in the center of attention regarding ABORTION of all fucking things. Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, THAT in itself is fucking infuriating.

 

[cream pie]

The trans individuals who seem to do best in the long run are HSTS like Blaire White who transition in large part because of their desire to have relationships with straight-ish men who'd be unlikely to be involved with them if they looked more masculine.

Right. How does that not make sense, lol? You seem to understand it well. Hot, smart trannies live advantaged lives. Who cares? I agree that 90% of trannies are fucked up morons who are driving themselves into Hell, but you seem to understand perfectly fine that it's a game of vanity to be played by elites. And you are super upset about it too. Interesting.

 

[Kenya Jones]

Why do you have stake in this if you didn't get off on destroying children before they're old enough to know better?

Because people are destroying the few rights LGBT people have under the guise that it's to protect the kids, when it is very obvious that is not the case.

How so? Where was this huge wave of suicides before people even KNEW what troonism was?

You do realize how hard it is to figure that out, and that makes no sense to the previous statement you made, to which the comment you're responding to was the comment of. It is very easy to take the factors that trans teens who do not get gender affirming treatment have higher rates of suicidal ideation, have higher suicide attempt rates, and higher suicide rates than the general population and to trans teens who get affirming treatment.

I'm not going into detail about how something has impacted me personally, as it would expose my identity.

Right now we have alphabet assholes claiming they should be placed in the center of attention regarding ABORTION of all fucking things. Whether you are pro-choice or pro-life, THAT in itself is fucking infuriating.

Lol, where?

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Because people are destroying the few rights LGBT people have under the guise that it's to protect the kids, when it is very obvious that is not the case.

"Few Rights?"

The LGBBQ cum-munity is the most privileged group in the west. Few other groups can legally punish others for merely criticizing them.

Grooming kids, and using questionable studies bought out by dirty capitalists in big pharma, with no long-term data (and huge numbers of people lost to follow up) to justify it, does not count as a "right."

If anyone is "destroying the few rights LGBTQ people have," it's people like you.

Not even gay marriage would have been called into question were it not for the tendency for you to prey on children, and THAT was questionable enough already.

If you truly cared about "equal rights" and merely being left alone, you would have stopped where you were at least during the aughts or early tens.

 

[cream pie]

Would bet $100 that you don't actually go outside much at all. I just think it's silly for someone to be this upset about a fucking tranny.

 

[Noir drag freak]

I miss when this thread was used for discussion and civil debate about books, media, worries, and expectations about LGBT life by fairly chill LGBs.

We can talk about homosexual culture before 1970s? I have a lot of books and articles, we can talk about.

People who practice alternative lifestyles are infamously insecure about it, even when it's not criminalized, and even when the prevailing culture is relatively tolerant or even accepting of it.

I feel like this is middle class projection. The neuroticism we’re in has to do with the fact that Baby Boomers and every generation since them think they’re rebelling about their parents. Besides, not every homosexual, especially the ones from 1890s to 1950s, are snowflakes about homosexuality. Most of them treated homosexuality and homosexual life as a matter of course. Though, those types tended to be wealthy and more isolated. Which tells me most of the mess that you, gang weeder, Kenya are engaging is Middle Class conformity. The plot twist is that most people tend to live in their own bubbles. For example, why should I care about your opinions besides light hearted discussion? They’re just opinions and your worldview.

 

[Noir drag freak]

I hate this meme because I feel like it's projection on both sides. For one thing, Christians want to spread their belief. So that is one aspect that they will lock out for in other groups. Ironically. I feel that most of the crazy LGBT extremist come from Christian backgrounds. So they have the same dogmatic energy . Another thing, Christians who mention this meme would easily turn into the men on the right if they had institutional power like the LGBTQ movement. They're both annoying.. I'm a heathen sodomite and I don't care for queer ideology. The same people who are telling gays and lesbians to accept trans as partners would have been the same ones inviting people to Bible study. Both sides have a persecution complex.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

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I hate this meme because I feel like it's projection on both sides. For one thing, Christians want to spread their belief. So that is one aspect that they will lock out for in other groups. Ironically. I feel that most of the crazy LGBT extremist come from Christian backgrounds. So they have the same dogmatic energy . Another thing, Christians who mention this meme would easily turn into the men on the right if they had institutional power like the LGBTQ movement. They're both annoying.. I'm a heathen sodomite and I don't care for queer ideology. The same people who are telling gays and lesbians to accept trans as partners would have been the same ones inviting people to Bible study. Both sides have a persecution complex.

