General GunTuber thread

[Lupo Akane]

They could come up with something better then just calling peeps basement dwellers..........
The go to for stupid ass people in companies or closet Nazis that like tranny cocks.

 

[Shaka Brah]

They could come up with something better then just calling peeps basement dwellers..........
The go to for stupid ass people in companies or closet Nazis that like tranny cocks.

It's how you tell the vet bro facade is just a facade. They use the same language as the average leftoid grifter.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Wasn't there a guy at the first Finnish Brutality who won the Kasarda Drill stage but he was throwing with a twisting sideways motion and fucked his shoulder?

At the 2019 event there were 3 injuries due to sideways throws that I am aware of. Since we mandated the between the legs swing method there have not been any.

It takes most people 7-11 throws to cover the distance.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

At the 2019 event there were 3 injuries due to sideways throws that I am aware of. Since we mandated the between the legs swing method there have not been any.

It takes most people 7-11 throws to cover the distance.

Thanks for the info, I recall hearing about that but wasn't 100%.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

If you guys really want to get into actual combat effective shape, look up the book Corps Strength by Paul J. Roarke. It's $14 on Amazon and based on real tried and true shit vs. whatever the fuck Karl and Phagan preach to retard couch commandos who think they're going to be some kind of Snake Plissken in DA BOOG just because they put on their Condor plate carrier to throw around a kettle bell.

I cannot empathize enough how much a good, nutritious diet and actual proven exercise / work out concepts improve your health over this fad bullshit of running around in full battle rattle.

Pretty good book, just read it. The guy has a pull-up fetish, as do all Marines. His diet advice is a traditional high carb low fat affair. I prefer more protein and beans to be my main carb, this guy likes his grains. His advice on interlacing sets of exercises is well taken.

 

[Puff]

Ye Olde Guntuber Nutnfancy did a review of the WWSD

Results, upper is approved, trigger is great, that fucking slop on the takedown pins is horrifying, lower is meh. Fine but not $1700 fine.

 

[Antarctica]

Ye Olde Guntuber Nutnfancy did a review of the WWSD

Results, upper is approved, trigger is great, that fucking slop on the takedown pins is horrifying, lower is meh. Fine but not $1700 fine.

Pretty good synopsis imo. For $8-900 it would be allot better deal and allot of the complaints would become a non-issue for most. I actually never realized that the lower itself is only $100..

 

[TiggerNits]

Pretty good book, just read it. The guy has a pull-up fetish, as do all Marines. His diet advice is a traditional high carb low fat affair. I prefer more protein and beans to be my main carb, this guy likes his grains. His advice on interlacing sets of exercises is well taken.

Pull ups with leg lifts are when you know you're a hard charger, man. I still can't force myself to do a pull up more than 20 years after the fact without bringing my knees up to my belly button. That said, just swim. If you're doing laps, dives or throwing children in the pool as far as you can, you're getting a better workout than 80% of the people trying to destroy their joints at a Crossfit gym

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Ye Olde Guntuber Nutnfancy did a review of the WWSD

Results, upper is approved, trigger is great, that fucking slop on the takedown pins is horrifying, lower is meh. Fine but not $1700 fine.

LittleFancy is a mirror image of his spergy dad, creepy facial expressions and dead stare included, and it's funny as hell to see them railing on it starting with the A2 birdcage.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Pretty good synopsis imo. For $8-900 it would be allot better deal and allot of the complaints would become a non-issue for most. I actually never realized that the lower itself is only $100..

I think I paid $80 for my lower. If you want a lightweight fuck-around rifle, it's a pretty great starting point.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Ye Olde Guntuber Nutnfancy did a review of the WWSD

Results, upper is approved, trigger is great, that fucking slop on the takedown pins is horrifying, lower is meh. Fine but not $1700 fine.

I no longer have the patience to watch Nutn and laugh at his idiocy, can I get the Cliffnotes?

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Pretty good synopsis imo. For $8-900 it would be allot better deal and allot of the complaints would become a non-issue for most. I actually never realized that the lower itself is only $100..

