Favourite "Old Internet" stuff - Let's reminisce about the Wild West days

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One of the things I miss is the lack of porn. People say the internet was popularized by porn but this is BS, back then porn was behind a paywall and it was mostly to sell VHS and DVDs. It wasn't until the mid to late 2000 when video streaming became a thing that you really had free porn everywhere. The consequence is that now porn has permeated into internet culture, everything has a porn meme, every conversation gets a porn reference like a goldwin law but instead of hitler its porn. I used to think that the "20 year old coomer" was a meme but people who were kids back in 2005 got mindbroken by porn. I didn't see any hardcore porn until my late teens, but now you got kids who were watching a girl getting fucked in the ass when they were still in elementary. Those kids are now coomers wearing hentai hoodies and thinking that getting SRS will turn them into an anime girl.
I discovered porn when I was very young, I think around 2006 and it was still a mix between paywalls and free streaming. I guess about that time every kid in my school knew about Internet porn, some more than others. I was a relatively sheltered kid, so I was very shocked when I was at a friend's house and he showed me porn that was way more extreme than anything I had seen up until that point.... Really fucked up, I honestly didn't know how to deal with it, so I just pretended that I was okay with it. I mean, none of the other invitees said anything... fucking herd mentality that I have.

Uh, but I sort of miss hentai sites from that era. I don't know if it's because of the novelty or some weird nostalgia, but it was pretty wild to discover what anime was back then, along with its pornographic aspect. I can't find any of those old sites and I can't find any of the hentai I watched as a kid. This sucks! Some were really cool, especially one where a guy saves an important political damsel from pirates, but is wounded in the process. What does she do to help him? Has sex with him - I thought that was great! And it was multi-layered, she would lick his wounds clothed, and then in five or ten minute intervals she'd remove a piece of clothing. The sex act took so long some political big shots were like "uh, isn't the princess supposed to be here by now?" lmao. Anyway, I digressed a lot...
 
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Erowid and Lycauem were the two sites of the 90s young psychonauts. Glad I lived it, glad I outgrew it.
Shit, you just reminded me of one of the most informative sites I used to visit, the clandestine chemistry emporium that was known as "The Hive". Started by a bunch of legit meth cooks, but there were people who specialized in the synthesis of MDA/MDMA, LSD, and any other synthetic drug that you could imagine. I think it got pulled offline in 2004 or so, and I know there was an archive torrent floating around at one point, I'm going to have to look and see if I can find out more, because I used to spend a shitload of time there and now I'm curious as to what exactly happened to it.
 
Not exactly a "favorite" and definitely not "weird shit I was into when I were young", but I know the Christian Boylove Forum existed and now you must share my terrible curse.

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Wow, it's archive-only but it's still there

 
Not exactly a "favorite" and definitely not "weird shit I was into when I were young", but I know the Christian Boylove Forum existed and now you must share my terrible curse.

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Wow, it's archive-only but it's still there

Lol, everything down to that fucking symbol glows hard.

Edit: this site is no what it used to be at all (it's more of a straight up blog now) but I used to love www.grimcity.com.

Archive of old site here, but this guy was big into flash and most of the site just doesn't work anymore. Maybe it will if you have some kind of flash simulator but my android flash player doesn't seem to work here.
 
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Happy tree friends, burning CD's, ares galaxy, kazaa, screensavers, MSN Messenger, emoticon stealers, spyware bundled browser plugins, Smiley Central, GNAA, Mygot, Totse, back when Maddox was funny, habbo hotel raids, geocities, the golden age of flash animation, shock sites, screamers, tekzoned (look it up, it's mostly broken due to lack of flash support),
 
Happy tree friends, burning CD's, ares galaxy, kazaa, screensavers, MSN Messenger, emoticon stealers, spyware bundled browser plugins, Smiley Central, GNAA, Mygot, Totse, back when Maddox was funny, habbo hotel raids, geocities, the golden age of flash animation, shock sites, screamers, tekzoned (look it up, it's mostly broken due to lack of flash support),
Flash was so magical.

Animation finally became accessible to the (at least somewhat computer literate) everyman, and there was so much cool and weird shit out there.

I miss it so much that I still refuse to have the now inactive flash player on my desktop uninstalled so I get that annoying notification every time I restart my computer.

Also RIP funny Maddox. As much as I loved TBPITU podcasts tend to show more of a creator than is wise.

If it weren't for that podcast his audience might still be as big. Even allowing for his Twitch and YT channel.
 
I was super active in the LUE community as a kid, and from there I kinda springboarded into the other bad neighborhoods of the internet.
Ah, for the halcyon days of picking fights with posters on the Shaq-fu board...

I'm embarrassed to say it in current year, but maddox.xmission.com
It will remain a mystery whether he bought into his persona after so long of being Cool On The Internet or whether it was a notable example of "Oh shit that wasn't satire", and I'm not sure which is worse.


I also have fond memories of spending  hours just browsing through Elfwood (and the sci-fi equivalent that I no longer remember the name of). So many talented artists without as much of the overt silliness of DeviantArt.
 
