Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,512
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My mother (legal transcriptionist and stenographer, 15 years) predicts that if Chris is convicted
Why would you subject your poor mother to this
The prosecution just pissed away a whole year offering Chris a lesser charge (misdemeanor incest instead of felony incest), and Chris didn't plead guilty to that
As @Pointless Sperg said before a couple times already, we don't know what happened in the backstage
Maybe pleading guilty to the felony was actually the lesser charge and Chris took the deal
Maybe they had a couple more charges they threatened Chris with (such as taking money from Barb's account when he was not allowed to, after a court order) if he didn't take the deal
Before that, I was also incorrectly assuming Grand Jury meant no deal was taken, but Grand Jury can mean that Chris took a guilty plea for "only" a felony
 
And then the prosecution arranges a special showing of Psycho* and everyone regains perspective.

*Cole can give the critical explainer.
Cole hates Barb more than anyone lol, he claims she abused him through cruel and unusual punishments such as forcing him to take cold showers and bottomless spanking among other things. Also claimed that she was a huge whore. I doubt he would defend Barb.
 
Completely irrelevant; get fucked lurkers. Should’ve just registered a month ago.
Should I sell my invite on ebay? "EXCLUSIVE INVITE CODE TO CHRIS-CHAN FORUM KIWIFARMS".
Going by the coin auction, the account would probably be banned.

Found this account, RossTheFox, on writing.com that has been strangely obsessed with writing up mini-essays about Chris. Written in such a way as though he were talking to Chris, the most recent post being yesterday.

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Chapter 6: Chris-Chan goes before the Grand Jury!
It was June 2022, and you are still royally upset! Just a month ago, you were bought back from Western State Hospital, and are very upset because you thought you were going back home, not to the Jail of Fail! However, while sulking in your jail cell, you get a letter with a familiar handwriting. You recognize it as Helena's and begin to read the letter!

In the letter, she talks about how your latest mugshot taken has sent her into a bit of depression and she has taken her hand into making some gory artwork. She then tells you the bad news about how websites across the internet has been removing Sonichu content off of their webpages because the owners of the website are disgusted with you and what you have done last year! She then hears about your bitching about how trolls are still making OCs without your permission and asks if it was OK for her to make some. You gave her the approval to do so.

During the month of June, you decided to fill Helena in on what all happened at the hospital full of "slow-in-the-minds." You told her that on the day just before the one where they sent you back to the jail of fail, you were getting argumentative with a nurse. The bitch went by the name of Betty Hoover and she was telling you some things that was making you upset! You try to smite her with your goddess powers, but she ended up ordering a group of Jerkops to dog-pile you and repeat what has happened to you in the 4th grade. While you were pinned down, flashbacks from the horrific event filled up your head as you begin to scream in a state of panic. You also claimed that the bitch gave you PTSD and you were going to take her sorry ass, along with the rest of the facility, to court for daring to harm a CPU Goddess! You then tell her that you knew that you were going to be betrayed and thrown into jail LONG before the call got leaked, by both Null and Bella! You then make a claim that your mother's testimony is "moot" and therefore, will not be allowed to be entered into evidence in a court of law.

You later tell her that the reason why things got so quiet during your stay at Western State, is because the Jerkops were sending the letters right back to the senders and you were not getting any! You again claimed that you never did anything with your Mother...nothing that you think would hurt her anyways, and stated that you did what you did because you needed to "soul bond" with her and heal her up! Helena asks what "soul bonding" is and you simply tell her that it only involves you, holding the hands of your loved one and staring right into their eyeballs...because that's exactly what happened between you and your mother and TOTALLY nothing sexual, AT ALL! She then asks why you were sent to Western State to begin with, and you told her that you were sent to be educated on how to properly behave in a courtroom. You were told by Heilberg or somebody that your antics in the courtroom was getting on the Judge's nerves and he had sent you there to see if you were able to stand competent in court! You also decided to take the time to bitch about how the Warden stopped you from drawing the Sonichu comics! You were drawing the comics to detail everything that has led up to your current predicament from last year, when the no good jerk forbade you from doing so! You argued with the warden that you were just doing this just to blow some steam, but the warden will have none of it!

