Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
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Not likely. Misdemeanor Incest is 1 year in jail and since this is still in Family Court and not Big Boy Court, it doesn't look like he's getting any felony charges (sadly).
Remember though, he spent about two months in the nut house for being incompetent to stand trial. So really, his "jail" stint was just 10 months, two months shy of a year. I would imagine there's some legal wrangling that could result in another two months detention if Chris fucks this up.
 
How likely is it that he'll get another continuance and what would it mean for his case other than more time served?
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It sounds like it's extremely unlikely because he's not being charged with a felony currently, so they can't keep him more than 1 year. This marks 1 year, ergo they need to wrap it up or charge him with a felony to keep holding him. It's like this for good reason, it would be silly to hold people in jail indefinitely for something where the max punishment time is pretty short.
This is most likely intentional. Chris has no (legal) history of sexual abuse and so will most likely get off light as a first-time offender and tard. So if his defense can point to a year of time served, he'll be right out instead of having to work out any complexities
 
How likely is it that he'll get another continuance and what would it mean for his case other than more time served?

Very likely.
Chris' lawyer likely has the "delay until barb dies or forgets" strategy.
It really all depends on what evidence they have on Chris, something that we will likely never know, but Chris and his lawyer do know. If the evidence is just "barb said" and a confession then they want to delay as long as possible.
Pointless Sperg wrote a very nice FAQ for you if only you would use it.
 
Exactly this. If - and it's a pretty big if - Chris does get out with $10k tugboat banked, do you honestly think that he'll make any real attempt to pay off necessary bills first?

Nah, he'll go on a toy binge the likes of which he hasn't done since the Sonic Sweepstakes.

'And I just - got evicted!'
Playstation 5 that's overpriced. He needs to stay up to date with technology! (Or whatever his excuse was to beg for a ps4 and then acting dismayed because it was a regular edition one.)
 
Toy stores and McDonalds will never be on the itinerary.
Field trips. They love them. I occasionally see this kind of thing when I'm shopping or getting a quick lunch. Tards in all shapes, sizes, and affects. Usually no more than a group of four or five, and two handlers. How the handlers are not driven crazy by this is a mystery.
 
Hey, that team provides many other services, such as constantly ensuring that the swaths of people making interesting and original content with the IP are sent cease and desist letters.

Yeah,big, important companies can't be having with all that free word-of-mouth advertising from fans.


I occasionally see this kind of thing when I'm shopping or getting a quick lunch.

But have you ever seen them at a McDonalds? I say this because I know a tard wrangler¹ who made the mistake of taking her charges to a McDonalds as a reward. One with a playground. "Never again," she said.

Tards in all shapes, sizes, and affects.

Usually it's tards of a feather; they don't tend to mix the downies with the schizos with the autists, for what should be obvious reasons. Also I've heard the actual retards are by far the easiest group to manage, with the schizos and bipolars the worst.

Usually no more than a group of four or five, and two handlers.

That's about the limit you can fit in a van with enough spacing between them.

¹ Slight powerleveling here.
 
Have you ever seen them at a McDonalds? I say this because I know a tard wrangler¹ who made the mistake of taking her charges to a McDonalds as a reward. One with a playground. "Never again," she said.

¹ Slight powerleveling here.
This story can't be that unique. Give us a run-down on what she said
 
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He spends and spends and keeps spending until he runs out of money and credit and can't spend any more.
Oh man, I haven’t even considered his credit debt since he’s been locked up. I think it’s safe to assume he’s defaulted on every single line of credit/loan he’s taken out and when he gets out every credit card he owns will be over the limit or closed due to lack of payment.

And his car was paid off right? Although now that I think about it I don’t remember any of the Reddit weens who visited the house mentioning Chris’ car being parked there, has it been impounded this entire time? If so, he’s fucked.

Let’s hope that Barb’s family were smart enough to remove Chris’ ability to access his mom’s bank account because he is stupid enough to try and steal from her if he’s desperate enough.
 
Oh man, I haven’t even considered his credit debt since he’s been locked up. I think it’s safe to assume he’s defaulted on every single line of credit/loan he’s taken out and when he gets out every credit card he owns will be over the limit or closed due to lack of payment.

And his car was paid off right? Although now that I think about it I don’t remember any of the Reddit weens who visited the house mentioning Chris’ car being parked there, has it been impounded this entire time? If so, he’s fucked.

Let’s hope that Barb’s family were smart enough to remove Chris’ ability to access his mom’s bank account because he is stupid enough to try and steal from her if he’s desperate enough.
The car was totaled in November, barb was even fined for the accident.

 
Very likely.
Chris' lawyer likely has the "delay until barb dies or forgets" strategy.
It really all depends on what evidence they have on Chris, something that we will likely never know, but Chris and his lawyer do know. If the evidence is just "barb said" and a confession then they want to delay as long as possible.

They could, but that would be more leverage for a plea deal rather than something they'd do unilaterally. Fuck around too much and the prosecution can turn the screws.

1 year is the maximum PUNISHMENT for a misdemeanor, pretrial detention is not considered a punishment. All pretrial detention is, is a guarantee that you will show up to court and/or not disturb victims/public.
People have waited in jail for years voluntarily to try to get off from a misdemeanor, especially if it is a sexual offense.
Finally, I could be wrong but isn't Chris facing a "wobbler" offense? It could be a misdemeanor or a felony.

In most places you can't be held in remand longer than the maximum sentence.

Yes, it is a wobbler, however it would be odd to be held in Virginia for over a year without an indictment. It would mean that Chris is being held in jail longer than the maximum sentence that the court he's in could sentence him to.

The argument could be made that because it's potentially a felony, they can hold him longer even though he hasn't been indicted. There are a few places where this *does* happen. It seems to mostly happen in Mississippi, and it is a point of contention there.

I haven't been able to find an example of someone in Virginia held for longer than a year without an indictment. There was an example in neighboring West Virginia of a man held a few weeks longer, but it was considered a mistake and a judge fixed it quickly when he was made aware.

The other way they can keep him in jail longer than a year without an indictment is if they have brought more misdemeanor charges, on the grounds that they would be served consecutively, however by Virginia law that would require that the charges be for more than one distinct act (In Virginia you cannot sentence on multiple charges for one act, it's basically double jeopardy, but slightly stronger than the US constitution guarantee as it doesn't require that the requirements of one charge be entirely encompasssed by another. For instance, the Supreme Court of Virginia has ruled that you can't be charged for robbing a store and then also be charged for receiving stolen goods when the clerk hands them to you, even though the requirements do not completely overlap.)

I haven't found any information on a maximum for consecutively-served sentences for misdemeanors in Virginia. It's probably buried in the court rules rather than in statute. But as an example of how this could work, in neighboring North Carolina the rules are set such that you can't be sentenced consecutively for more than twice the length of the most serious misdemeanor.

Regardless of all this, based on the behavior of the court and the information we have from Chris, all indications seem to point to Chris getting out after one year unless Chris spectacularly fucks up his hearing.
 
I can see Chris doing exactly like last time and say something so stupid they have to hold him Longer, even with them explaining that he should not do this.
 
I'm wondering if Barb saved the Sonichu license plates. If they are gone, I think Chris will have a major meltdown. Assuming Chris will be able to find out what happened.
His hugbox is completely destroyed, no matter what he is having a massive meltdown.
 
Anyone know of people who say they're goin to the hearing Thursday? Might be worth it this time since Chris could potentially be walkin outta the slammer, ready to pass judgment on all of the non-believers.

I'm hoping Ethan Ralph shows up, if not to the hearing then I'm sure he'll speed over there as soon as it's confirmed Chris is out.
 
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