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[ShitLurker]

Jesus Christ lol.

The amount of backstabbing and do nothingness is peak 2022.

The year of the chud bros got too cocky.

AZ can be written off for Trump.

And the Democrats will win GA as a result.

This is the real conclusion. 2020 happened, nothing was done, 2022 happened again. Once shame on you twice shame on me. No reason to believe 2024 won't happen again unless something crazy unexpected with Trump, the supreme court or what have you happens.

Kari Lake was fucking robbed. I'm pissed.

Me too MILF bro, me too.

There should be lawsuits about everything in NV and AZ, supposedly both states do signature match and that should force an audit in Maricopa especially. Just get it on record the no latches standing.

At least the AZ house and senate are still GOP, just so they can't ram through voting laws, unless that was also fortified.

Them being GOP did fuck all after 2020, it's obviously by design at this point.

HEY! Quit your doomering. Things look really good for Republican prospects on taking the House now. Barring any fuckery in California Republicans take the House.
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Sorry but I have to be blunt, republicans getting the house means FUCKING NOTHING if it's the graceful losers and that's exactly what we are getting. RINO is uniparty stooge at this rate, Mitch can fucking hate Obama or whoever all he wants but will always fold to uniparty interest, it's blatantly clear now.

If Kari Lake did really lose, then it will be somewhat of a shock. Out of all the female politicians in the Republican Party of today, she seemed a lot more adept and competent when one has to figure out how that same party managed to get women like Liz Cheney and Meghan McCain to just be graceful losers.

Precisely because she wasn't a stooge and was starting to look like the real MAGA succesor instead of Desantis she had to be stopped at all cost.

It's a mix of cheating and lack of support from other Republicans that resulted in Lake losing. That's the simple fact of the matter. If Republicans hadn't knee-capped themselves she could of won with enough support. That's why even now I don't think the democrat rigging elections is too much to overcome. We saw with Johnson in Wisconsin that sometimes the margins are just too much for cheating to be possible. If Republicans would stop fighting each other and come together, they could win despite the odds. Hopefully, these rough few years will toughen them up.

It's imposible for them to stop fighting because it's two different political parties inside the same party. Only option is dominance of one side or the other and for now cuckservatives are winning.

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Only two days.
TWO. DAYS.

Never forget that Kari Lake was on record actually being one of the first noticeable politicians to call out the fact that Democrats were the original “election deniers”

Kari Lake Flips Script, Forces Reporters to See Who 'Election Deniers' Really Are

Arizona GOP gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake was not having it when a reporter wanted her to address whether she is a 2020 election denier.

www.westernjournal.com

That’s how I knew she was really different and not just a show-off. I hope to see her in the future with more success. Her and Tulsi Gabbard are the kinds of people that can willingly change their minds and not just get in political office to enrich themselves.

Though, things could change and maybe I might be proven wrong. Either way, I just wish her luck in her future endeavors.

You and me both. She still has fire in her, lets see what she does with the results from a legal standpoint.

One of the most irritating parts of this that I encounter, aside from the reality that our country is flushed, is that disingenuous and/or retarded leftoids keep regurgitating the line "but surely if there was fraud, the Republicans wouldn't win anything! BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS THAT WON?!"

Not all races are necessary or equally able to be frauded. They are playing it strategically and only expending their efforts in the necessary races at the necessary time. The House is not quite as important as the Senate in anything meaningful as we saw for the 2 last years Trump had, and they made sure to fraud the governorship races in almost all of the relevant states - Stacey Abrams really is just such a disgusting cow retard that even fraud can't help her win. But they set the board for the next election, which is what the right needs to catch onto, along with a few other points. They're not cheating "for this election" in the sense that they're committing fraud so they can necessarily just win 2022 - they're setting the board so they can pull another truly massive level of fraud in 2024.

And like I said earlier, this level of fraud doesn't just get cleanly voted out. I've never read a case of some political machine like this just getting defeated and saying "yeah we lost fair and square, your turn now."

Isn't Abrams constantly losing to a cuckservative anyway? It's a good result, controllable gop puppet and they can phase out tooth gap that was getting uppity.

Desantis beats trump in primary, wins presidential election to much surprise, gets in and...

it's Obama.

That's what they want happening. Because it'd demoralize the fuck out of people who voted for Trump. And it's probably what's going to happen in 2024.

There's already a lot of people who think it'd be a great idea, because apparently looking into the history of career politicians is just too much effort.

Seems like the endgame, yeah, kill the populism with a lame presidency. Maybe use it to kick the trannies to the curve but everything else importamt fails or isn't followed up on.

It makes me wonder just how far back the fixing goes and if a certain fluke was actually a fluke

My own theory is that the election was fixed and nobody bothered telling Hillary that she wasn't going to win

Definitely a fluke, they were so high on their supply they got caught flat footed and Hillary just tantrumed instead of fighting back.

