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[seri0us]

so were sprays but someone had to ruin that with an exaggerated scare campaign and got them disabled by default for clients and servers.

who was it again

 

[RSLUG30]

who was it again

Zeeastrous
discussion in this thread about him - https://kiwifarms.net/threads/team-fortress-2-community.84172/post-9932518

 

[John Freeman]

One of the biggest props I will give to valve is their professionalism. Lots of these modern dev teams like treyarch, bungee, and a few indie groups are full of tranny furry political sperg retards who shoehorn their faggotry everywhere they can. Valve engineers on the other hand are seasoned professionals. If there’s even a single tranny in their office I wouldn’t know. They are grown adults with extensive education, credentials, and they’re qualified professionals. They don’t behave like children.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

New StabbyStabby video. I used to watch this guy 10 years ago when I played competitive. I only ever got good at Soldier and Demo. Watching him makes me want to put some serious hours on Spy.

 

[Wünderkind]

One of the biggest props I will give to valve is their professionalism. Lots of these modern dev teams like treyarch, bungee, and a few indie groups are full of tranny furry political sperg retards who shoehorn their faggotry everywhere they can. Valve engineers on the other hand are seasoned professionals. If there’s even a single tranny in their office I wouldn’t know. They are grown adults with extensive education, credentials, and they’re qualified professionals. They don’t behave like children.

their refusal to acknowledge pride month/BLM on their twitter inspired much bumhurt, but all that shows is how insane things have become and how they've mysteriously resisted falling into it

 

[Liquid Marlon]

The game is fucked beyond all recognition in community, casual, and comp and the only reason I keep it installed anymore is in the vain hope maybe I'll see [update required]

The main reason why I do is for GMOD, there's a vague hope that times will change but that's a side reason.

 

[ABE LINN COHN]

they've mysteriously resisted falling into it

Private company, no need to worry about ESG score

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Its pretty hillarious that tf2 its abandoned and bot overun state still managed outlast overwatch "the tf2 killer". I can't imagine any other online game that could last this long without patches to keep things fresh.

 

[Get Fisted]

Its pretty hillarious that tf2 its abandoned and bot overun state still managed outlast overwatch "the tf2 killer". I can't imagine any other online game that could last this long without patches to keep things fresh.

TF2 never looped back around to remove a slot from your team and then tell you you can only play certain fucking things. Overwatch was mismanaged and mangled to death, the only reason they're even going through with more is for the chance to release a hoard of new skins at the same time that fucking content mill.

 

[John Freeman]

New StabbyStabby video. I used to watch this guy 10 years ago when I played competitive. I only ever got good at Soldier and Demo. Watching him makes me want to put some serious hours on Spy.

He’s good and nostalgic, but his game is hard to look at

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

so were sprays but someone had to ruin that with an exaggerated scare campaign and got them disabled by default for clients and servers.

Is that why I can’t see what I spray anymore?

 

[vertebrae]

I'd say there's actually an equal amount of /ourguy/s to trannies in TF2. Especially when you compare it to most other games

NA is absolutely not like this at ALL, so many troons and furfags it's unbelievable

 

[Born to Be Wasted]

NA is absolutely not like this at ALL, so many troons and furfags it's unbelievable

They seem to have invaded every community on the internet ( especially ones related to hobbies ). It's so fucking sad.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

They seem to have invaded every community on the internet ( especially ones related to hobbies ). It's so fucking sad.

They invaded more than communities on the internet. Woman spaces (like washrooms and dressing rooms)
It's due to being fans of the hobby and being attention whores making the hobby not fun and retaredly political.

 

[Breadbassket]

I came across some videos that go over the demise of a few servers like Casual.tf and Creators.tf that some here may find insightful:

They may have some info in them that hasn't been brought up in this thread before.

 

[John Freeman]

A lot of them threw bitch fits because they didn't get the anti-cheating halo, which was a reward Valve gave to players who didn't use some afk software to farm drops. Because of this, they started to target players who had them.

That was 2009 thought. It's been 13 years. Again, I'll remind you of Tf2's (and gaming in general) cultural shift around 2015 or 2016. Gamers used to be pretty sweaty and toxic, but were skillful and could take a fucking joke and shit talk. They casually tossed around words like "nigger" and "faggot" which are grounds for a kick in most Tf2 servers now. They were sweats, but they were tough as nails. They were ragepigs but smart and adaptable. The only truly "annoying" people were children and the rare manchild. Things have changed now. The game is a lot more casual and laid back now, which I appreciate. It's nice that not every lobby has 7 sweats trying to kick you for being the 3rd spy on the team or being too low on the scoreboard. That said, it's a tradeoff. As much as I wont miss being a teenager in 2007 and getting owned by people who were playing boomer shooters while I was in diapers, and getting kicked for barely understanding how wasd controls work, I also will miss the thicker skin of gamers, and their willingness to try. If I'm even in a slightly competitive mood I have to join a community server, because on casual half the team doesn't even try. Like, I don't even mean they just don't sweat, they basically throw the game. Friendlies are probably the most annoying thing I've ever seen, especially when they watch someone from the other team kill your ass. Literal wasted player slot. That, and their idea of "humor" and "insults". Their trash talk is the most innocuous lefty bullshit. They call eachother shit like "daft sponge" and "poopy cum stain" like a bunch of fucking cr1tical clones (he's basically representative of most tf2 players sense of humor). And lots of players think its particularly funny to name yourself some random bullshit like "fish" and every time you die or get a kill click a bind that puts "fish" in chat. It's not annoying but its not fucking funny. And god forbid you drop a nigger or faggot, or the like. Even in jest. If you're not outright kicked, you get dogpiled by a bunch of limp dick retards, which is really fucking annoying. And thats if chat isn't already a political warzone. Do you know how often I see two retards going at it in a political discussion in chat? You have fewer characters to work with than you do on Twitter, tf2 chat is not the place for a political discussion. Play the fucking game.

