Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Sarcastic sockpuppet]

I am happy this exists here b/c I used to read the peak trans reddit all of the time. It was devastating that Reddit took that down. There were stories from all kinds of people. What is interesting about the trans phenomena is that it was able to take advantage of how MOST people feel about others in life: you do you as long as you aren't harming yourself or others. Many thought that trans people were doing just that and it didn't bother them. I don't think people realized that this is a long game for them (since at least the 1970s) and what the political types want is to enshrine "gender identity" into law! It says it in one of their founding documents called the International Bill of Gender Rights. I learned about this from Shiela Jeffries b/c I peaked and then needed to find an explanation as to what the heck was going on.

Check Aimee Challenor's thread

 

[Arctic]

After about two or three threads on this website I was pretty convinced. The troons that I've met IRL were all pretty harmless but they all have mental disorders of some kind as well which makes very it difficult to believe that they're "real (TM) women".
EDIT: Also Jim did a stream on John Money around 2016 that really confirmed for me how fucked up this was.

 

[Alcoholism]

When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.​

When they started fucking with kids.

 

[2legit2quit]

Check Aimee Challenor's thread

lol oh, i have!!

 

[YourFriendlyLurker]

Troonism and gender ideology did't pass one simple test:

If some ideology, idea, or concept forbids you from laughing at it, this ideology, idea, or concept is scum that deserves to be ridiculed. That shit works 100% of time.

 

[独人13]

I'm Chinese, I don't need to realize those activism and ideologies are harmful, we knew that already.

 

[GloriousScarf]

I used to be sympathetic to them, live and let live and all that. We can't mean to the poor ickle trannies, they have hard lives and we must be understanding of them. Then Rachel Dolezal happened and she got dragged big time. Try as I might I could not reconcile within myself what the difference was between what she did and what trannies do.

But still, I didn't dwell too much on it until the day I read the responses to J.K Rowling's essay. I read hundreds of tweets from trans women sending rape threats/ death threats for an essay I felt was totally reasonable. I wondered why all these so called women were sending another woman rape threats. I had never seen a woman do that before. *Lightbulb moment* Oh right, they are men and they always have been and always will be. Then I found out about AGPs after my peak and peaked again.

 

[Seething Troon Collector]

I used to be very 'neutral' towards trans people and for years held a 'live and let live' attitude towards them. Then the pronoun thing became whatever it is these days and I kept getting corrected/interrupted by the pronoun police so fine, I'll avoid using pronouns to not pick a fight. I'm still pretty tolerant at this point.

Fast forward a few years and a couple of people trooned out and turned into shitty people who thought their entire life revolved around cross-dressing and injecting their bathtub troonshine. The problem was that I discovered at this point that trannydom is like a virus, infecting everyone around patient zero, the genesis tranny of a friend group and you can guess what happened, my avoidance of pronouns became an issue. It's pretty easy to cut those people out of your life, which I pretty much did.

It was at this point I was pretty much 100% anti-troon and they can go cry in their dilation stations about it, I'm not changing my opinion.

then I saw the mpreg/seahorse thread here...I didn't think these freaks could stoop any lower than to try and convince the world that 2+2=5 and men can get pregnant. Men can't get pregnant and you're not a man, you're a disgusting freak.

 

[Kate Farms Shill]

Cotton ceiling, without a doubt. I thought they were all just infinifags who had neutered themselves and had no interest in women whatsoever. When I heard of 'transbians' I figured they meant two male trannies in a relationship, which didn't ruin the "they are all super fucking gay and only want men" idea. Then I saw a facebook post by one of my friends basically saying "cis" lesbians are obligated to include trannies in their dating pool. And in my sweet, innocent mind I decided that responding to this would lead to a civil discussion where the misguided friend would understand what I was saying. "Lesbians aren't attracted to males," says I, "so it's totally okay to say that you're not attracted to any of these Tru 'n' Honest Women because they're still male. Besides we're allowed to turn down anyone aren't we? If I'm not attracted to a woman, I'm not attracted to her and not obligated to give it a shot anyway, right friends?"

You would have thought I was saying it was okay to throw babies into woodchippers. As my alleged friends tried to reeducate me on this they kept exposing one more facet of this movement that I didn't know or hadn't really put much thought into. Like wait, what? Of course there's such a thing as male and female. If there wasn't you wouldn't have to transition. What do you mean they don't all cut their dicks off or even want to? I thought the point was they couldn't stand their bodies and needed to get surgery and medication or else they'd kill themselves. How are they not socialized as male? They grew up being treated like males, that's how socialization works!

