Horrorcow Hollie Dance / Lisa Pittaway / Ella Carter / Archie Battersbee / Lauren Summers/ Dignity For All / Archie's Army / Spread The Purple Wave - The Mama Nails of Essex, Her Whiteknights, and Her A-Logs

[3holeDonkeyPunch]

This is some truly ghoulish shit. I can't imagine how I'd act if one of my kids decided to become an hero, but hopefully not like this.

 

[Noah Boddy]

Some of Archie's Army want to go protest outside of the hospital or court.



Also these filtered images are cringe

 

[Treasure Champs]

Maybe I'm imagining it wrong, but I'm picturing the banister as being a waist-high wall with wooden dowels that leads to a staircase. If Archie tied the cord to the top railing and made it short enough, it's possible she could have reached down from the second floor and grabbed him under the arms to hoist back over.

But if he attached the cord to the wooden dowels so it was anchored at the bottom of the banister, she would have only been able to reach a couple of feet and maybe touch his head.

So the way I pictured it is that if she approached from the top bedroom and found him, she could either pull up on the cord to get him up or grab him by the head, both of which would cause more injuries. If she came home from the bottom floor and found him hanging, she would only be able to reach his waist or so. The smart thing to do would be to get a ladder and hold him while you cut the cord, but if no ladder is available, I think cutting the cord and letting him fall feet first would be better than pulling on the cord or body and tightening the knot. But I guess it doesn't matter cause he prob would be just as dead regardless.

I wouldn't try to make it make sense. Not only has her story changed ten times, not one version is complete and comprehensible. She originally claimed he was hanging by a dressing gown cord which she 'snapped' with her hands to make him fall the 8 feet. In some versions she was in the house, later she was out and came home to find him.

It is very possible that only she will ever know what's really true.

 

[Wine em Dine em 69 em]

Some of Archie's Army want to go protest outside of the hospital or court.

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Also these filtered images are cringe
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This Joyce lady with the Archie Times Square photo tribute post needs to log off and sober up. Good god.
And this is a very minor peeve, but why do these ladies always post directly to Archie it’s an empty gesture and reads like a creepy old granny. Gross.
Hang on (oops) I’ll give it a try.
Come on Archie darling, keep doing everything you can do to help your body die and end this nightmare so your mom and her weird fans can stop exploiting your corpse, hugs and

 

[Any Fucker]

That juxtaposition is...unfortunate...

 

[Aib Ld]

Possibly stupid question that is probably answered already: Why can't the staff just up and go "alright your kid is dead, put him in a funeral's home at this point"? He's brain dead, he's dead, the machines confirmed, and he's rotting for months at this point. I'm not sure if the hospital is just putting her as 'grieving mother, hell hath no fury' or what, but this thread is just painful to read that I started using the Highlights feature halfway through.
Would there even be a hospital bill after all this?

 

[Carpe Jugulum]

Possibly stupid question that is probably answered already: Why can't the staff just up and go "alright your kid is dead, put him in a funeral's home at this point"? He's brain dead, he's dead, the machines confirmed, and he's rotting for months at this point. I'm not sure if the hospital is just putting her as 'grieving mother, hell hath no fury' or what, but this thread is just painful to read that I started using the Highlights feature halfway through.
Would there even be a hospital bill after all this?

A) if they could just turn him off there wouldn’t be a court case
B) we don’t get hospital bills here in the UK, the NHS is free at point of use and paid for through taxation (not as grim as it sounds). The only things you pay for is your dentist (NHS ones are cheaper), your prescriptions (set price per item £9.35 with hospital ones mostly being free) and the optician (set price for eye test).

Edit: words

 

[Kirajyu]

Maybe I'm imagining it wrong, but I'm picturing the banister as being a waist-high wall with wooden dowels that leads to a staircase. If Archie tied the cord to the top railing and made it short enough, it's possible she could have reached down from the second floor and grabbed him under the arms to hoist back over.

But if he attached the cord to the wooden dowels so it was anchored at the bottom of the banister, she would have only been able to reach a couple of feet and maybe touch his head.

So the way I pictured it is that if she approached from the top bedroom and found him, she could either pull up on the cord to get him up or grab him by the head, both of which would cause more injuries. If she came home from the bottom floor and found him hanging, she would only be able to reach his waist or so. The smart thing to do would be to get a ladder and hold him while you cut the cord, but if no ladder is available, I think cutting the cord and letting him fall feet first would be better than pulling on the cord or body and tightening the knot. But I guess it doesn't matter cause he prob would be just as dead regardless.

Here is an example of the houses in their area hallway. (Relatively sure this is the correct orientation as well)

However I was not able to find internal photos of the council houses (built between 2007-2009) that they live in. I would imagine this is relatively accurate though.

 

[Dance For Us]

About time, 48hrs and then she'll have no choice but to finally bury her son's corpse which should of been done months ago.
No more pointlessly keeping organs alive inside the body of a dead child. Jesus christ. Hope they send her to therapy as well, psycho.

 

[repentance]

Possibly stupid question that is probably answered already: Why can't the staff just up and go "alright your kid is dead, put him in a funeral's home at this point"? He's brain dead, he's dead, the machines confirmed, and he's rotting for months at this point.

She went to court to stop them from doing that. Normally families can quickly be convinced to accept that there is no hope of recovery (think of how often you read that someone is on life support and only days later it is withdrawn) and they agree to withdrawal of care.

The hospital isn't choosing to indulge her. They are following orders of the court.

