Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

[Stinkyboy]

Would you tattoo someone’s name if you thought, even for a second, that person might be in the news for a sex crime? Or many?

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

So in looking for Lucas’s mom’s post I discovered that his mom 1. Has sleeve tats and 2. Has Seth’s name and her stepdaughter’s name but not Lucas’s…

The puppy picture shows the name clearly. Not other photos show lack of matching photos for Lucas.

Edit to avoid double posting: I’m wondering if the fact that mom didn’t tattoo his name is why he’s so anti-tattoos and wants people to prove they love him by body mutilation (the UK teen). That would all be unconscious but I wonder.

She has the crazy eyes.

Also, what mother tattoos 1 kids name and not all? Are you TRYING to create sibling rivalry? So much for her story of "loving him so much and wondering if she'd ever be able love that much again".

(Maybe she has "Lucas" tattooed on her ass)

 

[TurdFondler]

If anyone ever wondered where he got it from



If you account for the mirror selfie their heads are tilting the same way...

 

[WonderWino]

Everything about that woman screams low IQ mental case. Covered in hoodrat tattoos, psycho eyes and body language and like lucas tries to post everything she does to brag and make others jealous. No doubt at all lucas inherited his crazy from her. I get the feeling myrna is going to cause all kinds of problems in whatever shithole mexican nursing home they put her in when she starts spazzing out. and she will soon enough. She'll be lucky to have a couple years of relative coherence before the pants shitting and screaming starts

That said it says alot that she went so far as to have a stepchild's name tattoo put on her but not lucas's. She knows exactly what he is and wouldn't do that unless she expected it was more likely than not that he gets caught doing something horrifying sooner or later. Not surprising considering how squirrely she gets whenever she is confronted with any of his behavior

I wonder if lucas even knows about her dementia diagnosis yet, I also if shes going to start saying shit about him when she starts losing her ability to keep her mouth shut about things. You'd be shocked at some of the things i've heard come out of the mouths of dementia patients. Myrna wandering the hallway in some seedy mexican nursing home ranting like a loon about how its not in the cards for her pedo son to get an underage girl pregnant would be fucking gold. Especially if somebody got concerned about where that stuff came from, called the cops and it ended with them showing up at mallon place looking to get ahold of his phone. Not a particularly likely scenario but you never know and it would be a fitting end and a final fuck you from his mother

But yeah, if he somehow outlasts his parents, his reaction to being ignored when they die will be very interesting. Not to mention at that point he won't have any safety net at all the next time he gets catfished somewhere and gets trapped in some strange city, unwashed and without money or any knowledge of the area

 

[IceQueen]

So in looking for Lucas’s mom’s post I discovered that his mom 1. Has sleeve tats and 2. Has Seth’s name and her stepdaughter’s name but not Lucas’s…

The puppy picture shows the name clearly. Not other photos show lack of matching photos for Lucas.

Edit to avoid double posting: I’m wondering if the fact that mom didn’t tattoo his name is why he’s so anti-tattoos and wants people to prove they love him by body mutilation (the UK teen). That would all be unconscious but I wonder.

Interesting about his mom having Seth’s name tattooed but not his! I didn’t know that. However I don’t think that’s why Lucas is against tattoos. He has told lots of people over time about tattoos he wants, Lucas is just FAR too much of a pussy to ever get one and could never afford them (both of which he has actually admitted himself), so he views tattoos the same way he views cars — he cannot afford a car and also driving would scare him even if he somehow managed to get a license because of how horrible of a driver he was when his dad tried to teach him (he drove his dad’s truck through a freaking fire).

I’m honestly not even sure if Lucas KNOWS that Myrna has some of the family’s names tattooed but not his. He’s so self-absorbed I wouldn’t put it past him to not have noticed, and if he does know it seems like the kind of thing he would have publicly talked about. Regardless, I don’t think that’s where his “hatred” of tattoos comes from, I think he actually likes tattoos on men OR women (he said that he likes “tasteful tattoos” on women in his Attractive Qualities in Women video he made a few years back), but tattoos are just yet another thing HE can never have, so he thinks no one should have them lol.

 

[Bassomatic]

Lucas reads here so he will now. I bet Myrna didn't bother to tell her special boy she's leaving blowing his hard earned inheritance and going to lose her mind worse than Pukas.