I took to google looking for sanity and instead found every LGBT org repeating the same shit. Then a subreddit for something I'd never heard of, "gender critical." First link I clicked was a Magdalen Berns video about the cotton ceiling. Watched almost all her video library and spent the night scrolling through the subreddit. Never looked back.

 

[rattus norvegicus]

Started peaking when the genderspecial shit really started ramping up on Tumblr in like 2010. Peaked even more in the last five years or so after finding KF and having more exposure to the modern trans movement. PL maybe but I just know if I was born 10 years later I would've had some guidance counselor or teacher telling me that being a tomboy means I actually want to be a man and trying to get me to transition behind my parent's backs. It makes me shudder.

 

[AkuMaRin]

Peaked after a tranny bitch somehow made his way into my friend group ( that I am no longer a part of), and got to see first hand how narcissistic, pornsick, and despicable they all are. Started posting here as a way to make fun of the other tranny lesbian wannabes online, and realized that I wasn’t alone in how I felt. I’m glad other people see through the bullshit.

I used to not give a shit, let people live their lives. Whatever.

But I can’t stand them now at all. I despise seeing them everywhere, it seems like every other day some moron troons out, and I hope they all come to regret it.

 

[2legit2quit]

I used to be sympathetic to them, live and let live and all that. We can't mean to the poor ickle trannies, they have hard lives and we must be understanding of them. Then Rachel Dolezal happened and she got dragged big time. Try as I might I could not reconcile within myself what the difference was between what she did and what trannies do.

But still, I didn't dwell too much on it until the day I read the responses to J.K Rowling's essay. I read hundreds of tweets from trans women sending rape threats/ death threats for an essay I felt was totally reasonable. I wondered why all these so called women were sending another woman rape threats. I had never seen a woman do that before. *Lightbulb moment* Oh right, they are men and they always have been and always will be. Then I found out about AGPs after my peak and peaked again.

Cotton ceiling, without a doubt. I thought they were all just infinifags who had neutered themselves and had no interest in women whatsoever. When I heard of 'transbians' I figured they meant two male trannies in a relationship, which didn't ruin the "they are all super fucking gay and only want men" idea. Then I saw a facebook post by one of my friends basically saying "cis" lesbians are obligated to include trannies in their dating pool. And in my sweet, innocent mind I decided that responding to this would lead to a civil discussion where the misguided friend would understand what I was saying. "Lesbians aren't attracted to males," says I, "so it's totally okay to say that you're not attracted to any of these Tru 'n' Honest Women because they're still male. Besides we're allowed to turn down anyone aren't we? If I'm not attracted to a woman, I'm not attracted to her and not obligated to give it a shot anyway, right friends?"

You would have thought I was saying it was okay to throw babies into woodchippers. As my alleged friends tried to reeducate me on this they kept exposing one more facet of this movement that I didn't know or hadn't really put much thought into. Like wait, what? Of course there's such a thing as male and female. If there wasn't you wouldn't have to transition. What do you mean they don't all cut their dicks off or even want to? I thought the point was they couldn't stand their bodies and needed to get surgery and medication or else they'd kill themselves. How are they not socialized as male? They grew up being treated like males, that's how socialization works!

I took to google looking for sanity and instead found every LGBT org repeating the same shit. Then a subreddit for something I'd never heard of, "gender critical." First link I clicked was a Magdalen Berns video about the cotton ceiling. Watched almost all her video library and spent the night scrolling through the subreddit. Never looked back.

RIP Magdelan Berns

 

[DeathfatFag]

I started heading in that direction after going to a trans workshop near my house. I've had mixed, but sympathetic, feelings towards trannies. I mean, life is rough if your a dude who is convinced you're a woman, right? I had known a few FTMs through life happenings before this, but it all really just hit me throughout the workshop - all these males really are men. Paints and crayons aside, it was just dudes skinwalking. It wasn't like the current crop of social media weirdos in all manner of unsightly hoochie/fetish gear or some other perv flag... it was just a realization from watching these guys. I didn't really get mad about it, though, until the crazy social media shit started getting put in front of my eyes, especially that harvested the slobbermutts of KiwiFarms. The info curated by the users here really did it (well before I ever bothered to register).

 

[Turtlebees]

I was very live and let live about the entire situation until the trannies, and their sycophants the enbys and assorted other forms of genderspecial, took over LGB spaces. I'm not a potential FtM in denial. I don't want to suck girldick. I wasn't a TERF either, but I'm being pushed in that direction by the incessant gender bullshit.

When the trannies started invading women's sport and the drag storytime nonsense started, that was it. I was done with playing nice. By the time my employer began handing out pronoun pins I was just so damn over this. There is no justifiable reason for society to be pandering to these people; most need mental health assistance while a not insignificant number of others are just perverts and opportunists.

