General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Hmmpf!]

Ayame like to dislike ratio. Four to One.

 

[Rratcatcher]

Ayame like to dislike ratio. Four to One.

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Wow. No way that was all /vt/'s influence. 5ch must hate her, too lol.

Like @TheEnemy said below me, she was one of the more popular holomems from times when she regularly streamed. I don't get why people get so buttmad over her. Just don't watch her. Nothing she does is even close to harming others, so why bother worrying about her.

 

[TheEnemy]

I think of Ayame the same way I do with Matsuri and Aqua, someone who used to carry the whole company on their shoulders and is now relieved of that duty. Back when China money was Holo's lifeline and main business those four were the pillars of the company. If I am not mistaken quite a lot of her old Chinese fans still hang around and she is fairly popular in the Taiwanese scene. This was before Vspo and APEX brainrot hasn't taken over Niji completely yet so there was not much competition for an FPS playing female vtuber, and the Docchidocchi song is also like the first viral thing that ever came out of Hololive. She has a lot of legacy going for her.

While on this topic fuck I miss Bilibili...I know most people here only know that site for the moment everything went to shit and the horde descended upon the Yankee Jesus but I actually got into Vtubers watching all the short clips the translator teams would put out. Before all the clip channels I used to watch the Chinese vods with google translate on because the autism level is so high they translate the entire thing using the danmaku chats. Chinese fans also surprising closer to Indonesians in term of attitudes to parasocial stuff. Guess all good things don't last.

 

[Cubanodun]

sorry to ask this but this "our" or "we" is weird to me,because its just personal preferrence/taste,like i said i'm not a big ayame fan,but when i watch her stream like fall guys etc its fun and i can see why people like her and she have a lot of fans,she still not my oshi or anything but if you and me think she is "meh" doesn't mean that it applied to many others out there,its not even justified the hate because its not like she never did anything at all,heck she even did those 3D or whatever else outside streaming.

Is this the new Nolan? i dont like him, bring my boy back

Also all those words just to admit that you are a Nakiri gumi, lmao ok dude if you like her thats your problem but most of us here dont care to much about her, her group of simps are most appealing for how much shit they get and are the ones we like to document

 

[Lyra94]

actually, i dont know. what was it that made her so popular in the first place. from what i have seen, she has a cute model and a cute voice but what is it that make so many crazy about her?

Her consistency issues for the last year + 1/2 not withstanding, she's a sweetheart who could give Ina a run for her pun queen title with an underrated singing voice which a lot of western fans finally seem to have noticed at the last big live show. Gets endearingly too into rants about whatever anime she's currently watching (especially Precure) + her zatsus and superchat tangents are usually very interesting or funny. Also actually pretty decent at most games, not quite Aqua/Towa levels of FPS but she was consistently pretty high ranked in Apex until she dropped it for Valorant.
Hasn't mentioned it recently but she was also studying some computer thing which is neat (she finds debugging fun so is clearly insane).

I get "newer" fans (mostly the late 2020 joiners with EN) forgetting or not knowing, but we had almost 3 solid years of 3-4 streams a week before her schedule went to shit last year.
At the end of the day tho, watch what you like my dudes no point getting MATI because someone on a mongolian basket weaving site said your favorite anime girl is bad.

RE Coomerbait; I'd rank her pretty near the bottom of the GFE or bait types in Holo, it's one of the reasons I stuck with her over Choco way back when. Personality and content wise at least, I can't speak for people who want to fuck a cartoon but they all deserve the rope regardless of oshi.
Haven't caught up with the stream yet but I'll try to throw up a TLDR of any bits when I get a chance tomorrow, it's late here and I have had several strong zeros.

 

[2DUM4U]

Allow me to introduce my wife, Momo Susan.

