Coming Out to Friends as a Transphobe

[s0mbra]

Just wanted to thank everyone for their responses. Even those that roasted me, ha.

On a related note, does anyone else also find themselves questioning whether some women are trannies now, way more than a decade previous? Used to be you could admire an actress or female musician who had a bit of a strong jawline or an androgynous look. But now I find myself Googling to find out if I'm going to see a tranny at a concert or in a movie.

I'm also extremely skeptical when I see a "woman" pop up in a group usually filled with nerdy men. I remember scrolling through a retro video game group on Facebook and all the female names had ugly middle aged dudes in wigs and lipstick.

I have a big thing for 'manly" women myself. I'm scared, bros. I'm usually really good at clocking but I still worry.

Also to a similar vein, I'm suspicious anytime I see someone with the word "sapphic" in their name, because nine times out of ten it's a tranny. Same goes for super girly names, but they fucking love sapphic

 

[ATI Escapee]

Hold up. Fatties justifying fatness is Russian propaganda now?

I am very inclined to believe it did not start in Russia, def here in US, but that a percentage of online fat acceptance propaganda is being retweeted and shared by russian bots, yeah. It is an idea people love so you don't have to try hard to get people to share it amomst themselves so it makes sense to help the spread along if you want to weaken the US in any cheap, sustainable, and unexpected way...

I have no proof whatsoever but I would bet somewhere like 5% of FA and bad diet advice like intuitive eating memes were made by bots outside of the US, and probably 10 to 15% of accounts dedicated to being a page of only FA/HAES are run by foreign entities of some nature. The rest is absolutely people justifying obesity and trying to feel better about their choices....

Personal tinfoil

 

[Stan]

TBH I have this problem, I went to a liberal arts college known for being gay-friendly and it was a troon madrasa back in the late 2000s - early 2010s. Now it seems like the wacky ideas from school are mainstream, and the TikTok crowd is seeding trans culture everywhere. Social research shows that there are more children and Zoomers trooning out that millennials, who themselves had noticeably more trans people than Boomers.

It’s possible there’s 5x more trans in the Zoomer gen than the boomer gen because all the boomer trans died of AIDS or got murdered or died young for other reasons. That is a sad idea, but I think most of the rise in these numbers is because younger kids are getting on the Internet and getting bad ideas from their friends.

Now I just feel totally disaffected from my own co-partisans. We used to care about issues that affected everyone, but now everyone’s banging on about trans rights this and trans rights that. How many trans people are there in the US? Maybe one percent, if I’m generous? 1 percent doesn’t win an election.

Even the roe v Wade reversal needing a stupid trans spin on it, by calling women “pregnant people” to accommodate the 4 trans men out there affected by the state bans.

This trans nonsense is such a losing strategy from the left. It alienates the center, and the base it energizes are marginal, single issue voters who think the government should pay for their top surgery. And that repels more people out of the caucus, because 99% of the voting population doesn’t need trans rights or services.

 

[Chromeo]

Same goes for super girly names, but they fucking love sapphic

Literally anyone online with a crystal name nowadays is just a MtF troon that loves Steven Universe, I swear to God. Granted, a few Rubys and Crystals are probably just regular women who were named Ruby and Crystal, but anyone claiming their name is Peridot, Lapis, or Aquamarine is 100% a troon. It makes me so mad because I love crystal names and now they're just associated with perverts who wank to kid shows.

 

[Dyn]

But now I find myself Googling to find out if I'm going to see a tranny at a concert or in a movie.

Unless you're trying to get backstage to go down on them why do you even care?

 

[Stephanie Brown]

Sorry for sperging, but I had something happen with a handmaiden friend and I feel like this might be the place to talk about it