Later on, you tell Helena that, under your new religion, witches and mystical shamans will not be punished anymore, BUT THOSE DANG, DIRTY TROLLS WILL CERTAINLY BE!!! She then asks you what you think of Pride and instead of talking about pride as in the kind shown in the LGBT community, you talked about the DEADLY sin of Pride and how it's not really a sin anymore...ARROGANCE is...and you told Helena to please plead with Gibi and persuade him to not give in to the dark forces and become a DANG, DIRTY TROLL! You then decided to once again air out your dirty laundry with Helena. You told her that while in jail, you have been trying to convince what little family you have left to try to be nice to you and help your mother out! But that bitch Harriett and Uncle Tom keeps butting in and telling them off, telling them that you are in jail for a reason and your mother is fine! You then reached out to your half-brother Cole Smithey and asked him to please help out! He just laughs at you and tells you to kindly fuck off before hanging up on you! That fucking bastard! If he wasn't such a greedy turd, he could of EASILY used his MOUNDS of money to not only help your mother out, but to possibly help you PAY OFF YOUR SHIT AS WELL, ESPECIALLY WITH FUCKING SETERUS! You also tell her that you hardly ever get angry, forgetting the fact that, just days before the fiasco has even started, you were making a Youtube video, screaming your head off like a lunatic at Hasbro after finding some slanderous Pony toys at Wal-mart and Target! You then tell her that before you went to jail, you tried to save Bella's soul from the demons, but she was too tainted by the evil forces, and did the evil deed of leaking the call and forcing you into this Hell-hole! You then decided to tell Helena a "Little White Lie", because, you know, since she is such a good girl, she is probably more than willing to help you out! You started off with one lie, claiming that the Sonichu Temple is nearly paid off and that all is left is for about ninety grand to come in and help finish it off! You then make up another lie and tell her that your mother...is no longer at home, but is rather "elsewhere." You claimed that you didn't really know, and she could either be in a medical facility, or at the bitch Harriett's condo! You also talked about how whenever you got back to the Holy Temple, you will be hard at work, cleaning up the place! You also decided to share a couple of things with her. You told her that at times, you think the prison guards are looking at the letters and posting them online! Yes, that's how the letters are getting online, the prison guards are TOTALLY looking through your mail and TOTALLY not the people you sent the letters to in the first place! And lastly, you decided to admit to the fact that at times...you have role-played as your own father...because their is nothing creepy about that! You even told her that you might have done this when doing...things...with your mother...

Some time later, when Helena is checking up on you, you decided to finally confess your lie...You tell her that you lied about your mother being elsewhere and that you still owed quite a bit of money on the Holy Temple. She then asks, while in shock, you would lie about such a thing. You tell her that it was just a harmless "Little White Lie", but she tells you that, as a Goddess of "Truth and Honesty", you shouldn't of lied to BEGIN with and you should of been up front with her! You then tell her that you need her help in paying off the mortgage and putting your mother in a nursing home. Helena then tells you to kindly piss off before cutting off contact with you...

JULY 2022

You had begun to pace around in your jail cell, being quite nervous about your next day in court, when you get another letter. It was from Kenneth! You open it up with glee and find out that Kenneth is freaked out and asks why you lied to Helena and asked her to help put your mother in a nursing home?!? He then asks about a fundraiser you mentioned to her, and that's when you decided to lay out your grand plan! You tell him that you need him and Helena to start a fundraiser and raise about $150K to help not only pay off the mortgage and get rid of the greedy assholes from Seterus, but to help entice your Mom into going into a nursing home, since the traitorous bitch won't share her pus-, I MEAN UM, bed with you! Kenneth then asks if you have lost your mind and tells you that he is not going to go through with it! You tell him that the last time he committed blasphemy against you, you were a hairline away from smiting his ass, and you are getting to that point again! He again tells you that he is not going to go through with this preposterous idea and you angrily tell him that he better get off of his hamburger boiling ass and go work on it, OR HE WILL FACE THE FURY OF THE CPU GODDESSES!!! He then tells you that you have lost it again before cutting contact with you again also.