Zelda Grand Adventures.
it was my first gateway website into Zelda stuff and eventually learning about New Grounds when browsing affiliated websites.
I remember one website being Zelda Power, it had an old shitty webcomic called "Link Jr" which was drawing like Southpark in a shitty MS paint art style.
 
I miss the days where teen girls had blog style websites entirely in size 8 text with a landing page and a bunch of affiliate buttons. We all kept our pages exactly the same because HTML was still new to the general public and Lissa Explains taught us everything. If you didn't sign someone's guestbook you weren't really their friend.

I miss MSN Messanger but I really miss the old chatrooms. Hell, I kinda miss Yahoo Chat. That shitshow was entertaining.

I do not miss ICQ.
 
It's been (rightfully) mentioned several times, but it cannot be understated how much early Newgrounds was influential and amazing. Finding it for the first time opened the door to a type of content that was unheard of before and sadly mostly now with the BS sanitation if the internet. The unique flair of creators working purely for passion created too many memories of masterpieces and masterpieces of lack of self-awareness. I was really into getting me NG level up and even gave my friend my log on info when my family went on vacation so I wouldn't miss days. The perks you got were nuts, I never got the super high end ones but I did get high enough to where you could post something and have it appear on the front page.

I similarly loved YTMND for similar reasons in the mid-to-late 2000s vs NG's early 2000s. Internet culture was a little more homogenized, but not anywhere close to the dystopian level of today. All the individual YTMND fads where always fun to keep up with. Seeing Max flip the bird to most parties who complained about YTMND was amazing and makes me miss when sites where not just owned by faceless demonic corporations. Null is one of the last that feel of that era of owner-operators and that is a big reason I am drawn to the Farms.

I just miss the segmented internet were everything was indivualized. I remembr when I was in elementary school I found this Mario RPG fan-site where there was a list of like "500 signs you play Mario RPG too much", and some Yoshi fan site I printed a "poster" from it that was just crappy Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story sprites pasted on a background in paint... and I think I still have it somewhere, probably the last fragment that site ever existed. I had my own crappy videogame site I made in Freewebs with a fan club section for popular characters as well as totally non-sense niche characters from games I was playing at the time no one knew such as Bobbin the protagonist of Loom. You had to email me to get your name added to a fan club and I actually got close to a hundred applicants... I made the site in the late 90's and got my last submission in like 2005. The site was still up until 2014ish and I even had fun showing it to my girlfriend at the time who signed my (surprisingly) still online guestbook. It's gone now but at least it is archived.

The old wild west internet was just truly an amazing time... and it sucks it's been basically robbed from us. I am happy I experienced it and hearing zoomers talk with reverence and\or disgust about 2015 "wild west Youtube" makes me sad since they don't even understand bum-fights and tourettes guy mid-2000's YouTube, not to mention the real wild west of web 1.0. Maybe it's a blessing the don't know what they missed and are mentally used to being censored niggercattle and commonly loving it.
 
I actually miss the old Nick.com, back when they focused a lot on fun little Flash games based on the shows. Disney Channel's site too. Cartoon Network even had a whole MMO for Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends that was really cool.
For anyone who misses those old Flash games, there's a really neat preservation project with a lot of Flash games and other dead plugin games preserved in it called Flashpoint: https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/
 
Trolling Groups, specifically Youtube.

There were so many small/unremarkable organizations that would "take over" people's Youtube channels and spam/harass them into compliance. A little collection of E-street gangs, each with their own chain of command and calling cards. They were completely harmless, but some people actually became worried/afraid of some. Mostly boomers and mentally ill people.
 
Happy tree friends, burning CD's, ares galaxy, kazaa, screensavers, MSN Messenger, emoticon stealers, spyware bundled browser plugins, Smiley Central, GNAA, Mygot, Totse, back when Maddox was funny, habbo hotel raids, geocities, the golden age of flash animation, shock sites, screamers, tekzoned (look it up, it's mostly broken due to lack of flash support),
I still have a folder full of happy tree friends .swf files somewhere, from the dialup days when downloading 1mb took ages, thats one thing of the old internet I certainly dont miss.

Totse I wish I had found it earlier, lots of shit content, the best contributors were leaving and then it collapsed. Never tried the shit there tho, specially not the "how to make C4" tutorials. I remember the credit card scam thing but there werent any abandoned houses nearby to get the card delivered to so I didn't even try, if only to have a card that said "Niggel Niggard" or something.

Ares was a cesspit of malware, edonkey never worked, there were a few napster clones that had better quality files but download speeds were atrocious and users left. Really filesharing only got really good when torrents got traction and there was a short golden age with megaupload and mediafire when you could find literally anything, even corporate software worth more than a used car. Plus back then most games were under 1GB or a few GB, you could fit several into one DVDR, only a couple links to download. You couldn't do that shit with current bloated 100GB+ games, I tried a UE4 indie demo the other day and just that thing was 20GB, insane.

Habbo hotel was what got me into coding, when I first saw the hacks and clones others were making it was like finding arcane knowledge or something. Same with game mods, funny how they tried to get kids into coding back then with LOGO and that turtle, but most of my generation got into this because of web stuff like habbo and wanting to make games.
Flash was so magical.

