Off-Topic When did you hit peak trans and why? - Finally realized that trans activism and gender ideology are harmful.

[Greyrock]

This argument used to sway me but now I'm just going to offer methods.

When you think about it, at heart it is just emotional blackmail. Threatening to kill yourself if you don't get what you want is something that abusive men have done to battered spouses for a long time. "You can't leave me baby. I'll change! I'll kill myself if you leave me, baby."

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Let me tell you that these people are so unreasonable that they will not like this change. They demand that they be treated as the sex they identify as and these types of accommodations to respect everyone's privacy anger them. They feel that they are being treated as "separate but equal". When schools tried to make adjustments for trans students by offering them a private bathroom, people protested because they "need to be allowed into the bathroom that matches their gender".

One of the things that I don't get is how a boy has spent his whole life in changing rooms with men hanging dong and all of a sudden he identifies as a girl and he's suddenly some fragile flower who can't see dick anymore? Even when he has one?

Makes no sense.

 

[jellygender]

Trans shit depends on you not thinking about it much.

Ding ding ding! This is why silencing dissent and repeating mantras & thought-terminating clichés ("trans women are women", "trans rights are human rights" etc.) are so crucial. It's all a smokescreen to prevent people from confronting the uncomfortable truth: that it's a bankrupt ideology where logical consistency, mind-body integration, and mental/physical health go to die.

Also why transactivists have to go so hard on pronoun bullying, word policing, & other general attempts to control others' perception.

Generally speaking, the trans locus of self-understanding is external, not internal, despite what they would have you think with all the "living my truth" talk. Transes worship their own image as viewed from the outside (i.e. their peers, the mirror, the camera). Their identities are achieved via external validation. They rely on "affirmation" from others, being viewed & continually spoken into existence by others. So the general public gets manipulated into "being kind", squelching cognitive dissonance, and politely engaging in lies and denial of obvious reality... all in service of preventing these folx from having to confront their own delusions.

 

[AnOminous]

Ding ding ding! This is why silencing dissent and repeating mantras & thought-terminating clichés ("trans women are women", "trans rights are human rights" etc.) are so crucial.

"Trans rights are human rights" is the ultimate bullshit, because what other humans get to identify as random bullshit and everyone else has to pretend it's true? If I "identify as" a billionaire do I get a free Lear jet? Only troons get this special treatment.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Ding ding ding! This is why silencing dissent and repeating mantras & thought-terminating clichés ("trans women are women", "trans rights are human rights" etc.) are so crucial. It's all a smokescreen to prevent people from confronting the uncomfortable truth: that it's a bankrupt ideology where logical consistency, mind-body integration, and mental/physical health go to die.

Also why transactivists have to go so hard on pronoun bullying, word policing, & other general attempts to control others' perception.

Generally speaking, the trans locus of self-understanding is external, not internal, despite what they would have you think with all the "living my truth" talk. Transes worship their own image as viewed from the outside (i.e. their peers, the mirror, the camera). Their identities are achieved via external validation. They rely on "affirmation" from others, being viewed & continually spoken into existence by others. So the general public gets manipulated into "being kind", squelching cognitive dissonance, and politely engaging in lies and denial of obvious reality... all in service of preventing these folx from having to confront their own delusions.

That reminds me of an interaction I had a few years back when I was casually seeing this handsome guy: we were at a restaurant, and when he came back from the bathroom he mentioned how it was gender-neutral and how great it was because trans people are human. Looking back I'm fairly certain he was trying to gauge my receptivity towards trans people, but at the time I got weirded out because it felt like he was trying to really convince himself of this, as if he were making an effort to not be transphobic.

 

[Yukako]

When I realized that a good majority of the transgender people I've encountered either had past trauma or a deep-rooted hatred towards femininity. When companies cater to the 1% and erase biological, female terms to not trigger them.