Tbh forgive pl not even a witch like her I can wish this fate too seen it it's tragic, she's a doctor frakenstien made a monster and is nuts but Lucas is really the evil one.

I assume Lucas will try to keep quiet about this info but if he posts anything it'll be crazy tone deaf, I hope he goes for the "I'll be a care taker mommy let me move in". If that happens (it won't) we will have a Chris Chan 2.0 and Lucas in a Mexican prison saga won't end as well.

 

[Da Dude123]

The thing about Myrna tattooing her kids names on her but leaving out Lucas is super telling. Even though she hates Lucas and for good reason, that is a shitty thing to do. I do agree this is part of why Lucas occasionally rails against tattoos.

The more I learn about Myrna the more I dislike her. She raised a bovine son who she turned over to society to take care of. Now her boomer ass thinks she is high society by moving out to Mexico to live out her boomer life on the beach. What a basic bitch.

I think King Roy has basically cut Lucas out completely. Way more than Myrna has. Lucas hasn't moooed about his inheritance in a while. That would be the best meltdown to find out he was getting nothing.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

The more I learn about Myrna the more I dislike her. She raised a bovine son who she turned over to society to take care of. Now her boomer ass thinks she is high society by moving out to Mexico to live out her boomer life on the beach. What a basic bitch.

I completely agree.

Whether it's Lucas bragging about millions that his family doesn't have, or just the fact that they're comfortable in their middle class status and able to vacation, and experience a lot of the luxuries of life, it's always seemed toxic as hell to leave your firstborn son in severely mentally ill homelessness, on the other side of the state.

Now, Lucas is a unique case. It's a combination of the fact that he frequently refuses to take medication, but also the fact that his particular expression of mental illness isn't just obnoxious and embarrassing, it's grotesque within the family, because of Lucas's incestuous leanings.

I think it's likely that other families would have never let Lucas be homeless for so long, and Myrna just has a poisonous personality, (despite the fact that she clearly wants to be seen as being the ideal loving mother, I've always been struck by the disparity between her writing that when Lucas was born she knew he would "never want for anything" because she just loved him so much, and she must have written this piece when he'd already experienced some degree of homelessness... how is your son "never going to want for anything" if he's living at a homeless shelter, Myrna?) but when I ponder in my head the "why"-s of his situation, my biggest unanswered one about his family estrangement has always been "What was the straw that broke the camel's back?"

Was it cumulative? Just the fact that Lucas never made any progress, refused to help himself, took advantage of everyone around him, and destroyed some of the situations they set him up in, like burning all of his possessions in that apartment? For some reason, I don't think this is the answer.

I know it's apocryphal, we've never had any direct evidence of it other than the way Lucas talks about his nieces, but my impression of the situation has always been that Lucas was excommunicated from the family because he said or did some sexual things towards his female family members. It's like, that would be the sort of behavior that would almost explain Myrna's estrangement. And again, when you think about a woman cutting off her firstborn son when she has plenty of money, it sounds bad, but when you remember that we're talking about Lucas, it becomes a bit more understandable.

I also think that a lot of his pathologies come directly from his mother. The fact that she was telling everyone that she had Lewy bodies, with certainty, when she couldn't possibly know such a thing for sure, is just exactly the sort of scientific certitude that we see Lucas waving all over the place with his telomerase nonsense. She seems very concerned with the perception of being seen as a good mother, not the reality of it. She knows Lucas is a nuclear bomb of a human being, and even though her family could afford to get him good therapists or perhaps permanent stay in a psychiatric facility, she's more than comfortable with letting the tax dollars of everyone else in the state scrape Lucas off of the sidewalk.

Lucas is inexcusable, and no one would want him under their roof, clearly not even family, but Myrna is still a horrible person.

 

[The I Scream Man]

Yeah I always thought it was a combination of some event by Lucas that embarrassed everyone, even if he didn't actually do anything and was just creepin, and Myrna being a worthless hag. She has those tats but I still don't see her with her kids or grandkids very often, any pics I see of them together feel performative and she gives off real strong "I wish my kids would call more (except that one)" vibes

 

[Bassomatic]

To fairly cover the devil's advocate, she's washed her hands and one can understand. Lucas needs meds he refuses to take them. But she wants the ass pats.

