The HBO Max/Discovery Griefing Thread - look how they massacred my boys

I wouldn't be surprised if, knowing Zaslav and his penchant for low budget reality TV, the service could potentially lose subscribers, as it appears that in order for him to achieve profitability, he's going to rely on one or two big blockbuster shows to keep folks interested (House of the Dragon) while making every future show on the platform as cheap as possible.
He seems to be leaving normal HBO alone, only show that was a tax write off was Here and Now a show that only lasted one season before getting canceled in 2019 and was a critical bomb, the other being Vinyl from 2016 which was seen a huge disappointment with the talent behind it and was Paramount Television was the production company behind it anyway, this one seems to have been just removed from HBO Max.

Also have the JJ Abrams HBO show that was canceled just before it was going to shoot, however that had a crazy $200 million+ budget for season 1 so you can see why that was canceled, pretty sure that is the only normal HBO show canceled so far. But shows like The Rehearsel and Curb Your Enthusiasm both just renewed this month. And they just put out a video showing stuff like Barry season 4 and other renewed shows are coming next year.
 
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I think it's safe to say that this can't be chalked up to previous bad management. AT&T were braindead on their handling of Warner Bros., but I have a hard time believing that their management (and potentially including ones before) explains how everything has gone tits up under Discovery and Zaslav now.
 
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I think it's safe to say that this can't be chalked up to previous bad management. AT&T were braindead on their handling of Warner Bros., but I have a hard time believing that their management (and potentially including ones before) explains how everything has gone tits up under Discovery and Zaslav now.
They left Warner with 55 billion in debt.
 
Heard that but don't fully believe it, as they are still funding new movies/tv shows as of now and could easily be able to get a loan to put the movies out if needed. Only way I could see this happening if they really don't want to take out any loans, which is beyond crazy as they need to get movies out in the first place to make money. Also to make note House Party is dated for December meaning they now have 3 movies.

Been trying to look to find WBD cash on hand, but latest numbers I could find was $2.58B for Q2 of 2022, did find a newer $4 billion number but that site was iffy to me

If I had to guess it was done for the following reasons

1. 2022 is already fucked, and due to the merger they are going to have less movies overall in 2023, so why not move more movies into 2023 to help revenues for that year and give more of a chance to beating their projections.

2. Shazam 2 was going to get killed by Avatar 2, new date also gives Shazam imax screens it would have missed out on.

3. Aqauamn is getting reshoots so may have needed so sort of delay, christmas was likely picked due to how well it the first did then

4, Evil Dead Rises is now moving to cinema release, they may have wanted to avoid going against the new Halloween thus the 2023 date.


However things that don't make sense to me.

1. They already have Wonka and the Color Purple musical dated closed to Aquaman new date. Also have the new Star Trek and Ghostbusters dated days before and while they are smaller movies than Aquaman they will still all eat into it's box office.

2. The Flash didn't change dates, thought they would push that in the hopes people forget about Ezra or push it forward to avoid anything worse that coming out. Also Flash opens a week before Indiana Jones 5 which for sure cut any legs off from the Flash it may have

3. April is a pretty dead month cinema wise, would make more sense to put one of the bigger movies there and put Evil Dead Rises in a spot like May to act as counter programming against the blockbusters or place it in January or February where it has no competition, Scream 5 was able to do $140 million with a January date last year.


4, Has stated they plan to put around 25 out in cinemas a year but so far have only greenlit one as far as I can tell.


It's worth noting with the new changes, only Shazzam was pushed to 2023, the House Party and Evil Dead Rises were due for 2022 but that was when they were HBO Max movies and House Party is still making 2022. Other movies pushed to 2023 seem to have done before the merger if I'm remembering correctly.


They left Warner with 55 billion in debt.
Disney have $46.022B in debt but that was after them buying Fox, got to wonder what happened to give WB that level of debt premerger. Mean debt isn't uncommon for big business but that level is just crazy,
 
At this point I am either convinced Zaslav is the most retarded hollywood executive out there or a disney plant because I can not fathom how someone managed to damage an entire movie studio this quickly that makes Sony look good in comparison.
 
What this mess with HBO has shown is the real dread lies with creators realizing they depend on these higher-up execs at these networks and streaming services and no matter how hard they work or how much people like their creations, their shows are going to be seen as a very disposable nothing product by the same suits who allowed them to happen to begin with,
People were warning online creators about this over twenty years ago when internet and media corporations were wanting "content" for their sites. But the old media creators just refuse to open their eyes to see what kept happening to their predecessors and think it wouldn't happen to them.
 
Daily Beast reports Laid-Off HBO Max Execs Reveal Warner Bros. Discovery Is Killing Off Diversity and Courting 'Middle America' (Archive)

The article reports that Warner Bros. Discovery has been laying off their diversity hires important POC execs.

“I don’t think anyone knows just how white the staff is,” one former executive told The Daily Beast.

The layoffs have “amplified the lack of diversity at HBO,” another former executive told The Daily Beast. “HBO is the most homogenous part of this umbrella. Instead of trying to figure out how to integrate some of the [Max] executives into HBO, they just made this sweeping cut of three divisions: kids, family, and international. A lot of Black and brown people lost their jobs.”

They are essentially making the claim that they are appealing more to the white, Middle American audience that watches Discovery as opposed to the more diverse, younger audience of HBO.

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Daily Beast reports Laid-Off HBO Max Execs Reveal Warner Bros. Discovery Is Killing Off Diversity and Courting 'Middle America' (Archive)

The article reports that Warner Bros. Discovery has been laying of their diversity hires important POC execs.



They are essentially making the claim that they are appealing more to the white, Middle American audience that watches Discovery as opposed to the more diverse, younger audience of HBO.

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Seriously Zaslav is playing with my emotions. But won't lie if true that's pretty base as fuck
 
But yeah if true this would mean this year is not a good one for wokies. Since Batgirl and first kill have been canceled and now this.
 
Daily Beast reports Laid-Off HBO Max Execs Reveal Warner Bros. Discovery Is Killing Off Diversity and Courting 'Middle America' (Archive)

The article reports that Warner Bros. Discovery has been laying off their diversity hires important POC execs.



They are essentially making the claim that they are appealing more to the white, Middle American audience that watches Discovery as opposed to the more diverse, younger audience of HBO.

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Don’t make me hope like that.
 
Just because Zaslav will be seen as "Not woke" won't mean the crap he piles out will be good, especially if it winds up being shitty reality TV and other garbage like that.

It's not even based to just kill your company to own the libs
I'll take the shitty reality shows I don't care about over destroying good IPs via propaganda garbage.
 
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