The HBO Max/Discovery Griefing Thread - look how they massacred my boys
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Reading the article, all 6 projects named are still in the works and will be shipped around just not HBO Max originals anymore. Does also say a new tv show is in the works. Think people are just jumping to conclusions as the just read what the original poster said (and was wrong about) rather than the article it's self he linked, mean all the projects could get shit canned if they fail to find a new place to air but as of right now all still safe and still in development.
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It’s ridiculously rough. I have no clue why you’d have to live in Los Angeles, New York or Dallas/Fort Worth to do voice acting if you’re not doing motion capture and have the equipment/acoustics yourself. Some companies seem to be giving up and are just hiring theatre actors because they’re cheaper and easier to deal with. There’s not a single recognizable voice actor in the new Xenoblade Chronicles game nor FFXIV: A Realm Reborn. People have just opted to do Twitter castings or commercials/narrations nowadays. And pay sometimes sucks too.
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More than two years after the launch of HBO Max, Warner Bros. is making a major pivot back to PVOD in yet another strategic move under new owner Warner Bros. Discovery.
WBD already announced the removal of dozens of titles from HBO Max in a move to cut costs amid an aggressive goal to make its direct-to-consumer segment profitable by 2024, and is also exploring the creation of a FAST service alongside its plan to merge HBO Max and Discovery+ into one offering in 2023.
But what may be even more remarkable is Warners has done away with its prior commitment to HBO Max receiving films from its 2022 slate 45 days after release, starting with “Elvis.” After box office smash “The Batman” and less-lucrative “Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore” hit the service on time, “Elvis” can only be watched at home currently via VOD outlets, for a premium fee.
This puts Warners in the same camp as its competitors, who are all utilizing shorter theatrical windows to get films on digital marketplaces and streaming quicker but have done so on a case-by-case basis, as opposed to the initial 45-day strategy it announced in 2021 after that year’s entire theatrical slate was given simultaneous streaming debuts.
This doesn’t change the decades-long arrangement Warners has had with HBO that sees its theatrical output arrive there first after titles hit the home entertainment market. This window is typically referred to as Pay 1 and historically saw studios arrange such deals with premium TV networks first, but such outlets have almost unanimously been replaced by streaming services in recent years. Despite its own streaming business, Disney has elected to continue licensing 20th Century films to HBO on a selective basis after the prior deal set under Fox expired.
Having already grossed more than $140 million domestically, Warners’ “Elvis” managed to top the charts of every VOD outlet after its digital release earlier in August after WBD CEO David Zaslav openly praised the film during the company’s last earnings call, which saw leadership field tense questions over its strategy, including the decision to scrap any kind of release for planned HBO Max original “Batgirl,” even though the film was nearly finished.
These strategy pivots certainly seem daunting when you consider how HBO Max has only been around for less than three years as competing services like Paramount+ and Peacock continue to experiment with releasing original films from their studio counterparts alongside or in lieu of wide releases in cinemas.
But when you look at competitor Sony Pictures, the only major studio that isn’t invested in the streaming game, it’s easier to see the logic behind Warners falling back into seller status.
Sony was relying heavily on selling and licensing its movies to SVOD as film exhibition made a gradual return throughout 2021. Then, “Spider-Man: No Way Home” hit theaters in December, becoming the top-earning film of the pandemic and besting the domestic hauls of historic hits like 2009’s “Avatar.”
But beyond theaters, “Spider-Man” helped to significantly lift home entertainment revenue for its motion picture business in the first half of 2022 alongside smaller hit “Uncharted,” which released in February. While “Uncharted” was one of the first films to fall under Sony’s new Pay-1 deal with Netflix, it didn’t hit the service until this past weekend.
Likewise, Sony had a muted presence at the box office in the second quarter of 2022, its theatrical revenue less than half of what home entertainment sales pulled in, showing that the prioritization of VOD can be a lucrative way to offset slower months at cinemas.
With big DC Entertainment films like “Black Adam” and “Shazam! Fury of the Gods” expected later this year, Warners’ early pivot back to VOD as its corporate parent embarks upon a long road to recovery is a step in the right direction.
Article makes a number of good points, but if WBD wants to go after Sony in the VOD market don't get why they wouldn't have moved something like SCOOB Holiday Haunt or those 5 animated movies they are now shipping around to VOD instead. But also worth noting Sony doesn't have a streamer unlike WBD does, so couldn't this just be taking away money from HBO Max and just replacing it with VoD revenue rather than generating a new revenue stream.
Also if this does work out wonder if this will change the type of movies they will make, such as taking risks on midbudget movies under the idea they will become profitable when they hit VOD. And we will see Disney and other abandon big budgeted movies made for streaming.