Spoiler: big sperging ahead

I hung out with my best friend recently, and she announced she had a girlfriend now, and that her girlfriend used the pronouns they/she. I asked "oh she's a girl but identifies as non binary right" and she got mad at me for calling her a girl, I just answered "hey man i'm just saying she was born a girl, I believe in science anyway did you see the new episode of x show?", trying to change the subject. The rest of the evening went super well, but during the week, she didn't answer any of my texts, then last night she sent me an essay on how "You really hurt my feelings and made me sooo sad, don't you know how much trans people suffer? All my trans friends keep telling me how hard their life is you're just ignorant because you don't know any trans people, non binary people are sooo brave for breaking out of the mold, apologize or we can't be friends anymore" I apologized because holy shit I'm not gonna lose my best friend over some bullshit. She accepted the apology and things are fine now, but Jesus Christ, what kind of intense brainwashing is going on in the trans community, I thought this handmaiden nonsense was just twitter shit, but no my best friend of 10 years wanted to end our friendship because I said science is real. Are the "tranny discord groomers" meme actually true? Because I know aside from the non binary girl, she doesn't have any trans friends, but she plays dnd on discord, I wouldn't be surprised if her discord group was crawling with trannies brainwashing her. I don't think she's a bad person, i'm not mad at her, but honestly i'm feeling pretty hurt that she wanted to end things with me just for a stupid comment. Sorry for venting but obviously I can't talk about this to any of my other friends so sorry for sperging. Have you guys had similar experiences?

 

[Basil Julep]

Sorry for sperging, but I had something happen with a handmaiden friend and I feel like this might be the place to talk about it

Spoiler: big sperging ahead

I hung out with my best friend recently, and she announced she had a girlfriend now, and that her girlfriend used the pronouns they/she. I asked "oh she's a girl but identifies as non binary right" and she got mad at me for calling her a girl, I just answered "hey man i'm just saying she was born a girl, I believe in science anyway did you see the new episode of x show?", trying to change the subject. The rest of the evening went super well, but during the week, she didn't answer any of my texts, then last night she sent me an essay on how "You really hurt my feelings and made me sooo sad, don't you know how much trans people suffer? All my trans friends keep telling me how hard their life is you're just ignorant because you don't know any trans people, non binary people are sooo brave for breaking out of the mold, apologize or we can't be friends anymore" I apologized because holy shit I'm not gonna lose my best friend over some bullshit. She accepted the apology and things are fine now, but Jesus Christ, what kind of intense brainwashing is going on in the trans community, I thought this handmaiden nonsense was just twitter shit, but no my best friend of 10 years wanted to end our friendship because I said science is real. Are the "tranny discord groomers" meme actually true? Because I know aside from the non binary girl, she doesn't have any trans friends, but she plays dnd on discord, I wouldn't be surprised if her discord group was crawling with trannies brainwashing her. I don't think she's a bad person, i'm not mad at her, but honestly i'm feeling pretty hurt that she wanted to end things with me just for a stupid comment. Sorry for venting but obviously I can't talk about this to any of my other friends so sorry for sperging. Have you guys had similar experiences?

Ugh that's a tough one. I am older and if one of my older friends said "we can't be friends anymore because X" it would really, really have to be something I felt terrible about.

For something like this, I'd let them go without hesitation.

If you both are younger, then giving her a pass for something dramatic like "we can't be friends anymore because ..." can be reasonable.

You would be wise to make some friends that aren't like this though.

 

[Stephanie Brown]

Ugh that's a tough one. I am older and if one of my older friends said "we can't be friends anymore because X" it would really, really have to be something I felt terrible about.

For something like this, I'd let them go without hesitation.

If you both are younger, then giving her a pass for something dramatic like "we can't be friends anymore because ..." can be reasonable.

You would be wise to make some friends that aren't like this though.

Thank you for the advice, we're both in our early 20's so yeah, young. This whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth but this is the first time she's ever done something like that, so I'm more willing to give her a pass.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

Thank you for the advice, we're both in our early 20's so yeah, young.

That's the age range when change in behavior and thought is still really easy, so I have to agree that there's still hope. A decade-long relationship is a huge deal, especially these days when people throw each other away like it's nothing, the way the current political forces want us to. I hope very much that things work out and you don't either lose her or have to pretend to be someone you're not in order to keep her friendship.