So yeah, trannies have managed to peak me, one of the most liberal libs to ever lib her way around in life.

 

[Getwhatyou]

My opinions have changed. I dont really hate trannies overall. Grooming kids gets you shot however. However being a tranny doesn't affect me personally so chopping off your dick over 18 I couldn't care less

 

[whiteboydiddy]

Well, i'm pretty fucking gay and have had to carry that baggage with me my whole life (esp coming of age in the late 2000s and early 2010s, just before globohomo shit started getting shoved down everyone's throat). For years I assumed the raging SJW pinkhairs were just a very vocal minority that made everyone else even slightly questioning their sexuality look bad, I stayed in the closet for years cause of it. Even when I was younger I just always viewed trannies as a weird fetish thing, growing up on punk rock and stuff reading about people like Wayne/Jayne County. I wouldn't say i've been radicalized per se, but I really feel for the women who have had their livelihoods ruined by ugly balding coomer men in drag calling them bigots and/or "transphobic" or whatever. Again, I always viewed them as a vocal minority, but it didn't really sink in how much the media and establishment powers that be were trying to legitimize their horndog asses till I saw people like Dave Chappelle (one of the finest comics of our time and a real champion of the underdogs of this world, imo), JK Rowling (who I always viewed as a borderline SJW liberal third wave feminist type), and even fucking king dudebro Joe Rogan get relentlessly dragged through the mud over something as simple and indisputable as stating women are biologically different from men. IMO it is one thing to be trans and live your life. It's even another to justify your fetish as just you being a True & Honest Wahman on the inside. But for the entire mainstream media, political establishment, and the NPC types who eat up their rhetoric to hypernormalize it as something amazing and progressive for society as a whole, to allow them to shove gender ideology down everyone's throats including young, impressionable children, and socially ostracize, economically sanction, and prevent gainful employment against anyone who dares making even the most milquetoast comment suggesting otherwise? Now that is what really scares me about all this genderkult stuff. I saw someone on here post something the other day about how this site is slowly becoming the only place on the whole internet where people can freely discuss how the troon lifestyle isn't all sunshine and rainbows and i'm inclined to agree. That all being said, this site is a beacon of sanity in an increasinglt clown world, I truly feel most people would tend to agree with the majority of us on how this shit has gotten way out of hand but are afraid to in fear of retribution. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk. <3

 

[l00n3ytr00nz]

I've had three peaks:

1. About 10 years ago, I had a brief interaction on Facebook where a gay black marxist acquaintance "called me out" on Facebook for being critical of the BLM movement's championing of violent criminals. I responded to this person, who was effeminate but observably and presentably male for the entire 4 years I'd known him, something to the effect of "Dude, you realize these people victimize other minorities", which caused a "muh nonbinary" chimpout. It was then that I realized these people were something categorically different than LGB, afflicted by something more akin to a Cluster B personality disorder if not outright narcissism.
2. Hearing rhetoric shift just within the last 3-4 years and that misgendering is now considered "violence" (ok, troon). This made me realize that postmodernism underlies a lot of trans rhetoric, that they are trying to change the definitions of words by fiat, beyond just the scope of just sex vs gender.
3. Discovering the festering rabbit hole that is the Cotton Ceiling. Now it's not enough to not discriminate against troons in the public sphere - housing, loans, employment. No, now YOUR FUCKING BODY is also considered a public accommodation. These people are sick, like some sort of sexual communists, and yet what would rightly be condemned as rape culture if espoused by any other group is excused because the sacred troon can do no wrong and deserves his every desire fulfilled and validated without criticism.

 

[Gabber Evangelion]

I used to be a TIF before, because living as a dyke in a shithole 3rd world country made the things very harsh for me. As soon as i was homeschooled and became a shut-in teen I discovered Twitter and Tumblr. I was venting there about how i was deeply jealous of men, then some "friends" told me that i had gender dysphoria and needed to make more research on this, which i did, and then i believed them, that's how i was sold into "transitionning will make you 100% the opposite gender don't worry about it!". I entered into multiple discord servers for trans ppl, made friends with them & shit, some of the TIMs were also flirting with me because I was the "uwu i hate women & feminism" pooner (I think they clearly saw me as a woman since they were all troonsbian lmfao). I planned to go thru mastectomies and starting HRT (thank god i didnt), i also bought binders at that time and those shit made me breathe with more difficulty.
I was deeeeply consumed by social medias and validation, I was a mentally ill lifeless troon who thought that becoming a man would erase all my problems