WBD already announced the removal of dozens of titles from HBO Max in a move to cut costs amid an aggressive goal to make its direct-to-consumer segment profitable by 2024, and is also exploring the creation of a FAST service alongside its plan to merge HBO Max and Discovery+ into one offering in 2023.
But what may be even more remarkable is Warners has done away with its prior commitment to HBO Max receiving films from its 2022 slate 45 days after release, starting with “Elvis.” After box office smash “The Batman” and less-lucrative “Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore” hit the service on time, “Elvis” can only be watched at home currently via VOD outlets, for a premium fee.
This puts Warners in the same camp as its competitors, who are all utilizing shorter theatrical windows to get films on digital marketplaces and streaming quicker but have done so on a case-by-case basis, as opposed to the initial 45-day strategy it announced in 2021 after that year’s entire theatrical slate was given simultaneous streaming debuts.
This doesn’t change the decades-long arrangement Warners has had with HBO that sees its theatrical output arrive there first after titles hit the home entertainment market. This window is typically referred to as Pay 1 and historically saw studios arrange such deals with premium TV networks first, but such outlets have almost unanimously been replaced by streaming services in recent years. Despite its own streaming business, Disney has elected to continue licensing 20th Century films to HBO on a selective basis after the prior deal set under Fox expired.
Having already grossed more than $140 million domestically, Warners’ “Elvis” managed to top the charts of every VOD outlet after its digital release earlier in August after WBD CEO David Zaslav openly praised the film during the company’s last earnings call, which saw leadership field tense questions over its strategy, including the decision to scrap any kind of release for planned HBO Max original “Batgirl,” even though the film was nearly finished.
These strategy pivots certainly seem daunting when you consider how HBO Max has only been around for less than three years as competing services like Paramount+ and Peacock continue to experiment with releasing original films from their studio counterparts alongside or in lieu of wide releases in cinemas.
But when you look at competitor Sony Pictures, the only major studio that isn’t invested in the streaming game, it’s easier to see the logic behind Warners falling back into seller status.
Sony was relying heavily on selling and licensing its movies to SVOD as film exhibition made a gradual return throughout 2021. Then, “Spider-Man: No Way Home” hit theaters in December, becoming the top-earning film of the pandemic and besting the domestic hauls of historic hits like 2009’s “Avatar.”
But beyond theaters, “Spider-Man” helped to significantly lift home entertainment revenue for its motion picture business in the first half of 2022 alongside smaller hit “Uncharted,” which released in February. While “Uncharted” was one of the first films to fall under Sony’s new Pay-1 deal with Netflix, it didn’t hit the service until this past weekend.
Likewise, Sony had a muted presence at the box office in the second quarter of 2022, its theatrical revenue less than half of what home entertainment sales pulled in, showing that the prioritization of VOD can be a lucrative way to offset slower months at cinemas.
With big DC Entertainment films like “Black Adam” and “Shazam! Fury of the Gods” expected later this year, Warners’ early pivot back to VOD as its corporate parent embarks upon a long road to recovery is a step in the right direction.
Article makes a number of good points, but if WBD wants to go after Sony in the VOD market don't get why they wouldn't have moved something like SCOOB Holiday Haunt or those 5 animated movies they are now shipping around to VOD instead. But also worth noting Sony doesn't have a streamer unlike WBD does, so couldn't this just be taking away money from HBO Max and just replacing it with VoD revenue rather than generating a new revenue stream.
Also if this does work out wonder if this will change the type of movies they will make, such as taking risks on midbudget movies under the idea they will become profitable when they hit VOD. And we will see Disney and other abandon big budgeted movies made for streaming.
Still makes me wonder if Adult Swim would still revive Close Enough from cancellation, or if Adult Swim would continue to air respective Aqua Teen, Venture Bros. and Metalocalypse TV movies on its network (or maybe put them on Netflix or Amazon).
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Those movies were always planned as VoD movies so think they are save. Mean just today the put out a trailer for a new Scooby Doo Halloween DVD/VoD movie, so clearly not moving on from market.
It is possible Adult Swim could pick the Close Enough up but will say it's heavily unlikely with WBD planning to spend less on animation as a whole, at most I could see them doing reruns and if it picks up new viewers then a comeback but I wouldn't hold your breath. however the good news it's still on itunes so doesn't seem to be a tax write off so always a chance for a comeback.
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I mean this is the power of an out of touch executive whose only expertise is on trashy reality tv and greenlit garbage like Honey Boo Boo. They don’t understand what normal people want
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Close Enough season 3 was pretty good but yeah Season 2 was horrible. Everything good about Season 2 was on the Swoletown episode.
I thought season 2 of Close Enough was okay, but I can see where the hate comes from. The third season was much better and was just as good as the first. Even then, it's pretty much Regular Show Adult Party Cartoon (except it's less abysmal and more tolerable than Ren & Stimpy APC).