 

[Niuhp]

The British press makes Kiwifarms look like the height of professional journalism. There's no way they're not ready to swing into action once it's all over. The story is just too juicy and there's still the inquest to come.

Not really been following this until I clicked the thread, but yeah the press will be waiting for something to happen with the money (like she fucks off to Ibiza for a month) before they pounce. They know they have to play it cool while everything is above board and especially while the kid is still 'alive' (plus a probable grace period of a few weeks after they pull the plug).

There's nothing the British tabloids love more than an opportunity to come down hard on a trashy chavvy woman like Hollie, especially when there's child endangerment and sexual impropriety playing such obvious parts. Like someone said above, they're waiting for Archie to be out of the picture. Once he's in the ground, his decaying corpse can't be an emotional shield for any incoming criticism or revelations.

 

[Quack_Quack]

Hollie's saying to ignore all news and even the court transcripts. It is feeling like a cult more and more with the info restrictions and blind support.
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Of course she is! She's been lying since the start and constantly changing her story. She's trying to seed doubt to keep claims of perjury away.

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Bingo! Looks like her lovely barrister has used the emotive qualities and manipulated her into believing what he does. He is anti after all.

But thered be no bullying if she got off the internet and paid attention to her kids for once

@GenociderSyo, apologies but I can't quote your post directly.

"There was secondary spinal cord damage."

Hmm, well that's incredibly interesting. Would a medifag be able to explain if hanging can cause a secondary spinal cord injury to that extent (I suppose, if the ligature was clumsily placed at the top of his spinal cord as he fell)? Or did Hollie really "cut him down" from the eight foot drop? Because I feel as if, even given the initial drop from the bannister, it wouldn't necessarily be enough force to damage his spine to that degree. But I'm not medically trained so perhaps I am wrong.

Even the court judgements note that asphyxiation is likely to be the primary cause of his brain death, so he would have suffocated to death-ish, not snapped his neck and suffered paralysis. To me, the initial hanging doesn't indicate enough force to cause a spinal injury of that volume.

If true, because this story changes like the weather, who in their right mind would cut the ligature off their hanging child and let them drop eight feet? Surely, as a mother, your first instinct would be to drag your child back over the railings, not faff around with finding an object sharp enough to cut the ligature.

Shit isn't adding up and more alarm bells are starting to ring by the second. I'm not saying that she killed Archie, the kid was clearly depressed, but something isn't right.

Edit: I'm a moron and have just realised that his spinal cord injury may be related to his brain herniating into his upper spinal cord after arriving at the hospital. If this is the case, please ignore my autistic take

The spinal cord damage was probably due to the coning of the brain into it and also where the necrotic brain tissue sloughed off and settled in his lumbar region.

Also, according to medical evidence from May onwards, kiddo was brain stem dead from at least mid April. So shes been hanging onto a corpse for a good three months. Its been known he's brain stem dead by the medical team due to the diabetes insipidus which occurs when the brain and digestive system can't talk. He's on vasopressins to simulate what his brain would normally do, and his whole existence hinges on constant testing to balance everything so he doesn't melt into the bed. The Dr's have repeatedly told her the damage was much more severe and even the MRIs were a risk as there was a chance he'd code in the machine.

Not to mention the high probability it was 40 minutes he was without oxygen, and the extensive damage on the initial MRI shows this. That's why he's degraded so rapidly, he was without oxygen for too damn long.

She needs to let him go, but either she won't or can't under some delusion he'll do a Jesus and get up again. Highly unlikely since as soon as those machines and medications are off, it'll be a rapid move to a coroner before he disintegrates further

 

[repentance]

Hollie's saying to ignore all news and even the court transcripts. It is feeling like a cult more and more with the info restrictions and blind support.

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I can see her trying to turn this into a career after Archie is dead and buried.

 

[GenociderSyo]

She needs to let him go, but either she won't or can't under some delusion he'll do a Jesus and get up again. Highly unlikely since as soon as those machines and medications are off, it'll be a rapid move to a coroner before he disintegrates further

Rather sure shes just enjoying the fame and money from the grifting.

 

[Quack_Quack]

Rather sure shes just enjoying the fame and money from the grifting.

Oh for sure! The religion is there as a front so she can scam more people. Like an American megachurch but shit

 

[HeinzBeanz]

Here is an example of the houses in their area hallway. (Relatively sure this is the correct orientation as well)

However I was not able to find internal photos of the council houses (built between 2007-2009) that they live in. I would imagine this is relatively accurate though.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the visual- I was imagining a second floor "deck" if you will. My point still stands that it would be hard to reach enough of his body to lift him up and take him down if he was indeed dangling from the top without a ladder. Unless he didn't leave much space between the two knots (and if that's the case, then he prob would have been able to reach and hoist himself up once he couldn't breathe, if it was true he didn't break his neck immediately- he was a gymnast who seemed to have some upper body strength)

 

[repentance]

Rather sure shes just enjoying the fame and money from the grifting.

She's not going to enjoy the inquest.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Is the child actually stoned in this picture? I've never seen pupils like this in a person not doped up on serious serious amounts of opioids.

 

[GENERAL MAO]

She's not going to enjoy the inquest.

child looks fine to me

 

[PotatoSalad4711]

Is the child actually stoned in this picture? I've never seen pupils like this in a person not doped up on serious serious amounts of opioids.
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I don’t think it’s drugs, but he does look odd in this photo. Like half asleep and annoyed. I was honestly wondering why they keep using it.