Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

[NoReturn]

I don't care if they pass or not, any tranny who acts like a decent human being and doesn't try to constantly violate the rights of everyone around them is one of the good ones.

Yeah, I was gonna say something similar.
It's why I really like Hana from Tokyo Godfathers, and it makes me angry that people act like s/he is "bad representation" because the character doesn't look like a uwu catgirl.

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

Just because trannies are insane doesn't mean that there aren't good ones. I'd be respect a tranny who helps people and makes good things, I don't hate them all.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

The thing is, saying something like, "There is no such thing as a sane transgender person," is not inherently hateful. It is not. It's a statement of fact. Sure, plenty of us spout some pretty edgy shit about transgenders in general, but that does not invalidate the fact that transgenderism is inherently disordered, and it should be discouraged just as heavily as behaviors like anorexia or bulimia. It's also not hateful to point out that transgenderism itself is dehumanizing.

It's not hateful to point out the antisocial behavior of most transgender people, and it's not hateful to point out the fact that even "sane" transgender people does not redeem the concept that we should play pretend with people who are convinced, with every fibre of their being, that they are something that they are not, and will never become. That permanently damaging your body, your ability to reproduce, and your ability to have normal, healthy sexual relationships with others, is ever a good option. Hell, it shouldn't even be a last resort.

If anything, invalidating transgenderism is actually the compassionate thing to do. Make it illegal to change your legal documents to reflect your gender identity rather than your biological sex. Make it illegal for doctors to attempt to medically "transition" you through chemical or surgical means. Make it easier for your loved ones to have you committed if you refuse to stop playing pretend as the opposite sex, and ESPECIALLY if you lash out at others who refuse to play along.

Aside from the fact that it's easy to hate these people for the horrible, awful things they do to those closest to them, and to society at large, taking such a stance doesn't make you a bad person. If anything, it makes you a kind, compassionate person who cares for the well being of others.

The fact that some transgenders can feign sanity does not change the fact that transgenderism is an inherently self-destructive delusion that also comes with anti-social and narcissistic behaviors as biproducts.



All intersex people are male or female.

Get back to me when a person is born who can produce both eggs or sperm, or even a sperg cell.

One I forgot about was Pad. According to the MATI on her, she had a chromosomal disease where she had both male and female chromosomes and it caused some mental instability. She ended up transitioning and according to Null lives a perfectly normal life as a woman now. These conditions are rare, and even rarer than dysphoria caused by the brain being wired wrong, but they do provably exist. Also she had an account here and apparently fucked with Chris.

I also watched an interview with Chaz Bono as a kid, and he's old school FtM before it was trendy. In that interview he talked candidly right on late night national TV about how medical science just hadn't progressed far enough to justify bottom surgery. The online trans community acting like asking questions is horribly transphobic is part of the problem. No one person has an obligation to start talking about their personal medical stuff, but people having an open mind just to get shouted down as *phobic just creates more hate.

 

[GenericReviewerDraco]

I remember Maddie Blaustein, the English Voice of Meowth and Yugi's Grandpa being pretty professional despite working for a lolcow like 4kids, but trannies circa the early/mid 2000s weren't super memorable or common.

 

[haglover]

I remember Maddie Blaustein, the English Voice of Meowth and Yugi's Grandpa being pretty professional despite working for a lolcow like 4kids, but trannies circa the early/mid 2000s weren't super memorable or common.

My first thought with this thread was Maddie! (I discarded it for posting about FtMs)
Rest in peace

 

[Android raptor]

I don't care if they pass or not, any tranny who acts like a decent human being and doesn't try to constantly violate the rights of everyone around them is one of the good ones.

Especially since passing, particularly for trans women, often requires a shitton of medical treatment not everyone can afford.

It's kinda like how when Brianna Wu first transitioned she was shitting all over other trans women for not passing as well as she thought she did, even though many of them came from rough situations and didn't have the financial privilege she did.

I remember Maddie Blaustein, the English Voice of Meowth and Yugi's Grandpa being pretty professional despite working for a lolcow like 4kids, but trannies circa the early/mid 2000s weren't super memorable or common.