I end up posting this same comment on every one of these 3rd party reviews with people mad about the price. With the components it includes it cannot have a lower MSRP, have the mark up built in for Brownells, and pay FET.

“For the people complaining about the price.

The price of the rifle is literally the MSRP of all the components added together. $350 handguard, $220 trigger, $300 bolt group etc. 11% of the sale price of complete rifles immediately goes to the feds as FET.

Yes you can build you own rifle cheaper by shopping for deals and not paying FET on components purchased separately.

Stripped lowers are $110 MSRP
Milspec lowers are $200 MSRP

1100 WWSD 2020 rifles were produced and Brownells is down to under 100 in Inventory.
They are currently on sale for $1500.

~30,000 KP-15 lowers have been sold to date.”

And this is what a $600 rifle looks like: https://kearms.americommerce.com/KP-1516-m4-barrel.aspx
The most basic components we make, sold direct without distributor tiered pricing built into the cost.

 

[Rent Tin]

Seems as time goes on the consensus on the WWSD seems to lean towards more and more towards "It's okay, but not worth it at the price point". If the manufacturer couldn't get the cost down to the point where people felt like their purchase was worth it, then it will just go the way of many products through the years that ended up being too expensive for not enough benefit.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Seems as time goes on the consensus on the WWSD seems to lean towards more and more towards "It's okay, but not worth it at the price point". If the manufacturer couldn't get the cost down to the point where people felt like their purchase was worth it, then it will just go the way of many products through the years that ended up being too expensive for not enough benefit.

Realistically it was a limited production run product for InRange’s audience. It is not a mass marketable product because of the price point dictated by all the premium parts included in it.

The KP-15 receiver, SLT triggers, Carbon Fiber handguards, etc are. People have built their own WWSDs and WWSD inspired guns in far higher numbers than the complete rifles that were sold.

 

[Antarctica]

I end up posting this same comment on every one of these 3rd party reviews with people mad about the price. With the components it includes it cannot have a lower MSRP, have the mark up built in for Brownells, and pay FET.

“For the people complaining about the price.

The price of the rifle is literally the MSRP of all the components added together. $350 handguard, $220 trigger, $300 bolt group etc. 11% of the sale price of complete rifles immediately goes to the feds as FET.

Yes you can build you own rifle cheaper by shopping for deals and not paying FET on components purchased separately.

Stripped lowers are $110 MSRP
Milspec lowers are $200 MSRP

1100 WWSD 2020 rifles were produced and Brownells is down to under 100 in Inventory.
They are currently on sale for $1500.

~30,000 KP-15 lowers have been sold to date.”

And this is what a $600 rifle looks like: https://kearms.americommerce.com/KP-1516-m4-barrel.aspx
The most basic components we make, sold direct without distributor tiered pricing built into the cost.

Obviously I get that, you've gotta make your own shekels from the deal.. But no matter what, some people will always feel like it would be allot better deal at $8-900.

If I bought a shitty clapped out 94' Toyota Corolla with a bunch of problems for $5,000, I would constantly be whining and complaining about the problems, but if it only cost $800 those problems wouldn't be as big of a deal..

 

[Antarctica]

I think I paid $80 for my lower. If you want a lightweight fuck-around rifle, it's a pretty great starting point.

I honestly don't think I could buy one without getting Karl's face lazar engraved on the side, with the caption "What Would Karl's Bull Do" aka WWKBD.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Obviously I get that, you've gotta make your own shekels from the deal.. But no matter what, some people will always feel like it would be allot better deal at $8-900.

The bill of materials in the complete WWSD rifle is more than $900. If we were to retail them direct at $1300, we’d make ~$100 after paying for the BOM and FET. And a rifle without all these parts and features is not the WWSD as endorsed by InRange.

The rifles were not a profit center. They were the attention getter to sell thousands of lowers, triggers, and other parts.

 

[Antarctica]

The bill of materials in the complete WWSD rifle is more than $900. If we were to retail them direct at $1300, we’d make ~$100 after paying for the BOM and FET. And a rifle without all these parts and features is not the WWSD as endorsed by InRange.

The rifles were not a profit center. They were the attention getter to sell thousands of lowers, triggers, and other parts.