Now I can respect not enabling. Same with a junkie. But if you're literally never giving up on someone and they show up said get me in a rehab, you'll line it up perhaps not a nice out of pocket one after a few screw ups but you'll be there. Even if you say you're not welcome here till you're clean.

Now if she felt Lucas is a danger to her and family I can't blame her. Now here's the kicker. Lucas has a payee. If Myrna gave two fucks about the pedo she raised she'd be it. no need for in person contact etc. Nope she did she literally dumped it on the state. She's doing nothing aside using her mentally ill son as a tool for Facebook likes.

As I said I'm trying to cover other side of coin she would not be boo hoo I'm into NAMI etc if she legit crossed Lucas out.

Pukas, we know you read here, that pretty smart girl you want in mom is as toxic a fuck as you are. Also no one "rich" moves to Mexico. They might have a second house (some weasel work required but rich can grease the right palms) but full time ? Nah.

To be fair Lucas "THE CARTEL TOOK MY MOM HOSTAGE" Saga would be a fucking riot.

 

[cheesycukes]

 

[Jeep1971]

I completely agree.

Whether it's Lucas bragging about millions that his family doesn't have, or just the fact that they're comfortable in their middle class status and able to vacation, and experience a lot of the luxuries of life, it's always seemed toxic as hell to leave your firstborn son in severely mentally ill homelessness, on the other side of the state.

Now, Lucas is a unique case. It's a combination of the fact that he frequently refuses to take medication, but also the fact that his particular expression of mental illness isn't just obnoxious and embarrassing, it's grotesque within the family, because of Lucas's incestuous leanings.

I think it's likely that other families would have never let Lucas be homeless for so long, and Myrna just has a poisonous personality, (despite the fact that she clearly wants to be seen as being the ideal loving mother, I've always been struck by the disparity between her writing that when Lucas was born she knew he would "never want for anything" because she just loved him so much, and she must have written this piece when he'd already experienced some degree of homelessness... how is your son "never going to want for anything" if he's living at a homeless shelter, Myrna?) but when I ponder in my head the "why"-s of his situation, my biggest unanswered one about his family estrangement has always been "What was the straw that broke the camel's back?"

Was it cumulative? Just the fact that Lucas never made any progress, refused to help himself, took advantage of everyone around him, and destroyed some of the situations they set him up in, like burning all of his possessions in that apartment? For some reason, I don't think this is the answer.

I know it's apocryphal, we've never had any direct evidence of it other than the way Lucas talks about his nieces, but my impression of the situation has always been that Lucas was excommunicated from the family because he said or did some sexual things towards his female family members. It's like, that would be the sort of behavior that would almost explain Myrna's estrangement. And again, when you think about a woman cutting off her firstborn son when she has plenty of money, it sounds bad, but when you remember that we're talking about Lucas, it becomes a bit more understandable.

I also think that a lot of his pathologies come directly from his mother. The fact that she was telling everyone that she had Lewy bodies, with certainty, when she couldn't possibly know such a thing for sure, is just exactly the sort of scientific certitude that we see Lucas waving all over the place with his telomerase nonsense. She seems very concerned with the perception of being seen as a good mother, not the reality of it. She knows Lucas is a nuclear bomb of a human being, and even though her family could afford to get him good therapists or perhaps permanent stay in a psychiatric facility, she's more than comfortable with letting the tax dollars of everyone else in the state scrape Lucas off of the sidewalk.

Lucas is inexcusable, and no one would want him under their roof, clearly not even family, but Myrna is still a horrible person.

I suspect Lucas was caught jerking off to his nieces in the family manse,perhaps by the sibling who fathered those nieces and narrowly escaped being beaten to death by his brother.

 

[BPD Gunt Rider]

Was it cumulative? Just the fact that Lucas never made any progress, refused to help himself, took advantage of everyone around him, and destroyed some of the situations they set him up in, like burning all of his possessions in that apartment? For some reason, I don't think this is the answer.

We'll never know the real answer though, which is why I'm hesitant to place blame on both ends.

