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Oats12345 said:
Why you have to dis my man Fred. I actually liked him. Fuck you
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How DARE you like a straight white man over a lesbian woman of color!

That we changed to a lesbian.

And changed to be Indian.

Anyway, you’re a bigot!


I fucking hate what media has become, Jesus Christ,,,
 
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Jonah Hill poster said:
I know we have a Rick & Morty thread, but I really don’t get why there needed to be an incest-subplot in the recent episode they had. Here I kept thinking that this was supposed to be an ”edgy” version of Back To The Future, but now I don’t know what it is anymore.

All I’m saying is that I made the right choice to check out in 2015, the same way I did with Bojack Horseman back in 2016.

It seems as if the mid-2010’s was the end of mature cartoons trying to entertaining, and more of just shoving fake morality complexes and selfish behavior through animation.
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I know I will never watch Bojack Horseman. It's like they think realism = nihilism. Adventure Time's weirdest episodes could get like this too, just aggressively depressing for no reason, but at least it was mostly a fun world and could swing for different tones. I can laugh at R&M bits, but nothing I've seen from Bojack has seemed worth it.

Lil Miku said:
Any thoughts on the Velma being gay in the new Scooby Doo special? All I did was groan, and of course the Twitter crowd ate it all up.
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Mega Black said:
It's also not even new. Velma was clearly fucking that Hot Dog chick in Mystery Incorporated once Shaggy told her he was a bros before hoes kind of nigga.
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I never even got to that chick in Mystery Incorporated because I could not sit through the Shaggy/Velma in season 1. Insanely bad and unclear how much of it was intended to be cringe. They made Velma an actual abuser there.

Commander X said:
They made Velma gay (her falling for a very mid black girl with problem glasses is a bit on the nose) and probably expected to get buzz from a backlash but it seems like mostly no one cares

All of the characters have the classic designs and then there's the weird OC, who looks like something someone posted to their personal art Tumblr.

From this screenshot you can predict a black eye in Velma's future, along with frenzied weeping and recriminations and items being thrown around and at her in a living room.

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Anyways, certain people went into children's programming specifically to do this sort of thing. Bit weird!
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From the clip I saw, it seems like the gal is a suspect, too, so Daphne is teasing her about letting feelings get in the way of the mystery. So problematic.

AnOminous said:
And I know Norville is actually his name, but why couldn't they call him Shaggy? Because of the rapper? Shaggy would just use the Shaggy Defense anyway ("It wasn't me").
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It takes place before they become a team, so maybe he just doesn't have that nickname yet.

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Pure cringe. I remember when everyone thought this show was gona be a horror adventure story instead of being a blatant Little Witch Academia rip-off with yuri pandering & was gona be better than Amphibia back when they were initially revealed.
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What kid wants this shit, my god.



I'm kind of weird about Scooby Doo adaptations, I will give almost all of them a chance (when I have time) because the series has always leaned into alternate timelines where every movie is different and the supernatural is real sometimes and the characters are such great archetypes that you can give them subtle twists of characterization that end up being fun. They team up with Batman for goodness sake. If nothing else, I'm glad the art looks pretty decent for both the special and the Velma show.

But the obsession with rehabilitating Velma is a bit weird, like, she doesn't need it. Daphne is the more underutilized character, whereas Velma always had catchphrases and infodumps that made her stick out. Writers can have more fun with Daphne and Fred because they seem so basic. Even though I have some issues with Mystery Inc., I really loved how they did Fred there. He was dumb but in an insane, autistic way that was so funny and cute.
 
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Trianon said:
It takes place before they become a team, so maybe he just doesn't have that nickname yet.
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That's still what anyone looking at promo material for this will know him as. There's no real point to it other than "hey look I'm really a real fan too I know that shit." Normies will just wonder wtf it is.
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
More Velma news, this time about who Fred will be like.

It’s as bad as you’re expecting it to be.
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>they censored the word white
>Drumpf reference
>gets falsely put in prison, which, of course, leads to Velma "putting him in his place" in the process of rescuing him
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They canceled Close Enough and yet let THIS shit live?!
 
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I don't really have strong feelings about Scooby-Doo except for an interest in animation in general. For the most part the franchise has been "mid" at best, and had several awful iterations, various gimmicks over the decades with different incarnations - the "celebrity" cameo era where you had "The Three Ersatz Stooges" show up or a badly animated Don Adams or whoever walking around, the "they're all children" incarnation, Scooby, Shaggy, Daphne, that little mutant and the token ethnic kid chasing ghosts, etc. but this new show is worse than Jerry Reed singing the one line from "Pretty Mary Sunlight" over and over or any Scrappy-focused entries.

 
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Commander X said:
I don't really have strong feelings about Scooby-Doo except for an interest in animation in general. For the most part the franchise has been "mid" at best, and had several awful iterations, various gimmicks over the decades with different incarnations - the "celebrity" cameo era where you had "The Three Ersatz Stooges" show up or a badly animated Don Adams or whoever walking around, the "they're all children" incarnation, Scooby, Shaggy, Daphne, that little mutant and the token ethnic kid chasing ghosts, etc. but with this new show is worse than Jerry Reed singing the one line from "Little Mary Sunshine" over and over or any Scrappy-focused entries.
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Indeed. It's not like they're besmirching a previously unblemished franchise. At least half the previous versions of it have been absolute trash, and it started out as Hanna Barbera, and when your HB version is the classic everyone else looks to, that's not very promising (and that is still the best version of it that is still syndicated pretty much everywhere).
 
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Oats12345 said:
I just feel bad for Frank Welker that man has been voicing Fred for decades. How do you think he feels seeing his beloved character being shat on and can't say a thing. Because twitter and tumbler will call him a "dinosaur old white man".
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How I feel. These legends are left in the dust of time as their creations are being fucked with by a younger generation who thinks this is a better idea.
 
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