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CarlosDanger said:
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He corrected this was 772 ballots, this is Maricopa county where over 100k people voted in person today.
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Correct. Kari urged her voters to vote in person today. What we're seeing is early votes that were mailed in. Robson is currently leading by 9 points, but they won't get today's votes counted until much later tonight, even tomorrow.

Blake Masters, Mark Finchum, and Abe Hamaday, all Trump endorsed, are currently leading at about 55% counted. As I said earlier today, it's going to be a squeaker.

C'mon Kari!
 
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Slappy McGherkin said:
Correct. Kari urged her voters to vote in person today. What we're seeing is early votes that were mailed in. Robson is currently leading by 9 points, but they won't get today's votes counted until much later tonight, even tomorrow.

Blake Masters, Mark Finchum, and Abe Hamaday, all Trump endorsed, are currently leading at about 55% counted. As I said earlier today, it's going to be a squeaker.

C'mon Kari!
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Remember when vote counting was finished day-of?
 
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On the Kansas Abortion vote. We have to remember a few things, Democrats pushed a huge amount of money into their get-out-the-vote apparatuses. They used their entire machine in Kansas to push the issue. Meanwhile the pro-life activists which were largely tooled up for lobbying legislators, had to try to compete. The Republican machine, such as it is, really wasn't used. Very little "out of State" Republican money went to Kansas.

Like it or not, it has become a State by State ballot issue like Gun Rights have, and now the Pro-Life side has to re-center around that reality. New voter outreach groups will have to be made, and older pro-life organizations will have to be reformed. It's a new ballgame folks, we just have to deal with it.
 
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Breadbassket said:
If you actively discourage immigration and convince people not to go to a certain country anymore while also proactively punishing people who violate the rules, its probably cheaper then a lot of social program (welfare, free medicare, etc.) in the long term. If a person from the start thinks their trip to enter into a country will be in a vain they will not attempt it to begin with if they have a say in the matter.
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The guy I was speaking to stated that the cartels we roughly equal to a small military and that it would basically just be one protracted war or something to that effect.
 
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BONE_Buddy said:
On the Kansas Abortion vote. We have to remember a few things, Democrats pushed a huge amount of money into their get-out-the-vote apparatuses. They used their entire machine in Kansas to push the issue. Meanwhile the pro-life activists which were largely tooled up for lobbying legislators, had to try to compete. The Republican machine, such as it is, really wasn't used. Very little "out of State" Republican money went to Kansas.

Like it or not, it has become a State by State ballot issue like Gun Rights have, and now the Pro-Life side has to re-center around that reality. New voter outreach groups will have to be made, and older pro-life organizations will have to be reformed. It's a new ballgame folks, we just have to deal with it.
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More importantly, as @Gehenna and others have pointed out, most people are generally okay with abortion being an option. It's only when you specify which trimester that the more pro-life side becomes evident.

Again, Kansas could quite easily pass a heartbeat bill or a bill limiting abortion to the first twelve weeks.
 
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I don't want to get us too off track and get this entire conversation yeeted into the Abortion debate containment thread, but I think this is relevant.

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More importantly, as @Gehenna and others have pointed out, most people are generally okay with abortion being an option. It's only when you specify which trimester that the more pro-life side becomes evident.

Again, Kansas could quite easily pass a heartbeat bill or a bill limiting abortion to the first twelve weeks.
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This kind-of what I mean. The Pro-Life lobby has spent relatively little money and effort in educating/propagandizing the general public. Meanwhile the Pro-Choice lobby has spent a lot of money and effort pushing the idea that abortions are overwhelmingly a medical necessity, and that fraction of a percent are pure convenience terminations.

In other words, Pro-Life groups are going to have to start doing a lot more State level public outreach to educate the public on their worldview, and countering the narratives of the Pro-Choice groups.
 
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Republicans will stoop to anything, no matter how degrading, to get a single asspat from liberals who hate them.
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That assumes the RINOs of the Uniparty actually care. They get paid regardless what actually happens. Alls they have to do is say the right things at the right times on MSM, while they make the backroom deals to secure their positions.
 
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
The guy I was speaking to stated that the cartels we roughly equal to a small military and that it would basically just be one protracted war or something to that effect.
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Cartels are a criminal plague that have been allowed to fester thanks to corruption and individuals in power acting in a conflict of interest with their own people. Considering how well they fared against the presidential convoy of Guatemala of all things, I think they would suffer badly in the event of a clash with a more how to say "determined" force. If an American president acted with the same bravado they did with drone striking some Islamic jihadist leader with a Mexican cartel boss the problem would sort itself out. Then if push came to a shove and soldiers had to move into Mexico to rip the drug-addled weed from the earth, it wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
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If my napkin math is correct, that's roughly one final warning every two days. Why would anyone expect anything to happen?
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If the Chinese were on their game, they'll have inserted an agent who offers the hag some ice cream laced with botulinum toxin. Easy.
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Bold of you to assume her constant use of Botox hasn't given her immunity...
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From Project Veritas, the FBI's "Domestic Terrorism Symbols Guide":
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I've got the FBI's violent militia symbol right here...
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Fuckers can take my waifu memes from my cold dead hands.
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I wonder when they'll start trying to go after Molly Pitcher. A married, Christian, white cisgendered woman who fully exercised her second amendment rights. She's everything modern progs hate.
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After her there's always Private Robert Shurtleff Deborah Sampson, Fourth Massachusetts Infantry Regiment. Not exactly very feminine since she spent half her childhood doing farm labor as an indentured servant, but I certainly couldn't pry a musket ball out of my own thigh with a pocketknife and no anesthetic.
 
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Breadbassket said:
Cartels are a criminal plague that have been allowed to fester thanks to corruption and individuals in power acting in a conflict of interest with their own people. Considering how well they fared against the presidential convoy of Guatemala of all things, I think they would suffer badly in the event of a clash with a more how to say "determined" force. If an American president acted with the same bravado they did with drone striking some Islamic jihadist leader with a Mexican cartel boss the problem would sort itself out. Then if push came to a shove and soldiers had to move into Mexico to rip the drug-addled weed from the earth, it wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
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Oh yes Totally. There wouldn't be a cartel if we didn't want it. I do believe that was what the "war on drugs" was a cover for. #tinfoilhatfrogsgay
 
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