I try to respect peoples pronouns, but when I see shit like "my pronouns depend on what's funniest in the situation", or women that don't even attempt to pass complain that nobody uses their pronouns interchangeably (why even say "any pronouns" if you're going bitch when normal people don't call you an "it"?) I can't help but think that people are only identifying as transgender so they have a zero-effort way of being a protected class.

With the rise of adults trooning out children that show any sign of gender nonconformity, I probably would've ended up the same if born a few years later.

 

[Unnamed Source]

Problem is you can't screen for it. It's not genetic, theres no biological component, this is a social contagion, its entirely memetic, they're brainwashed and groomed, its invariably socially isolated, normally autistic, easily influenced people that are identified by cult members and twisted by propaganda and all the other techniques that troon recruiters share with other cult recruiters, love bombed, gradually and steadily isolated from outside influences so the victims only form of contact and thus information is the cult, its horrific and the problem is this cult is backed up by corrupted medical "authorities" who have caught onto the millions to be made in spreading this shit and other more nefarious interests who have a vested interest in seeing this shit propagate.

Ehhh, I do think there's a biological component to autogynephilia at least - it seems more like a neuropsychological thing to me than something that's learned, but of course that doesn't mean it's genetic either. Could be linked to developmental differences in early childhood.
Then again, I don't think AGP is intrinsically something bad either - if a person recognizes it for what it is and is able to critically think about it I think they can lead a perfectly normal life with the condition, the issue is that it's being indulged and fed into a delusion.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Ehhh, I do think there's a biological component to autogynephilia at least - it seems more like a neuropsychological thing to me than something that's learned, but of course that doesn't mean it's genetic either. Could be linked to developmental differences in early childhood.
Then again, I don't think AGP is intrinsically something bad either - if a person recognizes it for what it is and is able to critically think about it I think they can lead a perfectly normal life with the condition, the issue is that it's being indulged and fed into a delusion.

AGP might have an inherent element to it, but the vast majority of autogynephiles we see on Twitter or Reddit developed it as a social contagion. There is simply no way the massive increase in trannies in just ten years can be explained by neurological or even upbringing issue. You could actually see it developing in real time on SomethingAwful and 4chan at the start. Perfectly fine degenerates going from thirstposting over anime waifus to pretending they were the anime waifus.

 

[エボラちゃん]

I never had a positive outlook toward "sexual minorities". It's deviancy that goes against basic biological functions/needs. I keep that contempt to myself as I consider that people's private affairs is none of mine. Since the LGBT political lobbies increased in power and influence, I'm just having a good laugh at all the retard that cave into all that hypocritical "tolerance and progress" bullshit.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

I don't think gay and trans are that much alike.

You can be gay without impacting any other person, apart from them hearing the word "husband" instead of "wife" or "boyfriend" instead of "girlfriend" (or vice versa)

Unless they are hitting on you or bringing up gay-specific topics, interacting with a gay person in normal everyday situations is no different than interacting with a straight person. If you see your neighbor once every couple of days and don't interact except a head-nod or a wave, that neighbor could be gay and you'd have no clue.*

But being trans forces other people to have to accept your identity and treat you as such. It is, by nature, infringing yourself on other people.


*Trannies love to claim "there's NO WAY of telling who is trans or not!!" but let's not drink the gender kool-aid here. You can absolutely tell Xindressa the dress-wearing tranny from Larissa the biological woman. There's a FTM person who I see regularly at the doctor's office, and despite clearly having been going through significant medical transition (even with facial hair) and dressing like every white-trash dude in my town, I could immediately tell that the genitals do not match the gender. At least this person is actually putting in effort and not dressing like a fetish while insisting they're the realio dealio.

 

[エボラちゃん]

I don't think gay and trans are that much alike.