I'm not trying to argue with you chief. You could sell the fucker for $4,000 and retards would probably still buy it because of the WWSD Marketing.

 

[HumptiDouji]

Seems as time goes on the consensus on the WWSD seems to lean towards more and more towards "It's okay, but not worth it at the price point".

For the rifle, perhaps, but to me the lower seems worth it if you wanna build as light as you can. Ounces make pounds and all. Maybe I'll try something out one day.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Ye Olde Guntuber Nutnfancy did a review of the WWSD

Results, upper is approved, trigger is great, that fucking slop on the takedown pins is horrifying, lower is meh. Fine but not $1700 fine.

Alright I decided to bite the bullet and actually watch the stupid thing.

Spoiler: WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS

>so Nutn starts out being retarded by pointing out a patch he has on his jacket and asking if we can see what it says, as he does this the patch is literally being covered up by a bunch of post production text and then after he says the patch says "WWNFD (What Would NutnFancy Do?)
>Jesus fuck I forgot what a faggot this guy sounds like
>Nutn claims that he would typically "make it lighter" when it comes to gear. I do remember that being one of the things I mocked him for ten years ago when I watched him to laugh, but he says this without a hint of irony as he's holding the rifle that he's decked out with a massive heavy looking magnified optic and a superfluous VFG.
>I don't know who this Special Education kid he has with him is but he's retarded.
>Nutn performs a reload, he inserts a loaded mag into the rifle's magazine well on a closed bolt, he then operates the charging handle and a live round comes out of the chamber, Nutn proceeds to stare at this live round for a few fractions of a second as it spins through the air, he is clearly surprised that the chamber was not clear on the rifle he is holding.
>He's talking about how he's "doing the work for his viewers" and being a "consumer advocate" and that he "stands behind all the products he reviews" and as he's saying this I realize that the scope on his rifle is not only a Nikon but also appears to be a 3-9x and still has all the manufacturer stickers still on it. So it's good to see that Nutn is still just as poor as I remember and still doesn't actually use his equipment.
>We have reached the one minute mark
>Seriously who the fuck is this spergy rent boy? He's worse than Nutn somehow.
>I seriously had to skip forward to the five minute mark before the actual review got going, nice to Nutn is still the same long winded faggot he was a decade ago.
>Nutn zeroes his gun from a lead sled, what a faggot.
>I'm at the seven minute mark and they still haven't started actually reviewing the rifle.
>Nutn, Mr "Ounces equals pounds" himself starts talking about how the gun is too light because "the lighter it is the harder it is to shoot" and he "doesn't need a four pound rifle" as if the 5.56 has serious recoil or something. I think Nutn shouldn't be such a noodle armed little faggot and get a better optic but I'm not an elite tier zero sheepdawg.
>"The ammo is too heavy" Nigger what?
>"I wouldn't run it as a competition gun because it's polymer and a competition gun would have thousands and thousands of rounds put through it." Does this dumb nigger watch any of the creator's channels? There's plenty of video footage of the WWSD rifles getting thousands of rounds put through them at competition and doing fine.
>He complains that they're putting an A2 Birdcage on the rifle, "A $1700 rifle should not have a BUDGET muzzle device!" The A2 Birdcage is the gold standard for a reason man, it's light and compact while providing both a solid flash hider and a solid comp that doesn't just kick dust everywhere. Literally nothing wrong with it. But Nutn is serious big boy angry over this because he's a fucking gear queer.
>He's literally complaining that 1.8 inches is too fat for a handguard. Apparently he takes umbrage with this because "that's too fat for a semi auto SPORTIN-GING RIFLE!" and a handguard that thick is only good for full-auto fire.
>The rent boy disagrees and takes the more sensible stance that it isn't too thick and that a thick handguard can give you a more substantial grip
>I don't know why this matters in the first place since they're using a VFG with no C-Clamp anyways and so the thickness of the handguard literally doesn't matter for their grip, and even a manlet such as myself has no issues with wrapping my hands around a 1.8 inch wide foregrip.
