Canada is a failed state

[NewLisbonShitlord]

I love Canada, Kiwis.

I love this country so much. We're not our shitty government. We're not the shitty commissars they pay in the media.

I love our Anglo-Celtic and Franco roots. I love the confederation poets.

My job has taken me to several major population centres from Halifax, to Ottawa, to Calgary and beyond and they all have their own awesome local cultures except for Vancouver which is literally a triad money laundering operation masquerading as a city fuck that place holy shit.

People rag on Ottawa a lot but man, folks from valley and in the 'burbs (some of them, anyways) are great, salt of the earth people. Even most mid-to-low level public servants are just working stiffs who care about serving their fellow canucks. Some small pockets of foreigner populations that actually respect our values too, the Catholic Lebanese in Ottawa, Greeks in Montreal, descendents of the Vietnamese boat people. Most Canadians are great people, and our country is one of the most beautiful in the world.

The problem is our government has lost touch with the average Canadian. Both of the main parties only care about their wealthy donors and friends. Though skippy belongs to one of those monoparties and he should be viewed with some suspicion - the fact that he's talking to regular folks and listening to what their grievances are is making the Liberal elites and the managerial class so fucking mad.

You know why? These people have abandoned their Canadian identity in favour of some kind of weird, global cosmopolitan twitter hivemind shit.

Regular canucks whose families have been here for generations are seeing their neighbourhoods being literally bought out by wealthy, politically connected douchebags and foreign investors and they don't see a future for themselves in their own home. They ask their elected officials for help and they get ignored, laughed at and called racists. Now the entire media establishment is on board with this massive online harms bill bullshit.

I don't think we can survive another liberal administration. I didn't like Harper back in the day but I'm tellin' ya, I'd gladly go back to those days.

My SO and I have been discussing leaving the country and I hate that this is an option I'm considering. My government and the shitty, internationalist trash bags they're in bed with are driving us out of our home.

And even if we get a change in government, there's going to need to be a mass purge of the media and our institutions because it's not just the government, the entire inclusivity sector and all the commie bullshit that goes with it needs to go. All of those people need to be fired. I just don't see that happening.

Thanks for letting me get this off the ol' chest, Kiwis.

Keep your heads up, Canucks. There's always tomorrow eh.


EDIT: The people who love this country and it's roots are being driven out, meanwhile the people who hate it and who are hellbent into turning it into a Brazil tier social-experiment get to reap stay and burn everything that made this country great to the ground. It sucks.

 

[Dude Snakes]

That meme from the Patriot Post about Justin Trudeau might fit this thread. https://patriotpost.us/memes/90516-its-trudeau-2022-08-13
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PeeWee wore it better also don't compare him to Justin that is an insult.

 

[Never Scored]

The English Language continues its decline in Canada. Another 1.1% drop since 2016 and now only 54.9% of the people in Canada are native English speakers.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The English Language continues its decline in Canada. Another 1.1% drop since 2016 and now only 54.9% of the people in Canada are native English speakers.

Same for the French language and that give a tank of gas to separatists in Quebec. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/statistics-canada-language-census-2021-1.6553939

The proportion of people in Quebec who mainly speak French at home has continued to dwindle, according to Statistics Canada.

In 2021, 85.5 per cent of Quebecers reported speaking French at home at least regularly, according to census data published by the government agency Wednesday.

That compares to 87.1 per cent in 2016.

Although the number of people speaking French at home has increased — rising from 6.4 million in 2016 to 6.5 million in 2021 — they now make up 77.5 per cent of Quebecers, falling 1.5 percentage points in five years.

The share of Quebecers who most often speak French at home equally with another language increased slightly, from 3.3 per cent in 2016 to 3.5 per cent in 2021.

The census shows French remains the first official language spoken by more than 90 per cent of Quebecers. Especially high numbers were reported in the Bas-Saint-Laurent (99.1 per cent), Mauricie (97.9 per cent) and Laurentians (91.3 per cent).

And there's a bit more on the table about how language is changing in Canada.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

Fun thing that my famy is dealing with.

Aunt has a tumor the size of a golf ball behind her right eye. It's causing it to bulge out considerably and droop, literally, out of the socket.

Uncle is a doctor in Australia and doesn't understand why Canadian healthcare won't operate to remove it, as this appeared during the first lockdown so it's not new.

Aunt is at risk of seizures and other problems and could potentially die too.

It's not even that she's on a waiting list for surgery, shes not, but doctors want a third, and fourth examination (several months from now). I'm a cynic, but suspect that the next examination is just a way for them to "delay" as my uncle says it should not be necessary at this point considering how large the tumor is and how urgent it would be to remove it. An examination before surgery would be fine, but this ain't it.

People are basically recommending that we go to private healthcare to solve the problem making this effectively two tier healthcare.