You can be gay without impacting any other person, apart from them hearing the word "husband" instead of "wife" or "boyfriend" instead of "girlfriend" (or vice versa)

Unless they are hitting on you or bringing up gay-specific topics, interacting with a gay person in normal everyday situations is no different than interacting with a straight person. If you see your neighbor once every couple of days and don't interact except a head-nod or a wave, that neighbor could be gay and you'd have no clue.*

But being trans forces other people to have to accept your identity and treat you as such. It is, by nature, infringing yourself on other people.


*Trannies love to claim "there's NO WAY of telling who is trans or not!!" but let's not drink the gender kool-aid here. You can absolutely tell Xindressa the dress-wearing tranny from Larissa the biological woman. There's a FTM person who I see regularly at the doctor's office, and despite clearly having been going through significant medical transition (even with facial hair) and dressing like every white-trash dude in my town, I could immediately tell that the genitals do not match the gender. At least this person is actually putting in effort and not dressing like a fetish while insisting they're the realio dealio.

I humbly disagree with your statement because homosexual acceptance was the domino that started the slippery slope we're in.
(Feminist also bare responsibility in that.)

 

[Unnamed Source]

AGP might have an inherent element to it, but the vast majority of autogynephiles we see on Twitter or Reddit developed it as a social contagion. There is simply no way the massive increase in trannies in just ten years can be explained by neurological or even upbringing issue. You could actually see it developing in real time on SomethingAwful and 4chan at the start. Perfectly fine degenerates going from thirstposting over anime waifus to pretending they were the anime waifus.

My point is that autogynephilia is an underlying condition, and trooning out is an acute manifestation of it that has only appeared in the past few decades.
In past centuries autogynephiles were just men with weird sexual fantasies about being or becoming a woman, that they mostly kept to themselves. At the very worst, they maybe crossdressed or engaged in degenerate sexual roleplay, but they would never have considered themselves women. That is indeed a modern phenomenon, and brought on by social contagion - you can see it as a harmful meme hijacking the latent autogynephilic tendency of some men.
I think the majority of men with AGP still live unassuming, more or less normal lives. The phenomenon of middle-aged married men suddenly trooning out is the failure state of this, where after decades of coping with their AGP they suffer midlife crisis and then start clinging onto transgenderism.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

I humbly disagree with your statement because homosexual acceptance was the domino that started the slippery slope we're in.
(Feminist also bare responsibility in that.)View attachment 3732968

I can't get from blue suit dude to pink shirt dude, because again, gays getting married impacts two people - the gays who are getting married. It means nothing to anybody else, except, like, insurance providers. Nobody around them is impacted by gays getting married or being generally gay.

Whereas someone with a dick walking into a vaginas-only space and demanding equal treatment impacts all of the women in that space. Or someone wanting to compete in sports where they have an extremely obvious biological advantage, because they totes feel like a woman inside - all of the female competitors are affected.
I keep leaving FTM out of my examples because I've yet to hear about an FTM butting into spaces meant for men to feel comfortable or weaponizing their identity to try and molest little boys in locker rooms or on ferries. If I hear about a FTM teacher who stuffs a cuke down their pants on school grounds in the name of gender euphoria I'll rephrase.

They fall under the same sociopolitical spectrum, but adults being able to do what they want in their bedroom is not the same as adults weaponizing their identities to deliberately cross boundaries with every other person they interact with.

 

[Call Me Mellow Yellow]

I humbly disagree with your statement because homosexual acceptance was the domino that started the slippery slope we're in.
(Feminist also bare responsibility in that.)View attachment 3732968

Many members of the LGB have made their frustrations with the T clear. What happens when you do that? You get canceled. You get deplatformed. You get your job called. You get publicly labeled a bigot. I firmly believe that this is not the world they wanted at all. But this extremist group has a lot of power and sway.

 

[Where's Waldo?]

AGP might have an inherent element to it, but the vast majority of autogynephiles we see on Twitter or Reddit developed it as a social contagion. There is simply no way the massive increase in trannies in just ten years can be explained by neurological or even upbringing issue. You could actually see it developing in real time on SomethingAwful and 4chan at the start. Perfectly fine degenerates going from thirstposting over anime waifus to pretending they were the anime waifus.