THE DAY OF THE TRIAL!

You have been pumped up for this day! IT HAS BEEN SEVERAL LONG AND PAINFUL MONTHS, BUT YOU ARE FINALLY HERE! AND TODAY, YOU MAY FINALLY SET FOOT IN THE GRACIOUS HALLS OF THE SONICHU TEMPLE! As you sit next to the dorky lawyer, he reminds you to please go along with the plea deal and you agree! You remember that during your stay, you have often been pulled into meetings with the dorky lawyer where he told you about a plea deal. It was basically saying that not only are you pleading guilty to the crimes committed, but you will also have to find a way to stay away from Mommy! Whether this means no longer staying at the Holy Temple or having her live elsewhere makes no difference, as long as the Judge is happy! You didn't like this idea...and have come up with an INGENIOUS PLAN! Not only will you REFUSE to confess to the crime, but you will gladly TELL THE JUDGE THAT YOU CANNOT BE SEPARATED FROM YOUR MOTHER, NO MATTER WHAT! Things go smoothly in the courtroom until Judge Miyamoto-San asks how you plead. That was when you stood up quite proudly and announced that not only are you rejecting the plea deal, but that the soul bonding is NECESSARY to help keep your Mom ALIVE! Your attorney starts cussing up a storm and tells you to stop this nonsense and plead guilty! You tell the dork to shut it! The Judge then threatens to send the case to a Grand Jury! Heilberg flips out and begins to beg you to, again, accept the plea deal, but you bravely tell the judge to send it to the Grand Jury! Your attorney goes into another cussing fit before asking what the Hell is wrong with you and asks if you have any idea what is going to happen. You tell him that it's no big deal because you are a Goddess, and you can conquer this courtroom! He tells you that, by being sent to the Grand Jury, you are getting set up to have FELONY CHARGES tacked onto you, and if you are found guilty, YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE SUN AGAIN!!! You roll your eyes at this totally empty threat and say whatever, when is the Grand Jury coming in? The Judge has set the date on August 8, 2022!

You then say fine, and that you will be leaving now! Before you could though, Jerkops start to grab and drag you out! You start to panic and yell, asking what is going on, and the Judge tells you that you will be waiting for the Grand Jury, IN JAIL...

no
NO
NO
NO
NOOOOOOOOO!!!

[Gif of black guy from Family Guy falling down from a bathtub]

HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING?!? YOU WERE TOLD FOR MONTHS THAT AFTER TODAY, YOU WILL BE BACK AT THE HOLY TEMPLE, AND YOU WOULD NO LONGER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS NONSENSE! YOU EVEN TOLD YOUR FOLLOWERS THAT AFTER COURT TODAY, YOU WILL BE IN YOUR TEMPLE, MAKING ANOTHER YOUTUBE VIDEO, SIGNALLING YOUR TRIUMPHANT DEFEAT OVER ALL THE EVIL THAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE PAST YEAR AND YOU WERE GOING TO GET BACK AT THOSE DANG, DIRTY TROLLS!