Canada, where wait lines for essential surgeries are so long, your eye will pop out of it's socket and you might as well pay for private medical aid.

You think you can afford it though? at least in neighbouring states real estate is affordable and so is rent. People have to pay for healthcare, deductibles, co-pay's even with employer coverage but as I said.. other things are cheaper. In Canada everything is expensive.

Adding everything up together it just makes sense to leave Canada.

 

[TurdFondler]

I had a foreign timmies worker not understand a word of what I was trying to say, he didn't speak a lick of english. There's absolutely no language proficiency requirements in retail jobs anymore, and it's insane.

Ottawa has always been the worst. The entire system, right down to voting districts needs to go, provinces need a lot more autonomy and instead of just handing money to Quebec/Ontario, there needs to be a real investment in industry in the other provinces.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

I had a foreign timmies worker not understand a word of what I was trying to say, he didn't speak a lick of english. There's absolutely no language proficiency requirements in retail jobs anymore, and it's insane.

Ottawa has always been the worst. The entire system, right down to voting districts needs to go, provinces need a lot more autonomy and instead of just handing money to Quebec/Ontario, there needs to be a real investment in industry in the other provinces.

I'm in Ontario and this is an increasing but more recent phenomenon for us. But for the people out in B.C I've heard them talk about this type of thing being common in Vancouver especially for many decades. There are entire parts of that city with no English proficiency.. at all. Apparently this started in the 1980's with a large influx of non english speaking Asians. Ontario is going down this path.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

You think you can afford it though? at least in neighbouring states real estate is affordable and so is rent. People have to pay for healthcare, deductibles, co-pay's even with employer coverage but as I said.. other things are cheaper. In Canada everything is expensive.

Adding everything up together it just makes sense to leave Canada.

I don't think my aunt/family will move south. Theyre too old and all reaching retirement age at this point (boomers), so whatever happens, its going to rely on the Canadian healthcare system and I don't have good feelings with that.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/doctor-shortage-hearst-er-1.6516837

Wingham, Ont. hospital temporarily closing ER again overnight on Monday

WINGHAM, Ont. — A hospital in a small Ontario community is temporarily closing its emergency department again. The Listowel-Wingham Hospital Alliance says the ER at its Wingham hospital will be closed from Monday at 5 p.m. until Tuesday at 7 a.m.

www.timminstoday.com

Stuff like that doesn't give me any confidence in the system either.

I get the feeling that the non-boomer generation is going to be the one that really leaves the province en greater mass; which will exasperate the problems because the Ontario (and Canadian government in part) will push for more immigration to effectively be "scabs" for domestic labour demanding higher standards or leaving.

My mom was telling me about how some of her friends were moving out West to Alberta, its maybe an option, but I'm not sure if its even the right one as, while Alberta is better than Ontario (government that is stronger for business, oil, etc) its not necessarily the best and the Canadian fed is still affecting the process.

If the question is "Can I afford it?" I honestly don't know, I'm a pretty average millennial, but it seems to me that the future trajectory of the US, regardless of how I may land, seems infinitely better than the way Canada is going right now. Either way, currently living in Europe myself and was just back in Canada for the summer to visit family, so I already got out myself. The way I'm looking at Ontario now, just seems almost parallel to someone looking at Pennsylvania or much of the rust belt before the great sell off in the mid to late 80s. On the precipice of the "hollowing out". I just miss Canada and North America overall, thats my culture.

Relevant video for this thread, and it does get into the Brain Drain issue for the US

 

[Sweetpeaa]

I have to talk about Ontario's poor treatment of nurses and teacher's from both the government and the public. I've never heard of a province or state that goes after these two professions so much than Ontario. Even in Texas Teacher's and nurses are paid well and there is no orchestrated attack on them from Republican's equivalent to Torie's in Ontario.

What most nurses make in texas


What most teachers make in Texas, And their salaries were raised. And that's their minimum salary.




Even Texas see's a value in nurses and educators. Exactly what is the matter with Ontario? Even the general public here wants to destroy public education and get rid of school's. You hear this shit all the time in political circle's in this province. I'm becoming convinced that we have a very large pool of subnormal intelligence folks living in this place and they're wanting to uphold a society of complete ignorance to bring others down to their level.

Brain drain is already skyrocketing for nurses, doctor's and soon.. teacher's. I applaud them for leaving at this point. Absolute disgrace.

 

[Local Fed]

I have to talk about Ontario's poor treatment of nurses and teacher's from both the government and the public. I've never heard of a province or state that goes after these two professions so much than Ontario. Even in Texas Teacher's and nurses are paid well and there is no orchestrated attack on them from Republican's equivalent to Torie's in Ontario.

What most nurses make in texas
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What most teachers make in Texas, And their salaries were raised. And that's their minimum salary.