Maddie was awesome and her death devastated the pokemon fandom. Definitely someone that deserves to be highlighted ITT

 

[Claus]

Ngl I watched sphere hunters Resident Evil evil videos for years and had no idea she was trans. She's probably the only tranny I'll use female pronouns to refer to and even then it's more because I had no idea and I'm so used to calling her a her. The only reason I even found out she was not only trans but also an ex porncow was someone randomly brought it up in the resident evil thread.

Same lol. I will say she has a very nice speaking voice, which is something that is unheard of for trannies and overall she seems like a chill person. She rarely ever brings up trans or social issues in her videos, when she does it is usually at least somewhat relevant to what she is covering and the takes are incredibly tame. While I definitely don't agree with her lifestyle it's good to see that she has actually improved herself over the years and is doing something she is passionate about, unlike most troons that are discussed on this site

On this issue as a whole I am overall quite skeptical of transgenderism, although I at least I understand the views of transmedicalists/truscum, as they are generally pretty logically constant, unlike the nonsense spewed by TRAs and gender ideologues. I don't think that they are malicious like the TRAs, more misguided. I used to be a transmedicalist for quite a while, however issues concerning data replication in the field of medicine and the general lack of academic freedom in this area, as well as just generally becoming more socially conservative over the years have lead me to become more skeptical about the whole thing . I just don't see how giving kids puberty blockers can be good at all

 

[ASeabear8952]

99% of those that transitioned before or during the very early stages of the Internet. Rose of Dawn, Buck Angel, and Blaire White (I don’t give a fuck about what anyone says).

One of the worst parts is that the high profile cultists are just making things much harder for those who just want to quietly get on with their lives and contribute to society as best they can.

Although the absolute worst part is that said cultists are not only making things harder, but are using their newly gained protected status as a free pass to do and say all sorts of heinous shit. Transgenderism has been hijacked by loudmouthed grifters and/or sex pests with its biggest victims being true and honest trans people. Many of whom are aware they're unwell, and just want to deal with it as quietly and discreetly as possible.

I cannot agree more. The transtrenders are invading the community and taking the limelight away from the true and honest trans people that legit thought they were born in the wrong body. Not to mention the grand majority of them seem to be entitled douchebags.

I remember Maddie Blaustein, the English Voice of Meowth and Yugi's Grandpa being pretty professional despite working for a lolcow like 4kids, but trannies circa the early/mid 2000s weren't super memorable or common.

YES. She died way too soon. Apparently not long after her death Pokemon made a brief nod to her in an episode where if you listen real closely Team Rocket says, “Looks like Team Rocket is BLAUSTEIN off again!”

 

[Tard Whisperer]

destiny orbiter taftaj is the only tranny I'm aware of who both passes and doesn't spread most of the TRA BS. they seem to be disillusioned by trans ideology and transition but doesn't see the point in detransing.





Honestly I have a lot of respect for them openly disavowing trans ideology despite it alienating themselves from most other trans people, and being open about the realities of transition, because there's nothing that pisses off troons more than that.

also they were sane enough to not cut their dick off so good for them.

irl I have met trannies that I find tolerable, or pass well enough that I can't tell for a while, but none that don't buy into every retarded trans belief.

 

[acme]

I like Jay Exi, one of the few video makers, trans or otherwise that can make long form videos with out them being repetitive and boring.

 

[The Emperor Skeksis]

This one was posted to Ovarit. Apparently a FTM, who made it as a director.

VENICE, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Award-winning Italian director Emanuele Crialese revealed on Sunday that he had been born a woman as he presented his highly autobiographical movie "L'Immensita", starring Penelope Cruz, at the Venice Film Festival.

There are few pictures available where (s)he is standing next to other people, and you kinda see it then (small skull, small hands compared to men), but really (s)he passes very well. Good for this person for making it in their field through hard work and not attentionwhoring on twitter.

Famed male Italian director tells Venice he was born a woman

Emanuele is second from the left, grey coat white shirt.