A fixed percentage of humanity will always be loud, obnoxious asses who use popular morality to subjugate people, and these people always flock to institutions with power. These are the kinds of people who gleefully snitch on their neighbors for violating fashionable taboos. Thanks to the reach and biases of Silicon Valley and Western banking institutions like BlackRock, right now the drag queen guy is definitely the one wielding the megaphone, but the message is irrelevant, it's all about exerting dominance. Any movement or institution, once it becomes large enough to attract assholes into its ranks, will inevitably become authoritarian and abuse its power. It's a universal constant.

 

[Noir drag freak]

A fixed percentage of humanity will always be loud, obnoxious asses who use popular morality to subjugate people, and these people always flock to institutions with power. These are the kinds of people who gleefully snitch on their neighbors for violating fashionable taboos. Thanks to the reach and biases of Silicon Valley and Western banking institutions like BlackRock, right now the drag queen guy is definitely the one wielding the megaphone, but the message is irrelevant, it's all about exerting dominance. Any movement or institution, once it becomes large enough to attract assholes into its ranks, will inevitably become authoritarian and abuse its power. It's a universal constant.

I also felt hardcore atheist make for hardcore Christian and vice verse. What personality type creates such people?

 

[Picnic_Boy]

I also felt hardcore atheist make for hardcore Christian and vice verse. What personality type creates such people?

There's got to be a more accurate label, but I'm going to just blame autism because it's funny.

 

[gang weeder]

Because people are destroying the few rights LGBT people have under the guise that it's to protect the kids, when it is very obvious that is not the case.

What rights? Gay marriage is still """constitutionally protected""" and it'll probably take another 50 year slog to get that overturned like with Roe, if it's ever accomplished at all. What "LGBT rights" could you possibly complain are under any real threat? Don't get me wrong, part of me wants it to be true that somebody is coming for them, but you're gonna have to lay it out for me.

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I hate this meme because I feel like it's projection on both sides. For one thing, Christians want to spread their belief. So that is one aspect that they will lock out for in other groups. Ironically. I feel that most of the crazy LGBT extremist come from Christian backgrounds. So they have the same dogmatic energy . Another thing, Christians who mention this meme would easily turn into the men on the right if they had institutional power like the LGBTQ movement. They're both annoying.. I'm a heathen sodomite and I don't care for queer ideology. The same people who are telling gays and lesbians to accept trans as partners would have been the same ones inviting people to Bible study. Both sides have a persecution complex.

There is a lot of truth to the statement that whoever has power ultimately gets to be the bully. Right now, the fags have the power, so they get to be the bully. Christians don't, and might never again--if they ever get it back, it'll take generations at this point, most of us will be old fucks in nursing homes by then if we're still around at all.

 

[Kenya Jones]

What rights? Gay marriage is still """constitutionally protected""" and it'll probably take another 50 year slog to get that overturned like with Roe, if it's ever accomplished at all. What "LGBT rights" could you possibly complain are under any real threat? Don't get me wrong, part of me wants it to be true that somebody is coming for them, but you're gonna have to lay it out for me.

You know there are hundreds of proposed anti-LGBT laws this year alone. There's even a tracker for them.

 

[HERHERHERHER]

You know there are hundreds of proposed anti-LGBT laws this year alone. There's even a tracker for them.

So yes, most of those bills aren’t anti LGBT, just anti gender ideology. Boohoo they’re restricting rights for trannies. So no need to panic unless you’re a man trying to force his way into women’s spaces, a groomer trying to talk to kids about sex or persuading them to Troon out. The rest of the LGB are good. Trannies shouldn’t have tried to force people into accepting their ideology, then they wouldn’t be getting this hate would they.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

So yes, most of those bills aren’t anti LGBT, just anti gender ideology. Boohoo they’re restricting rights for trannies. So no need to panic unless you’re a man trying to force his way into women’s spaces, a groomer trying to talk to kids about sex or persuading them to Troon out. The rest of the LGB are good. Trannies shouldn’t have tried to force people into accepting their ideology, then they wouldn’t be getting this hate would they.

You don't understand, if troons aren't allowed to groom, or even fuck kids, both the troons and the kiddies will die, don'tcha know.