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Even Texas see's a value in nurses and educators. Exactly what is the matter with Ontario? Even the general public here wants to destroy public education and get rid of school's. You hear this shit all the time in political circle's in this province. I'm becoming convinced that we have a very large pool of subnormal intelligence folks living in this place and they're wanting to uphold a society of complete ignorance to bring others down to their level.

Brain drain is already skyrocketing for nurses, doctor's and soon.. teacher's. I applaud them for leaving at this point. Absolute disgrace.

After seeing this rape of the apostrophe, it is now my life mission to ensure that English teachers in Ontario never make more than minimum wage until the results improve.

 

[TurdFondler]

Ontario is doing it on purpose to fully privatize. They just proposed private surgeries today. They will mistreat public nurses and make sure they have a salary cap so there's an incentive to switch.

 

[OutInTheRain]

The hospitals in Ontario are already privately run, unlike some other provinces, usually as part of some network linked to a University. Most private surgeries will happen in those same hospitals, with those same doctors and nurses. If it is implemented well. If this works out correctly, it will allows surgeons to complete more surgeries beyond what is capped in OHIP. I do think overtime Ontario will see more private specilaist clinics like Shouldice, a hernia specialist clinic in southern Ontario. IF it's implemented properly. However, I fully expect any fresh capital injected to the health system will vanish in an expansion of bureaucracy.

 

[TurdFondler]

I personally think the current painkiller shortage is due to a broken healthcare system, people treating long term symptoms with OTC pain meds.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

The hospitals in Ontario are already privately run, unlike some other provinces, usually as part of some network linked to a University. Most private surgeries will happen in those same hospitals, with those same doctors and nurses. If it is implemented well. If this works out correctly, it will allows surgeons to complete more surgeries beyond what is capped in OHIP. I do think overtime Ontario will see more private specilaist clinics like Shouldice, a hernia specialist clinic in southern Ontario. IF it's implemented properly. However, I fully expect any fresh capital injected to the health system will vanish in an expansion of bureaucracy.

Yeah just like in Quebec,...that reminds me of this scene from the movie "Les Invasions Barbares"(The Barbarian invasions) who's still relevant today.

 

[doesnotglow]

The leftist response to saving Canadian healthcare is to "fund it adequately" or "pay nurses more" or some other variation of feel good delusion but from that report somebody posted earlier the numbers are grim.

This points to a total boomerpocalypse. Canada is heading into a scenario where all the tax revenues will go towards healthcare to maintain it at an already insubstantial level, and that diverts funding from an actually productive and innovative base economy that enables the healthcare sector to exist at all. This will accelerate the collapse. Funding increases every year and the percentage of the provincial budgets allocated increases every year. At what point is it game over? Why would any young person want all their tax money collected to go to boomers who own multimillion dollar housing assets? This is a system that pays out earlier entrants at the cost of late entrants, the textbook definition of a ponzi scheme. It's no wonder the government is getting aggressive on euthanasia, they don't really have a choice.

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

I love Canada, Kiwis.

I love this country so much. We're not our shitty government. We're not the shitty commissars they pay in the media.

I love our Anglo-Celtic and Franco roots. I love the confederation poets.

My job has taken me to several major population centres from Halifax, to Ottawa, to Calgary and beyond and they all have their own awesome local cultures except for Vancouver which is literally a triad money laundering operation masquerading as a city fuck that place holy shit.

People rag on Ottawa a lot but man, folks from valley and in the 'burbs (some of them, anyways) are great, salt of the earth people. Even most mid-to-low level public servants are just working stiffs who care about serving their fellow canucks. Some small pockets of foreigner populations that actually respect our values too, the Catholic Lebanese in Ottawa, Greeks in Montreal, descendents of the Vietnamese boat people. Most Canadians are great people, and our country is one of the most beautiful in the world.

The problem is our government has lost touch with the average Canadian. Both of the main parties only care about their wealthy donors and friends. Though skippy belongs to one of those monoparties and he should be viewed with some suspicion - the fact that he's talking to regular folks and listening to what their grievances are is making the Liberal elites and the managerial class so fucking mad.

You know why? These people have abandoned their Canadian identity in favour of some kind of weird, global cosmopolitan twitter hivemind shit.

Regular canucks whose families have been here for generations are seeing their neighbourhoods being literally bought out by wealthy, politically connected douchebags and foreign investors and they don't see a future for themselves in their own home. They ask their elected officials for help and they get ignored, laughed at and called racists. Now the entire media establishment is on board with this massive online harms bill bullshit.

I don't think we can survive another liberal administration. I didn't like Harper back in the day but I'm tellin' ya, I'd gladly go back to those days.

My SO and I have been discussing leaving the country and I hate that this is an option I'm considering. My government and the shitty, internationalist trash bags they're in bed with are driving us out of our home.