After you get tossed back into your jail cell, you climb back onto your cot and cry your eyeballs out, UPSET THAT YOU WERE ONCE AGAIN WRONGED BY JUDGE MIYAMOTO-SAN AND THAT GODDAMN GREEDY...HEILBERG!!!!!​

Someone's been a little too 'inspired' after reading the Cwcki or watching episode 387 of Genosamuel's videos.
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as an actual Kiwi, From New Zealand, I find the cwckifarms name problematic... Could we change the name to "retard lets trolls talk him into finking his own mum farms"? OK? Look , I know it's not very snappy but at least we are keeping the humble kiwi out of it. I leave you with a sampling of our culture... no copyright infringing characters and no naive asshats, just good old kiwi farming.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bnCN1bEEEI
Who told you that kiwis can't fly?
Let's compromise:

We'll name it "The (your full name) who lives at (your full address) is a Faggot Farms"
 
Assuming the jury is unfamiliar with Chris, and Heilberg brings up how Barb forced Chris to spoon her, how she was handsy with him in public and all that shit, it would not be hard to make them at least consider the possibility that it was consensual.
I think an argument like that would backfire on the defense big time. You don't get up in front of the jury and blame an obvious victim.

After seeing the most recent correspondence with Chris, I am totally convinced that it wasn't consensual and it was definitely rape. Chris is saying all the things a rapist says... blaming the victim, marginalizing the crime, using sex as a tool for exerting power over a weaker person, and turning the tables to try to make people think he is the victim. The fact that he is eager now to raise money to buy the house from under Barb and kick her out to a nursing home is clear evidence that the sex wasn't because of misplaced affection. Affection and attraction had absolutely nothing to do with it. Sex to Chris was about exerting power over Barb. For many years, Barb held power over Chris, and when Barb started faltering and needed his help he resented it. When Barb got weak enough mentally, he took his revenge by exerting the ultimate power over her. She told him to stop and he overpowered her. When she realized what had happened, she couldn't say anything about it because without Chris to help her, she wouldn't be able to live the life she was used to at 14 BC. She kept quiet, and Chris proceeded to get how to books about the best way to rape her without leaving a mark, and put big red X's on the calendar to mark the nights he was going to overpower her next. To Chris, he was stepping into the shoes of the man of the house- Bob Chandler.

I don't deny that Barb was a lousy person. But now she's a weak lousy person. Chris is the one that controlled and directed the situation, forcing Barb to do what he told her to do and keep her mouth shut. Chris is a monster.

Maybe he always was a monster, just too subjugated to cause any real trouble. But now that he's learned how to take power over the weak, Chris isn't just a threat to old people... he is a threat to anyone more powerless than he is. Sex isn't about attraction to him. He doesn't fantasize about old ladies. Sex is about power to him. He plays back the sickest power trip tropes in his head from the porn he obsessed over for years. He's a threat to small children, mentally unstable people, elderly people and non-self sufficient handicapped people.

Regardless of whether they can make a solid rape case against Chris or not, he is definitely a rapist. He doesn't need a group home. He would prey on people there too. He needs a prison cell.
 
So some ween made a video claiming that Chris was offered a 5-year plea deal and rejected it, but I see no confirmation of the length of the plea deal anywhere else, so this guy's either just making it up or giving bad info:


He's gonna take you back to the past
To watch a man fuck him the ass

He's the angry video game faggot
 
How likely is it that Chris will be held in contempt of court?
Idk how they do it in VA but typically the defendant isn't present for the Grand Jury. It's purely the prosecution providing the Grand Jury with evidence so that they can determine if there's probable cause to issue felony charges. It is very easy to get an indictment because the prosecution can present whatever they want without fear of cross-examination or rebuttal evidence. People often say that a Grand Jury will indict a ham sandwich because of this.

Should note that this Grand Jury is not determining his guilt or innocence, just whether felony charges will issue. This means that Chris will be in jail for some number of months while he awaits an actual trial.
 
I hope to god we see Chris in one of these "Courtroom freakout" videos after he gets his sentence.
God I hope it's televised. I know it won't, but damn it, I need it.
The jerkops are taking our cow away - and for good reason, he obviously deserves incarceration - but if Chris is to be taken away for a few years then we at least deserve to see a fucking bang. Don't let it just fizzle out. Give us just a last little bit of milk before everything goes silent, please God, make it spectacular...
 