 

[Kier]

Sorry for sperging, but I had something happen with a handmaiden friend and I feel like this might be the place to talk about it

Spoiler: big sperging ahead

I hung out with my best friend recently, and she announced she had a girlfriend now, and that her girlfriend used the pronouns they/she. I asked "oh she's a girl but identifies as non binary right" and she got mad at me for calling her a girl, I just answered "hey man i'm just saying she was born a girl, I believe in science anyway did you see the new episode of x show?", trying to change the subject. The rest of the evening went super well, but during the week, she didn't answer any of my texts, then last night she sent me an essay on how "You really hurt my feelings and made me sooo sad, don't you know how much trans people suffer? All my trans friends keep telling me how hard their life is you're just ignorant because you don't know any trans people, non binary people are sooo brave for breaking out of the mold, apologize or we can't be friends anymore" I apologized because holy shit I'm not gonna lose my best friend over some bullshit. She accepted the apology and things are fine now, but Jesus Christ, what kind of intense brainwashing is going on in the trans community, I thought this handmaiden nonsense was just twitter shit, but no my best friend of 10 years wanted to end our friendship because I said science is real. Are the "tranny discord groomers" meme actually true? Because I know aside from the non binary girl, she doesn't have any trans friends, but she plays dnd on discord, I wouldn't be surprised if her discord group was crawling with trannies brainwashing her. I don't think she's a bad person, i'm not mad at her, but honestly i'm feeling pretty hurt that she wanted to end things with me just for a stupid comment. Sorry for venting but obviously I can't talk about this to any of my other friends so sorry for sperging. Have you guys had similar experiences?

Spoiler: Relating sperging

One of my best friends since childhood went away to college and came out as trans within two months. Seems he went for some they/them pussy and never came back. He was always too active on discord but I stay away from all that shit because, well, look where it got him.
For a moment he told me he was scaling back to just they/them not she/her so I gave it a chance to see if just a push from someone outside the hugbox would help.
Things came to a head, when I shitposted about Birdo while we were playing Mario Party. Two days later a mutual friend sent me a snapshot of a discord he ran, because apparently somewhere down the line he became a twitch streamer. Turns out after that shitpost he went fully back to trans and announced it to his audience of kids.
I had to accept that my friend is gone, and probably has been gone for a lot longer than I knew it. I haven't talked to him since, because if we ever did our contempt for each others lifestyles would be too strong and a Kiwi and a Troon that know each other far too well should quit when they are both not doxed.

 

[Boner Pill]

'Coming out' as anything is big gay. Either tell your friends what you believe or don't, I'm not sure what you're expecting to get out of this.

That said, I lost an autistic faggot friend when he went all 'if you won't say that you'd suck trannydick right the fuck now then we can't be friends' on me so I told him to fuck off.

On the other end of the faggot spectrum I know a tranny who literally doesn't care what you call him/her and is happy to banter on any subject. He's the first tranny I've ever met outside of Internet trannies and while I would never call him a true and honest woman I also find him to be a chill and fun person to be around.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

'Coming out' as anything is big gay. Either tell your friends what you believe or don't, I'm not sure what you're expecting to get out of this.

Having people in your life who you value greatly would make anyone understand.

ETA: Having a job or any kind of dependence on societal participation would make anyone understand, really.

 

[derpi]

Sorry for sperging, but I had something happen with a handmaiden friend and I feel like this might be the place to talk about it

Spoiler: big sperging ahead

I hung out with my best friend recently, and she announced she had a girlfriend now, and that her girlfriend used the pronouns they/she. I asked "oh she's a girl but identifies as non binary right" and she got mad at me for calling her a girl, I just answered "hey man i'm just saying she was born a girl, I believe in science anyway did you see the new episode of x show?", trying to change the subject. The rest of the evening went super well, but during the week, she didn't answer any of my texts, then last night she sent me an essay on how "You really hurt my feelings and made me sooo sad, don't you know how much trans people suffer? All my trans friends keep telling me how hard their life is you're just ignorant because you don't know any trans people, non binary people are sooo brave for breaking out of the mold, apologize or we can't be friends anymore" I apologized because holy shit I'm not gonna lose my best friend over some bullshit. She accepted the apology and things are fine now, but Jesus Christ, what kind of intense brainwashing is going on in the trans community, I thought this handmaiden nonsense was just twitter shit, but no my best friend of 10 years wanted to end our friendship because I said science is real. Are the "tranny discord groomers" meme actually true? Because I know aside from the non binary girl, she doesn't have any trans friends, but she plays dnd on discord, I wouldn't be surprised if her discord group was crawling with trannies brainwashing her. I don't think she's a bad person, i'm not mad at her, but honestly i'm feeling pretty hurt that she wanted to end things with me just for a stupid comment. Sorry for venting but obviously I can't talk about this to any of my other friends so sorry for sperging. Have you guys had similar experiences?