And even if we get a change in government, there's going to need to be a mass purge of the media and our institutions because it's not just the government, the entire inclusivity sector and all the commie bullshit that goes with it needs to go. All of those people need to be fired. I just don't see that happening.

Thanks for letting me get this off the ol' chest, Kiwis.

Keep your heads up, Canucks. There's always tomorrow eh.


EDIT: The people who love this country and it's roots are being driven out, meanwhile the people who hate it and who are hellbent into turning it into a Brazil tier social-experiment get to reap stay and burn everything that made this country great to the ground. It sucks.

Is the government still watching you post?

 

[Fatboi Gus]

The leftist response to saving Canadian healthcare is to "fund it adequately" or "pay nurses more" or some other variation of feel good delusion but from that report somebody posted earlier the numbers are grim.

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This points to a total boomerpocalypse. Canada is heading into a scenario where all the tax revenues will go towards healthcare to maintain it at an already insubstantial level, and that diverts funding from an actually productive and innovative base economy that enables the healthcare sector to exist at all. This will accelerate the collapse. Funding increases every year and the percentage of the provincial budgets allocated increases every year. At what point is it game over? Why would any young person want all their tax money collected to go to boomers who own multimillion dollar housing assets? This is a system that pays out earlier entrants at the cost of late entrants, the textbook definition of a ponzi scheme. It's no wonder the government is getting aggressive on euthanasia, they don't really have a choice.

I believe I was the one who posted the report. The funniest thing here is that EVERYONE, from the government decision makers to people workimg in the system to even MHA program teachers, knows that the system is doomed an unrecoverable at this point. No one wants to blink and be the first to try and save it however. The reason is simple: it'd create a LOT of pain and will likely fail unless the goal is to save limited but critical parts of it. And evwn then, people will blame you for taking the difficult but realistic choices meant to prevent a total loss (see: Thatcher).

Shit's fucked but I can tell you guys from experience, both as patient and worker: private is better. Don't dread it.

 

[doesnotglow]

Here's some more euthanasia insanity. Canada's euthanasia lobby is seeking the ability for parents to kill their kids if they are over 12, and if they are 16 the kids get to decide themselves. Next year is when mental illness will be allowed for euthanasia. Can some parent rope their 12 year old troon child? What if your low functioning autist child has an episode and you want them gone? What if you have munchausen by proxy and you want to kill your kid because you are fucking insane? This reads like some pedo ritualistic sacrifice shit. Morally Canada is completely beyond the pale, a place of clown-like moral abyss. This is the country where a .22 is too dangerous to have, but you can have your child lethal injected if you want.

 

[Ser Prize]

>Be me
>Live in Canada in 2032
>Dickless virgin, literally, because got groomed into cutting off my dick as a teenager
>The family of 12 Syrian immigrants living in my living room are on their 5th call to prayer today
>Realize that its not even my living room, its a 4 meter by 4 meter parking garage unit owned by Chinese investors because the average house now costs 20 million
>Tip my hat off to them anyways and get yelled at for cultural imperialism
>Hear a loud thud
>Grandpa just got culturally enriched by a group of young soundcloud rappers on monoscooters
>Don't have any money because he's still being punished for legally sending money via paypal to the Truckers
>Don't have any money either because tax rates are now at 70% and the rest has to go to timmies and my rent on this parking garage unit
>Wait list for a doctor to see him is 9 years because all the doctors moved south to the US years ago
>Call the hospital anyways
>They send a man in a gimp mask to shoot him because in 2028 police not only had to embrace gay, but also kink.
>Euthanasia time

Canada

>if only we had tried MORE socialism

 

[Ser Prize]

Fun thing that my famy is dealing with.

Aunt has a tumor the size of a golf ball behind her right eye. It's causing it to bulge out considerably and droop, literally, out of the socket.

Uncle is a doctor in Australia and doesn't understand why Canadian healthcare won't operate to remove it, as this appeared during the first lockdown so it's not new.

Aunt is at risk of seizures and other problems and could potentially die too.

It's not even that she's on a waiting list for surgery, shes not, but doctors want a third, and fourth examination (several months from now). I'm a cynic, but suspect that the next examination is just a way for them to "delay" as my uncle says it should not be necessary at this point considering how large the tumor is and how urgent it would be to remove it. An examination before surgery would be fine, but this ain't it.

People are basically recommending that we go to private healthcare to solve the problem making this effectively two tier healthcare.

Canada, where wait lines for essential surgeries are so long, your eye will pop out of it's socket and you might as well pay for private medical aid.

They're basically 'examining' it again and again in hopes she dies and saves the tax payers the burden. My mom went through that when her foot got highly infected and they kept spacing appointments months apart to "examine it" so they could consider how to fix it.

Double post because fuck you, socialized medicine sucks and socialists get the bullet.