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This kinda makes that “Serververse” crap from Space Jam 2 hilarious in hindsight.
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People telling me season 3 is good and people telling me it's bad are now roughly tied so I'll have to watch it in the near future and have my own opinion. If it's comparable to the first season or even just better than season 2 I'll start mourning.
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I think the irony is that, even though this was probably just super unfortunate timing, apparently WB Discovery lost nearly $20 billion in market cap after Zaslav's purge was announced.
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Not going to say that had no impact but lots of reasons for it such as the slow merger of the streaming apps or being very vague about many of their business plans, Also have reported revenue was lower than expected in the second quarter.I think the irony is that, even though this was probably just super unfortunate timing, apparently WB Discovery lost nearly $20 billion in market cap after Zaslav's purge was announced.
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Good easy read up on it, from the 6th
What happened
Shares of Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD 0.63%) fell 16.5% on Friday, after the media conglomerate reined in investors' growth expectations.So what
Warner Bros. Discovery was formed when AT&T spun off its WarnerMedia assets and merged them with Discovery. The combination joined popular TV networks like TBS, TNT, and CNN with streaming services HBO Max and Discovery+. The goal was to consolidate the company's power in the broadcast and cable industries and bolster its competitive position within the streaming arena.To do so, CEO David Zaslav made the controversial decision to scuttle Warner Bros. Discovery's fledgling streaming news service, CNN+, in April. He's also planning to combine the company's HBO Max and Discovery+ streaming services next year.
Yet the transition is unlikely to be smooth. On Thursday, Warner Bros. Discovery reported second-quarter revenue of $9.8 billion. That was well below Wall Street's expectations of $11.8 billion. It also generated a net loss of $3.4 billion, driven in part by more than $1 billion of restructuring and other charges.
Now what
Warner Bros. Discovery now expects its adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) to increase from $9 billion to $9.5 billion in fiscal 2022 to $12 billion in 2023. The company's new adjusted EBITDA goal is $2 billion less than its previous forecast of $14 billion.Still, management believes Warner Bros. Discovery could see its global streaming subscribers grow to 130 million by 2025, up from roughly 92 million at the end of the second quarter. However, judging by the stock's performance on Friday, investors aren't confident that the company can achieve its growth targets.
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I wouldn't be surprised if, knowing Zaslav and his penchant for low budget reality TV, the service could potentially lose subscribers, as it appears that in order for him to achieve profitability, he's going to rely on one or two big blockbuster shows to keep folks interested (House of the Dragon) while making every future show on the platform as cheap as possible.
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Yeah I don’t think there would be new subscribers to HBO Max given Zaslav pissed off lots of people and his reputation with reality TV will turn people off especially since that genre of television is part of why people cut cable.
Like the only thing HBO has is old IPs to rely on for an audience but I doubt there would be people into capeshit that didn’t already subscribe to HBO Max.
But unless there is some goldmine that would help, I won’t hold my breath for this to be saved.
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This kind of shit is precisely why piracy is always a moral right.
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Mean 2025 is a bit off and enough time will have past to see what his plans are like by then, how knows maybe he will turn things around, I doubt it but it is possible. But last year I would had said this was low balling it for HBO Max subs alone, but now yeah unsure if it will hit it. In 2025 the deal with Sky in parts of Europe will have ran out meaning they can now launch HBO Max there but I expect them to make a new HBO content deal with Sky and avoid putting the HBO shows on HBO Max until like a year after Sky shows them and streams them.
I hate the idea of a streamer moving stuff they own to avoid licensing fees, a big selling point to me would be watching all the old WB movies from the 30s onwards but that seems unlikely under him. But this isn't a WB issue only, all the streamers lack of old content, mean pretty sure the oldest Fox movie on Disney+/Hulu is the Sound of Music.
Also got to wonder what will happen with talent, if making movies streaming day one pissed off Nolan, what the hell is the tax write off going to do to him. Mean still going to get movies made, but if their is a bidding war or someone has two offers it is less likely it will go to WBD,
At this point the only thing sure if WBD will be for sale again soon, AT&T only agreed to merger it to make a sale easier to a tec company anyway and someone like Comcast buying it would have took longer than they would have wanted and had a higher likelihood of not getting government approval.
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All I gotta say is I'm so happy The Rehearsel got greenlit for a Season 2. Nathan Fielder playing his trademark autistic straightman while bewildering random people and actors is just hysterical to me.
Also the drama in the finale where he learned that his pseudo parenting actually resulting in a young boy actually imprinting on the kid's mind that Nathan was his Dad hit right in the feels.
Amazing show, can be a slow burn that will bore people who aren’t used to such comedy but I loved every minute of it.