Spoiler

it didnt

After going to highschool (no more homeschooled) i didnt cared about my dysphoria anymore, i barely thought about it since i made real life friends and had to focus on other things instead of social medias. During that moment I saw a lot of my twitter friends becoming trannies too, i think half of them became trannies/annoying enbies, but that didn't really mattered to me because i was still a TRA at that time (no more troon tho). But what really clicked me off was when the majority of my twitter friends were outed as rapists/groomer/abuser and then quickly changed their gender 1 month after the call-outs on them, and their victims were more furious against people who misgendered their abusers than being furious against their abusers. I made some tweets about how that shit became ridiculous, and ofc i was called a transphobe bc i didnt wanted to respect pronouns to rapists, most of my friends quickly turned their back on me and i was told that i was a horrible person for not respecting their feelings, got tired to that shit and made me peak quickly, i also joined the terf club and made great friends after that!

TL;DR : me dyke then was troon at teen because me addicted to twitter&discord and trannies were very validating to me then me detransitionned after seeing the real world then me made enemies because me dont respect to rapists pronouns

 

[Mr. Cool ICE]

I used to be a TIF before, because living as a dyke in a shithole 3rd world country made the things very harsh for me. As soon as i was homeschooled and became a shut-in teen I discovered Twitter and Tumblr. I was venting there about how i was deeply jealous of men, then some "friends" told me that i had gender dysphoria and needed to make more research on this, which i did, and then i believed them, that's how i was sold into "transitionning will make you 100% the opposite gender don't worry about it!". I entered into multiple discord servers for trans ppl, made friends with them & shit, some of the TIMs were also flirting with me because I was the "uwu i hate women & feminism" pooner (I think they clearly saw me as a woman since they were all troonsbian lmfao). I planned to go thru mastectomies and starting HRT (thank god i didnt), i also bought binders at that time and those shit made me breathe with more difficulty.
I was deeeeply consumed by social medias and validation, I was a mentally ill lifeless troon who thought that becoming a man would erase all my problems

Spoiler

it didnt

After going to highschool (no more homeschooled) i didnt cared about my dysphoria anymore, i barely thought about it since i made real life friends and had to focus on other things instead of social medias. During that moment I saw a lot of my twitter friends becoming trannies too, i think half of them became trannies/annoying enbies, but that didn't really mattered to me because i was still a TRA at that time (no more troon tho). But what really clicked me off was when the majority of my twitter friends were outed as rapists/groomer/abuser and then quickly changed their gender 1 month after the call-outs on them, and their victims were more furious against people who misgendered their abusers than being furious against their abusers. I made some tweets about how that shit became ridiculous, and ofc i was called a transphobe bc i didnt wanted to respect pronouns to rapists, most of my friends quickly turned their back on me and i was told that i was a horrible person for not respecting their feelings, got tired to that shit and made me peak quickly, i also joined the terf club and made great friends after that!

TL;DR : me dyke then was troon at teen because me addicted to twitter&discord and trannies were very validating to me then me detransitionned after seeing the real world then me made enemies because me dont respect to rapists pronouns

To be fair, it's common sense that rapists either get referred to by their sex, or as an "it" by default.
I also don't trust people who complain about misgendering rapists. If anyone gives a shit about that, they're clearly not worth listening to. At best they're retarded, at worst they're one themself.

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

Realizing that most of the trans community does not want transgenderism to be seen as and treated as a neurological condition.

Your brain doesn't line up with your body. It gives you gender-based body dysphoria, and it's so unbearable that it causes depression and limits your functioning in many/all aspects of life. After therapy, you realize that this isn't rooted in some other mental condition, so you socially transition and eventually go through with hormones and gender-affirming surgery. And magically, the depression goes away when the crippling dysphoria goes away. Before it was decided that medical studies on transgenderism are "transphobic," there was solid data pointing towards trans people (the normal ones with actual medical gender identity problems) actually being more neurologically similar to the sex they identify as. Male and female brains do appear differently in scans.

Getting people to accept that this is a medical condition, it is treatable, and we are just normal people who want to live normal productive lives as regular men/women in regular society would have been the best thing anyone could do for the trans community. It could've been normalized and accepted.
But then creepy middle aged men with a fetish ruined it, like they tend to do. You no longer need dysphoria to be trans, you can just say you are. And now kids should be able to make irreversible medical decisions without being able to fully comprehend it, and saying "this is bad" is a literal fucking hate crime. Being a transmedicalist or criticizing anything the trans community does is a huge offense.

Also, people can say "I am trans, my pronouns are it/its" completely seriously. And if you say that's fucked up, you're the bad guy. Remember the days when LGBTQ people wanted to be treated as humans?