 

[longrattz]

Is this the new Nolan? i dont like him, bring my boy back

Also all those words just to admit that you are a Nakiri gumi, lmao ok dude if you like her thats your problem but most of us here dont care to much about her, her group of simps are most appealing for how much shit they get and are the ones we like to document

no,i'm not nakirigumi so please don't ask me some more "details" stuff about ayame,because idk,like i said i don't even know if the rrats is true,but unlike calli/kiara/ollie who did some dumb thing and keep fall for the same shit that i understand why people hate them,but ayame,i don't get it,specially if someone bring argument she didn't stream as much as this X vtuber so she doesn't deserved her popularity is just dumb.

 

[AGuntyPaajet]

 

[You're an idiot]

I don't think it's a matter of "Ayame bad" as much as "Ayame who??"
Why does this person who never streams have so many fans? (we know why). Why does this person who does the absolute minimum still get superchats? (we know exactly why)

Deserving things for your work put in has never correlated. You can watch any indie or small corpo chuuba put in the effort, draw up that .png to entertain viewers on stream, set up that camera to cook something or build a toy. Amount of donos, CCV? in the tens, sometimes a hundred. It's a good thing most of them are grateful to whatever fans they get. Ayame is this lingering textbook example of how coomers are the primary driving force in both donations, CCV, concert ticket and merch sales.

Back in 2020 hololive JP had a meet'n'greet with their talents. Ayame's queue as you would expect, was miles long. Right next to hers was Miko, where only 1 person showed up. This was the lowest point for her, when she was just about ready to leave streaming altogether and get a real job. Then shuba and Mio talked to her some more and then she played GTA V and you know the rest.

How did she get all those fans?

 

[DarkOak8]

Given that Gura is dead last in Holopro for the Big Brain Academy game... it's a jolly good thing she's the MC.

I doubt any JPs are on, given the time and language. IDs are somewhat more likely but it's also early for them, and depending on what the games are even they may be at a language/culture disadvantage. I would guess ENs and Tempus.

Well Axel dooooess have a "TBA" in his schedule for the same day lol

But in all seriousness I picture the 8 will be Ina (confirmed), Bae (Confirmed), Kronii (Essentially confirmed), Reine (liked the tweet), Ame (has a coy possible schedule in her half schedule), Calli (also liked the tweet), Zeta & Kaela (Both liked the tweet as well). Originally I assumed SNOT would be there but see Mumei has a drawing stream scheduled, and I don't think Fauna has actually ever played Big Brain Academy

 

[Nolan Crush]

How did she get all those fans?

I imagine she used to stream more and not have this 2 month cycle.

Why does she have that cycle anyway. Is it just the health issues with her and relatives? Or is there another explanation

 

[Burnt Fish]

I don't think it's a matter of "Ayame bad" as much as "Ayame who??"
Why does this person who never streams have so many fans? (we know why). Why does this person who does the absolute minimum still get superchats? (we know exactly why)

Deserving things for your work put in has never correlated. You can watch any indie or small corpo chuuba put in the effort, draw up that .png to entertain viewers on stream, set up that camera to cook something or build a toy. Amount of donos, CCV? in the tens, sometimes a hundred. It's a good thing most of them are grateful to whatever fans they get. Ayame is this lingering textbook example of how coomers are the primary driving force in both donations, CCV, concert ticket and merch sales.

Back in 2020 hololive JP had a meet'n'greet with their talents. Ayame's queue as you would expect, was miles long. Right next to hers was Miko, where only 1 person showed up. This was the lowest point for her, when she was just about ready to leave streaming altogether and get a real job. Then shuba and Mio talked to her some more and then she played GTA V and you know the rest.

idk I just think if you're at the point where you're weighing out who "deserves" to get paid obscene amounts of money for playing video games and singing silly songs you've long since lost the plot.

None of them Deserve to make in a month what many will only make in an entire year, but the thing is who the hell cares. You and I aren't paying them, and nothing dictates that if they didn't exist that the money would magically find it's way to a "more deserving" recipient. This probably all falls in line with what Null was on about before the DDOS shit started up again telling people to lighten up and stop getting upset about people like Wings or DSP making money.