>Now he's complaining about how slick the carbon fiber is and saying that you need skateboard tape to fix the lack of grip on the handguard but then says that you wouldn't want to cover the holes for ventilation. He says the VFG is "mandatory".
>Suddenly I remember why I can't even laugh at Nutn anymore.
>He's citing Brownell's reviews as legitimate sources of information. You would have to be even more retarded than the retards that leave those reviews to do this.
>He hates the polymer lower for being polymer, he also apparently never watched or read any of the development logs from KEArms about the manufacturing process of that lower since he once again bitches about the price, and he hates the lack of adjustability.
>Nutn is such a fucking boomer, he's bitching about the polymer buttpad on the KEArms lower but he doesn't seem to realize that milspec buttpads for the M16/AR15 have been polymer for a long time. He's literally just bitching about "muh' plastic!"
>He thinks the oblong sling cutout is an MLOK slot
>He bitches about how the QD swivel mount doesn't come with a QD swivel, as if any other AR with QD mounts does.
>They literally say that the KEArms lower is the same manufacturing and material quality as an original Carbon-15, which is patently untrue.
>He complains that he had a lot of light primer strikes but then admits that they were using steel ammo, which tells me he was using the cheapest ratshit ammo he could buy, because he's Nutn and he hasn't changed at all in over a decade.
>He shows the primers to the camera, they don't look like they've been hit by a light strike, they look like they were shitty stiff primers in shitty steel case.
>"It's an EXPENSIVE RIFLE! IT SHOULD SHOOT! IT!"
>Nutn keeps reminding us what a poor he is.
>This is all at about the 17 minute mark.
>Complains about the non captive pins, in all fairness this is a legitimate complaint but the fact that Nutn says it makes me think that it isn't a problem at all.
>Nutn throughout the entire video just waves shit right in front of the camera without waiting for it to adjust and so the things he wants to demonstrate are always blurry.
>I'm sure he wouldn't have an issue with these pins if he had a G3 in his hands, non captive pins never seem to be an issue on those.
>Of course he likes the captive spring and buffer, that thing's right up his alley.
>He bitches that there's wiggle between the upper and lower, even claims he's "never seen an AR like that" which is first off fucking bullshit and second off not an issue.
>He likes the BCG and the charging handle.
>The one thing they will not stop bringing up is the $1700 price tag, because Nutn is poor and will never not be.
>I'm skipping ahead at this point because the review is basically over anyways.
>They admit that the ammo used was Red Army Standard, no surprise they had ammo failures.
>Admits that when they gave it brass it was 100%, so obviously the issue isn't the rifle, but they insist it is.
>He was getting about 3MOA groups with Red Army Standard and he calls the accuracy "average".
>He's comparing the rifle to a 2A Armament rifle that he has a much better optic on to say that the gun is inaccurate and he blames this inaccuracy on the polymer lower.
>Personally I think he's just a shit shot.
>I can't bring myself to watch the rest.

To give you a bit of a TL;DR: Nutnfancy is the same retarded and poor niggerfaggot that he was ten years ago and he continues to slave under the delusion that the end of days scenario he envisions which is so bad that basic amenities, spare parts, and quality ammo will be impossible to find will also leave behind enough infrastructure to allow him to operate a gun and a vehicle at all for long enough for any of those things to actually matter. He's totally hung up on the polymer without understanding that the lower is not the issue. He's totally ignorant of InRange, FW, and Sinistral and all the DevLogs that went into this rifle. And he's a ratchet ass poor who bitches that a gun which costs less than $2000 is expensive because he lives in poverty.

Seriously hats off to you @SinistralRifleman I would not have the patience to run your business when retards like Nutn are running around, I don't know how you resist the urge to breaks their heads in with a rock.

Edited just to fix some spelling and add on a thought I had reading everything back to myself; I hate Hop for the same reason I hate Nutn. They're both incredible gear fags to the point where they get so focused on the gimmick that they end up missing the forest for the trees. They focus down so hard on one single little nitpick or they get so hyper focused on "THIS ISN'T THE ABSOLUTE BEST THING EVER AND THEREFORE IT IS TOTAL SHIT" that they miss the actual qualities behind what they're reviewing or talking about.