 

[HERHERHERHER]

You don't understand, if troons aren't allowed to groom, or even fuck kids, both the troons and the kiddies will die, don'tcha know.

That’ll explain it, they’re just thinking of the kiddos. They’re so selfless. I think their obsession with trooning out kids is that without a new generation, their movement will die out. I think it was WPATH or ACT who came clean in a manifesto stating they needed kids to Troon out as it’s harder for adults to say no to kids, and most adults will accede to kids demands if it’s ‘impacting their mental health’.

 

[Vril-Dame vom Aldebaran]

That’ll explain it, they’re just thinking of the kiddos. They’re so selfless. I think their obsession with trooning out kids is that without a new generation, their movement will die out. I think it was WPATH or ACT who came clean in a manifesto stating they needed kids to Troon out as it’s harder for adults to say no to kids, and most adults will accede to kids demands if it’s ‘impacting their mental health’.

The troon cult MUST recruit new members periodically, because they need more troons to validate their own choice of trooning out (if nobody else does it, and most of your existing troon friends neck themselves, you end up being the last surviving troon and at that point you will have serious doubts about the validity of your life choices). They also have a fetish for inflicting the disgusting shit they do to their bodies on other people. And finally, a lot of them are simply pedos.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

That’ll explain it, they’re just thinking of the kiddos. They’re so selfless. I think their obsession with trooning out kids is that without a new generation, their movement will die out. I think it was WPATH or ACT who came clean in a manifesto stating they needed kids to Troon out as it’s harder for adults to say no to kids, and most adults will accede to kids demands if it’s ‘impacting their mental health’.

Indeed. Full grown adults (and even adolescents) aren't stupid enough to be misled into believing that guys can become girls, or vice versa, so they have to be bullied into it.

Kids will believe anything, on the other hand, which is why troons are so obsessed with them.

If cutting off access to children will make troons go extinct, I'm all for it. Society can do just fine without people who are willfully confused about immutable characteristics about themselves, like their sex/gender. Fewer people who spaz out when people refuse to validate them.

As much as they whine about "cisnormitivity" and "heteronormitivity," those two things are objectively good things. You'd have to be just as insane as a troon itself to believe that it's a bad thing that the vast majority of people accept what's hardwired into every fibre of their being and don't mutilate themselves over it, or larp as the opposite sex or some alien hermaphrodite/eunuch.

You'd also have to be insane to think it's a bad thing that heterosexuality is the default option, or that homosexuality isn't disordered in some way. Again, if more than a very small minority of people were LGB, society would collapse due to it being much more difficult to keep their population from imploding.

It's downright retarded to celebrate homosexuality when it cannot, and will never, carry society the same way heterosexuality does. Even sterile heterosexual couples can contribute more than homosexuals can, two parental role models of both sexes to any child they adopt.

Even if it's true that what happens in the bedroom between two consenting adults is none of my business, it's also true that they have to ensure it does not become my business. That's already true for straight people, but especially true for homosexuals, since it's an alternative lifestyle.

 

[Kenya Jones]

So yes, most of those bills aren’t anti LGBT, just anti gender ideology. Boohoo they’re restricting rights for trannies. So no need to panic unless you’re a man trying to force his way into women’s spaces, a groomer trying to talk to kids about sex or persuading them to Troon out. The rest of the LGB are good. Trannies shouldn’t have tried to force people into accepting their ideology, then they wouldn’t be getting this hate would they.

First of all, what do you think the T in LGBT stands for? Second of all, you are delusional and think that the only rights being taken from trans (or hell, gay people, since this argument is a hundred years old) people is the right to "groom". See what I find funny is that gay/lesbian teachers in Florida are being told to put away the pictures on their desks of their partners, since just knowing the existence of LGBT people is a threat to you people.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

First of all, what do you think the T in LGBT stands for? Second of all, you are delusional and think that the only rights being taken from trans (or hell, gay people, since this argument is a hundred years old) people is the right to "groom". See what I find funny is that gay/lesbian teachers in Florida are being told to put away the pictures on their desks of their partners, since just knowing the existence of LGBT people is a threat to you people.

Even if that were true, only for early Elementary school, lmao.

You wouldn't be sperging out about the Florida law if you weren't a pedophile.

That's probably why the bill was so weak in the first place, because we KNEW you would sperg out about not being able to groom very young children, even though early adolescents are still fair game to you.