 

[Not an NSA Plant 69]

I watched part of the collab stream where Rie and Remi were speaking Chinese. Both Rie and Remi were speaking Mandarin. Rie's Mandarin pronunciations were better than Remi's, though Remi's Mandarin was still pretty easy to understand.

Thanks for the information I find your insight interesting. I think Rie mentioned having dual citizenship AU/CN during a lawn mowing stream or in a space (but I can't find it here or /there/ to link it), which may explain things somewhat.

Side note: My dad was ESL but my ability to speak his native tongue is marginal, as native speakers put it, I talk slow and have an English accent, ie I actually have to translate in my head and my pronunciation is off, but I am understandable.

 

[Cubanodun]

no,i'm not nakirigumi so please don't ask me some more "details" stuff about ayame,because idk,like i said i don't even know if the rrats is true,but unlike calli/kiara/ollie who did some dumb thing and keep fall for the same shit that i understand why people hate them,but ayame,i don't get it,specially if someone bring argument she didn't stream as much as this X vtuber so she doesn't deserved her popularity is just dumb.

If you are not a Nakirigumi then why are you defending her so bad when we keep telling you that she is not the problem, she doesnt do ANYTHING so we dont have anything to say, the Red Oni Bad is just a joke

How did she get all those fans?

Before the covfefe boost she was one of the persons that carried the company we are talking when they were sub 100k subscribers, but after that she mostly fade out to the background,the interpretation of her words was that the new gens were better than her (reminder she is Gen 2 so she is pre GAMERS-Holoforce-Hololive fantasy) and she did not feel like streaming and putting subpar content

 

[You're an idiot]

Before the covfefe boost she was one of the persons that carried the company we are talking when they were sub 100k subscribers, but after that she mostly fade out to the background,the interpretation of her words was that the new gens were better than her (reminder she is Gen 2 so she is pre GAMERS-Holoforce-Hololive fantasy) and she did not feel like streaming and putting subpar content

So, are you telling me that she did indeed pull her weight and put in the work back then? She doesn't have her fans for just no reason?

 

[longrattz]

If you are not a Nakirigumi then why are you defending her so bad when we keep telling you that she is not the problem, she doesnt do ANYTHING so we dont have anything to say, the Red Oni Bad is just a joke

Before the covfefe boost she was one of the persons that carried the company we are talking when they were sub 100k subscribers, but after that she mostly fade out to the background,the interpretation of her words was that the new gens were better than her (reminder she is Gen 2 so she is pre GAMERS-Holoforce-Hololive fantasy) and she did not feel like streaming and putting subpar content

oh nah,i get it as a joke its fine nothing wrong with it,but when its reaching the /vt/ lvl now that is ridiculous part of it because like i said i'm not following her either so i'm really curious about her not streaming much and if you talking about her fan look like there is the real one here couple post before.

 

[field rice mouse]

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And another company (that I am not familiar with) bites the dust today as well. Their youtube page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7JnbgdpZKohbBc9H-LaveA
Translation stolen from a twitter user.

IseV (Isekai Vtuber - these talents from other worlds got isekai'd as a Vtuber) didn't really have much presence even when I followed some of their talents, I can't recall more than one collab on their corpo channel. I am glad Wakana Kohaku continues on as she's one of the chuubas I followed during the void after Natonato's graduation and her reincarnation. So persistent during her MH Rise streams, starting off with Dual Blades but forcing herself to learn and clear the base game using Charge Blade and doing it all over again with Greatsword. Currently playing A Link to the Past between clearing Dragon Quest games starting from DQ1. I don't think there are any English subs from any of them except for one when Kson entered Hana's Ark stream and she fangirl'd hard.

I'll never forgive the troons for stopping me from talking about Rosemi's kino outfit reveal and the equally kino NijiMelodyTime.

I am going to post this banger and go to bed.