 

[Theophilus Thistler]

There’s one old country tranny that lives out in a rural community that has been through three major floods this year and despite the fact he’s haggard older male with giant bolt ons, the bloke has been constantly going out there and helping rebuild people’s houses, repair their cars and when he’s not doing that, he’s out sitting in tree sits trying to stop old growth forests being logged down. Looks like an absolute tranny sideshow, but that’s a much better person than most in my books.

Edit: I used to watch Jay Exci, he made good videos until the bathtub estrogen kicked in, now he just does unhinged streams and looks like a hot mess. Sad.

 

[Unexpected Genitals]

I don't watch her videos much anymore, but I always thought MsBreezy/Kuledud3's classic gmod videos were pretty funny. At least according to the last time I checked out that channel, Breezy doesn't deny her trans status but also doesn't really bring it up that often, it's not really part of her style of humor for her videos.

 

[Francium]

99% of those that transitioned before or during the very early stages of the Internet. Rose of Dawn, Buck Angel, and Blaire White (I don’t give a fuck about what anyone says).

Blaire was alright way back when, but lost me entirely when she went full-on clickbait without even trying to mask the fact that 99% of the shit she puts into videos are blatant misinformation or clearly edited (the polcomp test video solidified it for me when you could clearly see "libertarian right political compass" on google in the next tab.)

Why are a majority of the sane ones FtM? You just don't see it anywhere else, even the MtFs that are normal by Kiwi standards that I've met are more out there than a sane FtM.
There's just something about them that makes them tick easier than any other person I guess.

I'd say it's because most of the more insane female-born ones usually identify with some arbitrary nonbinary label instead of just trying to appear and pass as male. My theory is that it's because the ones that'll adopt these kinds of identities as a trend do so to be hip and marginalized, but they think men are icky oppressors so they instead identify with "demibunboigender" with whatever nickname they can make up and turn into neopronouns.

that and probably the difference in hormones. with testosterone it's a pretty well known thing to have the 'roid rage, so I'm sure FtMs either learn to cope better or fail the drug screening for getting a prescription. meanwhile estrogen is easier to get and makes the people that take it get the same mood swings as a woman on her period so it's likely a combination of more MtFs being on hormones when they wouldn't be medically allowed to combined with the mood swings not being the more talked about side effects of estrogen.

 

[Kirby]

I'm part of the minority that doesn't hate every person who is trans just like I wouldn't judge any group of people over the actions of a few morons. (looking at you cloudflare) If someone told me they were transgendered and a frequent reddit poster I would be infinitely more appalled by the fact they were proud to tell me they were a redditor.

You'll actually find out that most people in any demographic are good people. In general it's always the loudest ones that make the biggest asses of themselves which causes people to blanket hate. Growing up I was around all types of people and became close enough to them that we could call each other every phobic slur under the sun and laugh at the edginess of it rather than act like war crimes were committed. When you realize that nothing separates us from being human you are able to laugh at edgy jokes.

People on reddit and twitter championing social justice want the opposite of this. They influence people to engage in tribalism because it's easier to control and exploit people when they are thinking based on a hivemind rather than thinking things through on their own. When you agree with the hivemind you are rewarded with updoots and blue checkmarks. When you disagree they won't even tell you why they think you are wrong. They don't want to have a dialogue with you, they just want you gone. This is the join or die environment kids grow up with today in the information era so it's not surprising how a lot of them behave on social media.

The people on here spamming transphobic stuff like you will never be a woman, fuck off troon, belly button stinky are not the actual group that the media wants to get rid of. Twitter users may think those are the enemy but in reality they are just a scapegoat that the media knows they can play off of. The real enemy is having a growing group of people in society who are able to say "lol calm down." The media wants to be able to control people's emotions and tell them how they need to think. Indifference is their biggest fear and they are realizing that more and more people don't give a fuck about the news outside of the weather and what people get arrested for in Florida. There's a reason why they made bullshit claims about Kiwi Farms attacking both political sides. Their goal is the suppression of open discussion to maintain their ability to control narratives, that's all it ever was.