I just wish Myrna would stop with the perfect mother act defending everything her baby boy does which she brings out occasionally concerning Lucas. It's the one area where I feel bad for Lucas, because it's obvious he yearns for her acceptance and care. Lucas has emulated many of her beliefs and activities, he has a bug up his ass about anyone with luxury, which she flaunts constantly. From afar, it seems like a lot of Lucas's maladaptive behaviors come from how lost and confused he feels about his mother that he wants in his life, and she's sorta there but not really.

I'd respect Myrna more if she said "Lucas has mental problems, I tried, I don't know what to do to help him." Or just cleanly separated from him. Because all she's doing is exacerbating Lucas' mental problems, imo.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

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[mothman96]

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The Creeper spending cash on restaurant meals and now the last week of the month back to wanting to scam people for money. Will there be some fool that will fall for it.

We'll never know the real answer though, which is why I'm hesitant to place blame on both ends.

I just wish Myrna would stop with the perfect mother act defending everything her baby boy does which she brings out occasionally concerning Lucas. It's the one area where I feel bad for Lucas, because it's obvious he yearns for her acceptance and care. Lucas has emulated many of her beliefs and activities, he has a bug up his ass about anyone with luxury, which she flaunts constantly. From afar, it seems like a lot of Lucas's maladaptive behaviors come from how lost and confused he feels about his mother that he wants in his life, and she's sorta there but not really.

I'd respect Myrna more if she said "Lucas has mental problems, I tried, I don't know what to do to help him." Or just cleanly separated from him. Because all she's doing is exacerbating Lucas' mental problems, imo.

I'd say what the Creep "yearns " for is to get his hands on whatever money she has.

 

[Cow-Lovin' Fool]

I don't know if I should open this can of worms but, some of you guys ranting away judging his relatives are worthy of a KB toystore full of puzzle pieces here. Lucas is a middle aged man who systematically destroyed their every attempt to save him from himself. He made their lives utter hell and brought actual physical danger to them over and over and over. We are not talking about a teen boy who got caught smoking cigs behind the school gym here. Lucas is a dangerous man and his family are not running a forensic psych hospital.

 

[Bassomatic]

I don't know if I should open this can of worms but, some of you guys ranting away judging his relatives are worthy of a KB toystore full of puzzle pieces here. Lucas is a middle aged man who systematically destroyed their every attempt to save him from himself. He made their lives utter hell and brought actual physical danger to them over and over and over. We are not talking about a teen boy who got caught smoking cigs behind the school gym here. Lucas is a dangerous man and his family are not running a forensic psych hospital.

Healthy debate and respectful disagreement is great and I welcome it.

As I mentioned before there's a lot of hands off people could do for Lucas. No one is saying lol let him live with you aside humorous posts. You're right 100% aside the fact he's clearly not safe to have kids near we see how destructive towards himself when his needs are met then he moos.. moves, to wants and he claims he wants a GF, how did Suzanne turn out? He did nothing but ate her out of house and home jerked off all day and then raged out seeing a girl younger and prettier all while hitting Suzanne.

The care systems work faster with squeaky wheels and as I mentioned Lucas has a state employee payee. This hasn't been done by any of his family why?

Gonna have to PL a bit I know a couple bit DER than my folks adopted a kid from Russia he turned out to be a failure to trive case. Kids a danger he's now mid 40s but retard hulk. His folks can not deal as they aren't mental health care pros and all that. Still they did call around found a good care home. I'd say in "risk level" this guy is a bigger danger than Lucas. But his folks got him set for best he can be. Truly sad shit but they just made a few calls and a few trips and talked to a few docs. Now don't get me wrong mental heal care system isn't easy to deal with or fast but, as I said lots more could be done for Lucas with out enabling him and or putting the family at risk or frankly as I go back again to payee much effort. King Roy or Myrna just writes a check once a month buys Lucas some shampoo etc.

They are uninvolved and I'm not saying they are wrong for doing so. It's a sticky wicket and Lucas sure as fuck won't make it easy as we know even with basic things like access to a shower he won't use it because he's not getting a child to molest .

 

[WonderWino]

I don't know if I should open this can of worms but, some of you guys ranting away judging his relatives are worthy of a KB toystore full of puzzle pieces here. Lucas is a middle aged man who systematically destroyed their every attempt to save him from himself. He made their lives utter hell and brought actual physical danger to them over and over and over. We are not talking about a teen boy who got caught smoking cigs behind the school gym here. Lucas is a dangerous man and his family are not running a forensic psych hospital.