Remember what the troons took from you in terms of sharing chuuba content. Holosummer Festival, Niji Melody Time, and the early days of Vspo's debutant Ramune are a few examples.

She's a hag.

She's also Suou Patra's ASMR protégé, Houshou Marine's Mario Kart 8 coach that helped her get 3rd in last year's tournament, and also the person who hosts, organises, dances and sings on NJU (the big free two-day concert at the end of the year).

A very OP V-Tuber.

Edit: She's an artist too and does stuff with Marine and Tamaki/Norio.

One of the SKB as well (With Mirei, Ange, and Utako-neesan). One of the rrats about her is from one of her ASMR streams where a male voice was heard in the background which sounds similar to Kuzuha. I remember the wild speculation that they knew each other when he was still in high school and she's in her mid 20's which means she's a hag who groomed one of Niji's top male. There were a time she got dislike bombed by fujos and had to stop streaming for some time.

Here you go.

Are we sure it's Marine, though? Like REALLY sure? For all I know the "motherless brat" thing may be a common insult over there.

It's in Marine's thread but as mentioned in the previous posts, that comment is simply the best one the news outlet can use to get a reaction. I did check a few threads before and after the post and there are hundreds of posts from that IP (seems like a numberfag schizo) basically saying everything Marine/Ichimi does are bad.
-"You people like Marine because she's braindead and 'cute'."
-"Waiting for hospital queue is just an excuse" during one of her hiatus times.
-Basically said her streams are terrible if she didn't get 20k CCV and compared her to other holos. When others commented and said something about the other holo the response is "Why are you talking about another holo in the Marine thread". If she gets 20k she's terrible since she didn't have 30k CCV.
-"Lamy is a debuff for collab"
-If Marine collabs it's because she's a terrible solo streamer
-If she doesn't stream games she's a terrible stream and should stop singing streams and zatsus
-If she plays non-Japanese games she's appealing to foreigners and abandoned JP viewers
-If she plays Japanese games/Touhou it's a kusoge and she only plays games she likes and doesn't care about viewers
-When she talks about her big project "nobody cares, it's going to be terrible"
At some point after 5-6 threads this anti changed IP but was discovered easily since the shitpost pattern is still the same.

So this is pretty much an accumulation of shitposting and insults. As much as I dislike this law, remember this is a country where schizos will bully a target until destitute/dead if you remember the suicide of the female wrestler in a reality show after relentless anti hate campaign. We are also here so we should care about opsec as well to make sure this doesn't happen to us.

To the poster who recommended Yoshika, thank you. She's currently doing a singing stream and sang Ahoy and Stellar Stellar back to back. Now singing GHOST.

What I am looking forward from Niji though is a Menhera Lotion Wrestling battle between Furen E Lustario and Hoshikawa Sara with NTR sideshow involving Deron and Toko

Also a good time to promote this subber channel who puts a good effort. Judging from the channel name this will focus on Furen from the Kingdom of Corvus.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

And so from the vtuber thread emerged heroes, the greatest and most autistic on the land...

@Ikari Tenri being a "hero" is a bit of a stretch, bro.

 

[White Stone]

Well Axel dooooess have a "TBA" in his schedule for the same day lol

But in all seriousness I picture the 8 will be Ina (confirmed), Bae (Confirmed), Kronii (Essentially confirmed), Reine (liked the tweet), Ame (has a coy possible schedule in her half schedule), Calli (also liked the tweet), Zeta & Kaela (Both liked the tweet as well). Originally I assumed SNOT would be there but see Mumei has a drawing stream scheduled, and I don't think Fauna has actually ever played Big Brain Academy

They are definitely not playing Big Brain Academy. This seems to be one of the projects that Gura has been working on for a while, so I expect something more unique.

 

[Burnt Fish]

@Ikari Tenri being a "hero" is a bit of a stretch, bro.

just you wait, when he gets banned again he'll prove you wrong, he'll show everyone he's an hero