 

[Crunk Sneedler]

I wrote elsewhere that I do not hate troons. I can't stand the infiltrating and virtuous dictator behavior no matter which type of snowflake does it. I think TRAs are annoying. I don't think real women should have to tolerate men in drag in any of their spaces they don't want them in, whether it's women's sports or women's bathrooms. I don't think srs is good for people, at the least it's falsely advertised. I don't care how futuristic "2022" sounds to the ears, medicine was, is, and shall be for some time a clusterfuck shitshow. We do not have the technology to turn a man into a woman. We can just barely even get breast augmentation for women almost sort of right, and plastic surgeons have been trying for 70 years. But if it's what they really want and nobody can talk them out of it then go for it. It's their cock, balls, and guts. I don't blame the troons there. I blame the enabling "doctors" who feel this is a good thing to do to people. I blame the psych professionals who don't notice that wanting to get castrated and have a tunnel dug into one's pelvis is insane, and something that needs to be treated in itself. But I draw the motherfucking line at teaching made up gender theories to pre-teens and baiting them into pondering whether they're "really the opposite sex" and need puberty blockers. That part is how I know the country is off it's hinges for real. I didn't know the extent of it until Lucas went after the farms and caused me to look into it. This lunacy with the kids is nightmare-world, the type of thing I'll put the vidya down for and spend some time on.

None of the above is hatred. None of it is forbidding someone from existing. None of it is wanting anyone dead. Screeching that you'll 41-50% yourself if you can't get all the weird crazy shit you want, is not people wanting you dead. It's just suicide baiting as an alarmingly successful political activism tactic.

In closing, YWNBAW.

 

[Neurotypical Mantis]

destiny orbiter taftaj is the only tranny I'm aware of who both passes and doesn't spread most of the TRA BS. they seem to be disillusioned by trans ideology and transition but doesn't see the point in detransing.

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Honestly I have a lot of respect for them openly disavowing trans ideology despite it alienating themselves from most other trans people, and being open about the realities of transition, because there's nothing that pisses off troons more than that.

also they were sane enough to not cut their dick off so good for them.

irl I have met trannies that I find tolerable, or pass well enough that I can't tell for a while, but none that don't buy into every retarded trans belief.

aw she's pretty. even if filtered to hell or not.
MUAs like eden the doll and nikkitutorials are ok. nikki was better before she came out and when she did i honestly didn't believe it. i thought she was just a huge woman (pl: my mom was a proportionately gigantic woman so i'm more familiar with it.)

 

[buoyverificationfuel]

The "good ones" don't want to talk about trans issues. They don't want to be part of the discourse that all of the terminally online transtrenders and fetishists started. They want to go to work, run errands, and live a normal life. It's like any mental health issue: the people posting into the void constantly are different from the people who have pursued treatment and are just trying to live a normal life.

Blaire White is willing to call out the bullshit within the trans community, and has received a lot of hate for that, so I respect her for that. Nikkie Tutorials is fine, she does makeup stuff and didn't mention being trans until she was outed. She just wants to do makeup videos. I can't think of any other trans people who are popular figures and also decent mostly sane people. For the most part, I'll respect someone's identity (within reason) unless they give me a reason not to.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Anyone listen to the podcast Seeking Derangements? One of the hosts, Hesse, is trans.



His voice and sense of humor are both extremely male so much like pretty much every other tranny I can't bring myself to naturally call him "she." I get the sense he's a more "traditional" troon in that he's really just an extremely feminine man. It's a comedy podcast and he's never made any effort to soapbox about being trans, he's perfectly happy to hurl around "tranny" and "faggot" with the rest of the hosts. He's also insinuated that he believes being trans is a trend and that TIMs are frequently creepy and violent, both of which earn him pluses in my book.

 

[KelpieSelkie]

I don't want to just repeat what others have already said, in that there aren't any "good" trannies, rather I wanted to reframe the good part. There is nothing good about being a tranny, for the tranny themselves or the people around them. However, you can be a good person who participates in your community and helps others out, act with kindness, compassion, and cause no issues for anybody else. A good person could also be afflicted with Gender Dysphoria, but the illness isn't their entire person. It's just a part. Hence, there are no good "trannies" but there are good people. I do not personally want any tranny, no matter how nice and kind and well-loved in their community