TL;DR: Tf2 players have become less sweaty but in exchange they've become giant gaping vaginas.

 

[John Freeman]

their refusal to acknowledge pride month/BLM on their twitter inspired much bumhurt, but all that shows is how insane things have become and how they've mysteriously resisted falling into it

They have no obligations to any shareholders as they're private, and Gabe has historically championed values like free speech and expression. Dude literally left Harvard over a religious disagreement, and fucked off from a well paying and secure job at Microsoft at its peak to start a gaming empire. If he has any fucks to give it's only to spite the groups trying to ruin him for giving none. He has no ESG score and no obligation to BlackCock or any government organization. Even when he's doing fragrantly anti-consumer greedy jew shit, I can't help but respect him for giving the finger to literally every world government or authority.

 

[John Freeman]

Apologies for the triple post. It's difficult to get so many ideas off in a few posts and I've been meaning to share most of this shit for a while.

I have a few ideas for what changes need to be made to tf2

Gameplay wise, I think casual should fix its settings
- I think there should be a limit of 3 per class. As hilarious as the meme of the entire team going one class was in 2008, it is not funny the millionth time in 2022. This will also encourage using community servers for people who wanna fuck around.
- Random crits and random spread should be disabled. Neither do anything for gameplay.
- Enable things like sprays and alltalk. Also put switching teams and spectator mode back into the game.

In terms of optimization and settings
- Valve needs to get rid of weapon skins and all of the ugly, unsightly unusual effects and hats that exist right now. Just straight delete them from the game. Fuck the traders. They also need to remove item grades. Fuck this elite factory new bullshit, this isn't cs:go. Skins in my opinion do have the potential to be nice though, but I think they should all be factory new (as in remove the wears) and no item grades (so they're all unique with a skin).
- Valve should remove one cosmetic slot, and replace the remaining two with a dedicated hat and a dedicated misc slot. That way these awful, egregious loadouts that rape the artstyle aren't possible anymore, and it makes the game run smoother. They also need to optimize the game so things like reloading animations and reflection mapping look like they did in the beta. Realistic and easy on the eyes. Even little things like spys gun losing bullets, and demos grenade launcher actually switching barrels. People will not notice them if you fix them, but they will notice them if they remain broken.
- Update the default settings and HUD. Also update and expand the tutorials. Make them more modern and easy to look at
- Update the Mann Co. Store. If they did like a massive marketing campaign with TV and billboards and tournaments and youtube and shit, the game WOULD blow up in player numbers. It just has that potential and pull. It's got a cartoon artstyle and is fun and satisfying to play. Kids and teenagers would fucking flock to the game like moths to a light if it had more publicity. Most people can recognize meet the spy and the gmod shit but they probably dont even know what game its from. Mann Co. Store should make the price for every individual weapon like 99 cents, but make those starter packs significantly cheaper and throw in a few nametags or taunts to sweeten the deal. Like if some kid borrowed moms credit card it should be no more than 20 dollars to buy all the weapon packs, and they get some sweets on the side.
- They need to fix the maps. Almost ever single non community map is really fucked up. Not in terms of gameplay, but things like weird geometry and other stupid quirks. Like how come the tape reels in the 2fort basement aren't animated, or the console screens? How come the computers arent animated? Why are supply cabinets so weird? Wacky shit like that. Like in 2fort for example, on the RED courtyard, you can move a solid meter to the left of the main staircase and not fall off, because they didnt bother to clip the fucking collision mapping. You literally float in the air. And you know how every map has a lot of those big analog cameras? They should animate those moving from left to right or something. Just little touches like that

That is my autistic rant. I apologize.

 

[seri0us]

Friendlies are probably the most annoying thing I've ever seen, especially when they watch someone from the other team kill your ass. Literal wasted player slot. That, and their idea of "humor" and "insults". Their trash talk is the most innocuous lefty bullshit.

I have some good memories of killing a bunch of friendlies at once and getting kicked for playing the game properly.

 

[John Freeman]

I have some good memories of killing a bunch of friendlies at once and getting kicked for playing the game properly.

I know right. How fucking infuriating is it to have to wait another minute for queue because some literal child got angry you used a gun in a gun game.