Animation finally became accessible to the (at least somewhat computer literate) everyman, and there was so much cool and weird shit out there.

I miss it so much that I still refuse to have the now inactive flash player on my desktop uninstalled so I get that annoying notification every time I restart my computer.

Also RIP funny Maddox. As much as I loved TBPITU podcasts tend to show more of a creator than is wise.

If it weren't for that podcast his audience might still be as big. Even allowing for his Twitch and YT channel.
Flash was great but good god there was a ton of shit, tons of people who shouldnt been allowed to make content doing it, but its the same everywhere right? there are always shitty bands, shitty indie movies, shitty games, we just forget about those and only remember the few good ones. Idk what amateur animation tools are used now but I guess its not that easy to use since theres way less content now, most of the good animators you see on youtube now are the best people who honed their skills on newgrounds back in the day. Seems most new kids go with SFM instead, tho again tons of shit content there, dare I saw more shit than the one from the flash era? or maybe I've nostalgia glasses on.

As for maddox he should've quit a decade ago or more, the point of no return was when he sperged out about the cuck meme showing he was too old to get the joke and was the old man yelling at the kids on his lawn.
I miss MSN Messanger but I really miss the old chatrooms. Hell, I kinda miss Yahoo Chat. That shitshow was entertaining.

I do not miss ICQ.
Microsoft really fucked up by letting messenger die, its by far the most popular web service they ever made.

Anyway, what's wrong with ICQ?
It's been (rightfully) mentioned several times, but it cannot be understated how much early Newgrounds was influential and amazing. Finding it for the first time opened the door to a type of content that was unheard of before and sadly mostly now with the BS sanitation if the internet.
We're "back to normal" when you think about it, those years and 90's culture came after decades of bullshit mass-produced generic entertainment being the norm, and now we're back to that.
The old wild west internet was just truly an amazing time... and it sucks it's been basically robbed from us. I am happy I experienced it and hearing zoomers talk with reverence and\or disgust about 2015 "wild west Youtube"
Ha! they really think like that? 2015 was the end of the road, its when the guys upstairs began to sanitize everything because gamergate! misogyny! and other content that scared the aposematic broads and scrawny soys was cropping up, can't have wrongthink! no sir! and pathetic as they were they mostly came from the upper class meaning they had connections.
not to mention the real wild west of web 1.0. Maybe it's a blessing the don't know what they missed and are mentally used to being censored niggercattle and commonly loving it.
They would freak out at the old web if only because of how hard it was to use. Current web content its digital crack, consumption for the sake of consumption, using tiktok is about watching 10sec videos one after another, it all becomes the same because theres no differentiation, its all cheap highs like crack cocaine, and much like it your brain gets fried.
 
I miss finding new music just by searching limewire for what I wanted, and downloading it in the hopes it was good. Like I'm sure if I searched "ddr techno" into YouTube or something I would find...just that. But I miss the limewire scattershot of everything correctly, incorrectly, and maybe sometimes just wrongly labeled.

I also miss sites like secrets of Sonic team, because it wasn't a fucking Wikia but it had information, and was categorized like one. The main difference was the layout and UI were cool.
 
We will fucking NEVER have another experience quite like gaming rumors spreading around the 'Net like wildfire. In a world where (for the most part) you can search up and see if something is true or false, back then if some dude even had the slightest knowithow on using photoshop and posting a shitty screencap of it on a forum claiming they managed to find hidden content within a game, people would go batshit INSANE and try their damndest to figure out how to get to said hidden content.
This is probably what some people would call "playground rumors," and let me tell you it was a special kind of feeling knowing that your favorite game might have something in it that you didn't even know about. Now with the Internet as big as it is, weeding out fakes is easier than ever and you could just search up anything about a game and you'll pretty much know almost everything about it.

Also I miss Yahoo Answers. Fuck Quora and Ask.com, they will never be as funny as people asking stupid shit like this
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Fan shrines and sites (I visited a ton of Sailor Moon ones in particular), Quizilla, classic Runescape, early Neopets and Newgrounds, Dollz, EverythingGirl.com, cute pixel adoption sites/toyboxes, those weird flash animations that mostly came from Albino Blacksheep. Good times.
 
Flash was great but good god there was a ton of shit, tons of people who shouldnt been allowed to make content doing it, but its the same everywhere right? there are always shitty bands, shitty indie movies, shitty games, we just forget about those and only remember the few good ones. Idk what amateur animation tools are used now but I guess its not that easy to use since theres way less content now, most of the good animators you see on youtube now are the best people who honed their skills on newgrounds back in the day. Seems most new kids go with SFM instead, tho again tons of shit content there, dare I saw more shit than the one from the flash era? or maybe I've nostalgia glasses on.

That was my whole point, though.

It was like the wild west of interactive animation.

On one side you got polished family friendly stuff like Homestarrunner.com and on the other side you got stuff made by some random retard who could barely draw.

I enjoyed nearly all of it.
 
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