Prolly just because they'd get made fun of online for thirstposting about cartoon chicks, but if they pretend that they're actually female instead, then braindead retards will say, "hey bby show me ur tits " or treat them as less abjectly pathetic.

Although, saying "i'm trans" just reveals that they're male again, so I don't get why the hell they brag about being trans. prolly just too much tranny porn.

 

[Heavy Duty Boots]

I know it isn't as bombastic as some of the stories ITT, but here it goes:
It was around 2015, when they started to infest every single group on every goddamn platform about anything nerdy. First it would be a couple of trannies trying to stealth in a group, then they'd get outed and make a big post about how it's totally okay to be trans and it shouldn't matter to us. I used to believe those kinds of posts because at first they truly did no harm, but eventually, when a group reached a critical mass of trannies, it'd be completely ruined.
It would start with some off-topic posts about trans shit. Most people didn't care, but the ones that called out the trannies would get yelled at and reported for being transphobic. The trannies would use that as an excuse to get modded, and then proceed to invite all their tranny friends over, make them mods and completely ruin the group. I saw this happen several times, and couldn't help but notice the pattern.
As I got more exposed to trannies and tranny shit the mask started sliding off. Gradually I began to hate them. So I researched and came across some posts on a lesbian reddit (circa 2016) talking about the horrors of trannies, and that was the peak. Despite the infinite annoyance they caused for ruining previously good groups I thought they were an Internet only phenomena, so I was ok with ignoring it. After reading from the lesbians that trannies are an actual danger to anyone around them I knew this was an evil that couldn't be ignored.

 

[FarmVille]

I humbly disagree with your statement because homosexual acceptance was the domino that started the slippery slope we're in.
(Feminist also bare responsibility in that.)View attachment 3732968

I don’t know WTF you’re on about transgenderism is damn near 100% the realm of spicy straights and heterosexual perverts. Forcing kink shit into the mainstream was all heterosexuals too.

 

[Maginot]

way easier to divert people thirsting for meaning into a cult compared to lobbying for not being weird for being gay

 

[glass_houses]

I don’t know WTF you’re on about transgenderism is damn near 100% the realm of spicy straights and heterosexual perverts. Forcing kink shit into the mainstream was all heterosexuals too.

Eh... maybe? I think it's a bit more complex than that. I actually think it started when homosexual and bisexual communities were invaded by the 'queers', who turned the narrative around from men and women who just happened to be sexually attracted to the same sex, to making being 'queer' and their sexuality- often pretend sexuality, i.e, girls who are 'pansexual' but are horrified by the idea of having sex contact with another woman- the entirety of their identities and culture. Everything that's happening now kind of evolved from there.

 

[Israellover1234]

"Trans rights are human rights" is the ultimate bullshit, because what other humans get to identify as random bullshit and everyone else has to pretend it's true? If I "identify as" a billionaire do I get a free Lear jet? Only troons get this special treatment.

What does that slogan even mean?

If we look at the declaration of human rights: https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

a) It does not mention "sexual identity"
b) There is no human right which guarantees chopping your penis off on the taxpayers dime
c) In many ways the declaration of human rights is more conservative than most trannies Article 16 says: "The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State." I'd argue that most of these people are not part of a family (containing children), most of them are gay sex pests. The same goes for Article 25 (2), offering special protection for motherhood.
d) The only Article which touches health/doctors is Article 25 (1), saying people are entitled to medical care in some form. I wouldn't presume paying 10.000 + bucks to reform your bone structure, construct a neovagina, get hormones for life, changing your vocal cords, etc. only to still not pass as a woman constitutes "basic" medical care.

I'd like anybody to quote an Article of the Declaration which disproves my point. The Declaration took place in 1948. Nobody gave two shits about trannies back then and nobody should now.