God I hope it's televised. I know it won't, but damn it, I need it.
The jerkops are taking our cow away - and for good reason, he obviously deserves incarceration - but if Chris is to be taken away for a few years then we at least deserve to see a fucking bang. Don't let it just fizzle out. Give us just a last little bit of milk before everything goes silent, please God, make it spectacular...
I think before Christory is over for good, once he's sentenced to a few years in the can, he needs one last blowout.

Trying to manifest Chris trying to punch the judge and getting dragged by 7 police officers, kicking and screaming.
 
I think an argument like that would backfire on the defense big time. You don't get up in front of the jury and blame an obvious victim.

After seeing the most recent correspondence with Chris, I am totally convinced that it wasn't consensual and it was definitely rape. Chris is saying all the things a rapist says... blaming the victim, marginalizing the crime, using sex as a tool for exerting power over a weaker person, and turning the tables to try to make people think he is the victim. The fact that he is eager now to raise money to buy the house from under Barb and kick her out to a nursing home is clear evidence that the sex wasn't because of misplaced affection. Affection and attraction had absolutely nothing to do with it. Sex to Chris was about exerting power over Barb. For many years, Barb held power over Chris, and when Barb started faltering and needed his help he resented it. When Barb got weak enough mentally, he took his revenge by exerting the ultimate power over her. She told him to stop and he overpowered her. When she realized what had happened, she couldn't say anything about it because without Chris to help her, she wouldn't be able to live the life she was used to at 14 BC. She kept quiet, and Chris proceeded to get how to books about the best way to rape her without leaving a mark, and put big red X's on the calendar to mark the nights he was going to overpower her next. To Chris, he was stepping into the shoes of the man of the house- Bob Chandler.

I don't deny that Barb was a lousy person. But now she's a weak lousy person. Chris is the one that controlled and directed the situation, forcing Barb to do what he told her to do and keep her mouth shut. Chris is a monster.

Maybe he always was a monster, just too subjugated to cause any real trouble. But now that he's learned how to take power over the weak, Chris isn't just a threat to old people... he is a threat to anyone more powerless than he is. Sex isn't about attraction to him. He doesn't fantasize about old ladies. Sex is about power to him. He plays back the sickest power trip tropes in his head from the porn he obsessed over for years. He's a threat to small children, mentally unstable people, elderly people and non-self sufficient handicapped people.

Regardless of whether they can make a solid rape case against Chris or not, he is definitely a rapist. He doesn't need a group home. He would prey on people there too. He needs a prison cell.
In a novel, Barb would've been left to deal with Chris on her own for the rest of her life. Ironically, the same internet that's in part responsible for Chris turning out the way he did is what saved her from that fate.
 
This means that Chris will be in jail for some number of months while he awaits an actual trial.
Isn't there a 1 year limit to how long Chris can be locked up without conviction though?

Trying to manifest Chris trying to punch the judge and getting dragged by 7 police officers, kicking and screaming.
That kind of thing has happened to Chris at least 3 times already:

- the alleged incident in elementary school
- the incident at Target during the "Love Quest"
- the alleged incident at the mental hospital

Also he had that public meltdown (sans being restrained) at that convention.
 
I doubt they even bothered to do a DNA test. I mean lab fees aren't cheap, and who else's DNA would be on used condoms found in 14BLC?
Some guy called "Reasonable Doubt." If Chris suddenly takes the Shaggy Defense, they'll need some actual proof other than "lol who else would fuck Barb?"
 
Isn't there a 1 year limit to how long Chris can be locked up without conviction though?

No, but if he was only going to be charged with a misdemeanor then it would be likely that he'd be released with time served. Time served is usually credited against your sentence, so if your charge wouldn't exceed 1 year of imprisonment and you are imprisoned for 1 year... well you can see where this is going.

There is a right to a speedy trial but it's waived if the defendant is the one seeking a continuance or agreeing to a continuance.
 
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