Nobody is saying lucas isn't responsible for his actions, nor that he didn't fuck things up with his family and destroy any relationships he once had with them. What we're saying is he isn't the only one who's fucked in the head and not the only one who is responsible for how he turned out. Its quite clear that myrna has alot to do with how lucas turned out, his weird habits, maladaptive behavior and actions and that rather than do something about it when she had the chance she simply ignored the problems and actively enabled them until it came back to bite everybody in the ass, leading to whatever got him excommunicated from this family. Hell she still makes excuses for him on the rare occasion anyone confronts her about his behavior and takes every opportunity she can get to use him to play victim herself and spin a woe is me cause the system failed my poor innocent son, completely ignoring her own part in it. She's just as manipulative and narcissistic as lucas is in that regard and many of the things he does mirror her own behavior and attitudes - for example, the way she tried to use the lewy body dementia stuff - something she could not have been officially diagnosed with, for ass pats and acting like she knows more about it than she actually does. Lucas behaves exactly the same way with his mental health stuff and telomere 'research'

In short, lucas is a diagnosed, fucked in the head, mental case who had his behavior made worse by how his mother enabled him. Thats his excuse. Whats hers for acting like a narcissistic sped herself and helping create a monster?

That isn't even getting into the fact that she actively disregards the things she knows he has done in the past and things she's been confronted with and tries to deflect it as someone elses problem. Further shown by how she publicly acts like he's her little angel who should have wanted for nothing and its all the systems fault for putting him on the street, poor me. While completely ignoring her part in enabling him, abandoning him and leaving him to rot there. She has the resources that she could have forced the state to place him in a permanent facility as a danger to himself and others, for the good of everyone involved, but no, she didn't want the attention that would send in her direction

One monster created another monster. The only difference is she doesn't rant and rave like an entitled lunatic. Well, not yet. That saga is definitely coming and she will end her days with an inkling of what it is to be a deranged psycho like her son. Ironically, one who is institutionalized, kept safe and prevented from harming others, which is more than lucas likely has in his future

Don't make the mistake of feeling sorry for myrna. She is a monster who created a monster. She deserves every bit of criticism she gets

and before anyone considers arguing against that let me remind you of one thing - look how the entire family handled lucas's LA adventure. As far as they knew at the time, lucas had flown to LA to meet a teen girl, there was even an audio conversation they could have easily listened to with 'her dad' that showed the whole world how he reacted to getting told said girl was 16 and how he behaved exactly like a TCAP pedo when confronted. What was their reaction? To quietly ask around about how to get in contact him and then try to get him on a bus back to spokane on the DL. They didn't call social services and warn them a mentally ill nutcase had ended up in their area and was in danger himself and a potential danger to others so they could take him off the street. They didn't call the cops and report his actions (you know, the thing myrna keeps telling people to do if they find out he did something questionable) they wanted to keep the whole situation quiet and get him out of there without anyone noticing before he did something that would make the news again and get attention on the family

That says everything you need to know about that whole family and of their willingness to enable him, even to the point of getting him out of predatory situations of his own making to cover their own asses and good name

 

[AnOminous]

In short, lucas is a diagnosed, fucked in the head, mental case who had his behavior made worse by how his mother enabled him. Thats his excuse. Whats hers for acting like a narcissistic sped herself and helping create a monster?

Behind every lolcow is a lolmom.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

I don't know if I should open this can of worms but, some of you guys ranting away judging his relatives are worthy of a KB toystore full of puzzle pieces here. Lucas is a middle aged man who systematically destroyed their every attempt to save him from himself. He made their lives utter hell and brought actual physical danger to them over and over and over. We are not talking about a teen boy who got caught smoking cigs behind the school gym here. Lucas is a dangerous man and his family are not running a forensic psych hospital.

I agree, sometimes there's no helping someone like Lucas, won't take his meds, get in therapy, change his behavior, nothing.
You have to do the tough love thing and wash your hands of him.
It's a little sad, but Lucas brought it all down on himself.
Was Myrna perfect? No, but Lucas knows right from wrong, and he'd rather stuff his gullet and dream about queefy baes than do anything to improve his life.