Friend of ten years decided we weren’t friends anymore because I don’t think uncut trannies should be allowed in women’s domestic abuse shelters and prisons.
It’s been two years since she ghosted me and now she wants to be friends again. I’m not going to be friends with her. If she’ll drop me over an issue that doesn’t even affect her she doesn’t deserve my friendship.
She got all dramatic at a wedding a couple of months ago when I didn’t greet her and started sobbing like a big fat baby. I ignored her, it isn’t my problem anymore.
Her husband is very angry at me for that lmao.

Edit: clicked post too soon

 

[Chromeo]

Friend of ten years decided we weren’t friends anymore because I don’t think uncut trannies should be allowed in women’s domestic abuse shelters and prisons.
It’s been two years since she ghosted me and now she wants to be friends again. I’m not going to be friends with her. If she’ll drop me over an issue that doesn’t even affect her she doesn’t deserve my friendship.
She got all dramatic at a wedding a couple of months ago when I didn’t greet her and started sobbing like a big fat baby. I ignored her, it isn’t my problem anymore.
Her husband is very angry at me for that lmao.

Edit: clicked post too soon

Sounds like she lives for the drama. She needs to fill her life with things that give her serotonin OTHER than pitching a fit.

 

[Hambubger]

Niggers are cool with trannys until their in their household

 

[Feefee81093]

They're pretty understanding.

 

[Dolomite]

I can't approach this topic with my friends because they're incredibly pozzed (they go "I hate J.K. Rowling!/pride UwU/BLM/muh pronouns/etc.") although none of them are queer. I have only one based friend, but she lives thousands of miles away..

 

[wyattamurcan]

There's no such thing as transphobia, because people cannot "transition" to a different sex. No matter how much they mutilate their body or pump it full of opposite sex hormones, they will never be able to change that Y-chromosome to another X-chromosome.

I may talk shit on troons on here, but in reality I would never kill or injure one for the sake of them being troons. I find them obnoxious, annoying, self-indulgent, and degenerate, but I'd never harm one that hadn't first used violence against me or someone I love, and when I say "violence", I mean actual violence; not "saying mean words to me".

My main problem lies with the ones that are activists that make ridiculous statements along the lines of "any straight man who wouldn't suck a woman's penis is a Nazi" as well as the sick degenerate fucks that try to do this shit to children. If an adult wants to maim themselves, that's one thing. Doing it to a child or convincing a child that they need to have it done to them is an entirely different story (that's based on my own personal history with abusive adults).

 

[Leapin Lizard]

This trans nonsense is such a losing strategy from the left. It alienates the center

Ignore the alienates the center argument. I was incredibly left - now doubting that mainly because the insistence on LGBTQ whatever activists insisting on shoving it down people’s throats even when the backlash is clear. There was a survey out this week saying Americans are less accepting of gay marriage than they were 5 years ago. I can’t help but to think that the drag story times and non-binary children are part of that. Sure, some of it is a weird person posting a video who’s opinions do not represent the masses getting shared by Tucker Carlson or something, but it’s not all that.


I personally do not care if you want to live your life as the opposite gender and do so without making it your whole identity. If you’re so dysphoric being the gender you were given at birth, why would you want to constantly remind people of that? I feel like most gay people are just gay - sure they may do pride parades and wear glitter but 95% of gay people I know are just normal people who happen to be gay. Meanwhile, every trans person except 1 that I’ve encountered are very clearly trans, half-assing it, or have to bring up that they’re trans all the time.


I don’t have much of a point but I’ve really struggled this year with Drag Story Times, Drag Queens at school, and obnoxious “trans” folks being seemingly the downfall of the acceptance society had for gay people. Why is this the hill libs are choosing to die on?

 

[Android raptor]

I can’t help but to think that the drag story times and non-binary children are part of that.

Non-binary children are typically the Current Year equivalent of girls in the NLOG phase. At this point I think the only way to really deter girls from declaring themselves he/theys and wanting to chop their tits off is to try and combat the shit that causes NLOGery in the first place, which is much easier said than done.