Trump gives his response to the whole thing.

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And he should already know this, the question is what now.

Seems awfully low energy for him, I imagine he has to be more careful with words now but still I'm pretty sure I've seen him more outraged and upset about the outcomes of sportsball drama before lmao

May be that the man is just deflated. I know I am with the red wave being the red shitstain. Hopefully he can bounce back though I really don't know what he can pull out of his ass at this rate.

Well, hopefully she doesn't turn Arizona into another California.

Well all those Cali faggots need somwhere cheap to go to after getting sacked by Facebook and Twitter ;D

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Kari Lake was fucking robbed. I'm pissed.

Hobbs didn't even want to debate Lake because she didn't want to "give [Lake] a platform for election denialism", and yet Hobbs still won after several days of vote counting and reports of issues with voting machines among other things?

Totally nothing suspicious there.

 

[verissimus]

"Sorry but I have to be blunt, republicans getting the house means FUCKING NOTHING if it's the graceful losers and that's exactly what we are getting. RINO is uniparty stooge at this rate, Mitch can fucking hate Obama or whoever all he wants but will always fold to uniparty interest, it's blatantly clear now."

It doesn't help that even if Republicans do take the House, it will be by a razor thin margin. In other words, a margin small enough for a few RINOs to do what Synema and Manchin has been doing to their own party in the Senate. I don't expect House Republicans to rock the boat pretty much at all.

 

[X Prime]

The House being GOP leading to gridlock is pure cope.

RINOs will vote for uniparty bills. I mean come on.

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

The House being GOP leading to gridlock is pure cope.

RINOs will vote for uniparty bills. I mean come on.

Any Republican that votes on any issue like guns, speech, or any of that other bullshit will quickly find themselves as the next Liz Cheney. RINOs may be RINOs but few have the absolute lack of self-preservation required that would lead to putting forth/voting for bills to expand the supreme court and shit like that. I don't imagine very much will be done. Most of the two years will be spent going after Hunter Biden, and MAYBE fucking with Joe's financing for stuff like infrastructure. It ultimately won't accomplish much and will just be for show, but at least you get two years to live your life without worrying if the sky is going to collapse. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong. I just don't see any point at all in complaining and dooming on the internet.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Well, a bunch of companies are laying off employees as we speak, and there is a 100% chance of a recession (that the Krugmans and Yellens will not be able to acktchually their way out of) in the next year.

The neighborcattle are already getting what they voted for.

"The world will look up and shout, 'save us!' And will whisper, 'no'".

When Amazon announces layoffs in November you know shit is fucked.

 

[ShitLurker]

Any Republican that votes on any issue like guns, speech, or any of that other bullshit will quickly find themselves as the next Liz Cheney. RINOs may be RINOs but few have the absolute lack of self-preservation required that would lead to putting forth/voting for bills to expand the supreme court and shit like that. I don't imagine very much will be done. Most of the two years will be spent going after Hunter Biden, and MAYBE fucking with Joe's financing for stuff like infrastructure. It ultimately won't accomplish much and will just be for show, but at least you get two years to live your life without worrying if the sky is going to collapse. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong. I just don't see any point at all in complaining and dooming on the internet.

Wasn't thay what we were getting when Sleepy took power? Last time I checked it's been a constant disaster of shit that affects people in day to day and without them managing to push trough BBB. Oh and both sides love giving money to Ukraine

 

[Mister Uno]

This country hates women in charge.

I do but I can't say the same for everybody. Men in positions of power these days are so weak that by comparison women seem like strong leaders, if not ARE stronger leaders. Pretty sad state of affairs if you ask me.

 

[raspberry mocha]

Just voote harder next time, guys.

 

[HackerX]

I'll say this. If @The Last Stand makes a sound political point or prediction, you should be scared.

I for one, eagerly anticipate I start getting a chub for HRC. For all the "crossing the rubicon" discussion that happens in this thread, that'll be my personal version.

 

[Back me up!]

I wish I saved that twitter thread breaking it down but with the loss of AZ I don't think the Republican, no matter who they nominate, have a path to the presidency in 2024. The Dem ballot harvest operation in PA, AZ (where something like 87% was mail in/drop off), etc is just too strong in too many states. And the blue states are certainly not going to change it now.

Like the whole landscape had changed (twice now). Debates do not matter. VOTES do not matter. All that matters is which political party has the best and most effective ballot harvesting operation. And Republicans are completely lacking on that end.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I wish I saved that twitter thread breaking it down but with the loss of AZ I don't think the Republican, no matter who they nominate, have a path to the presidency in 2024. The Dem ballot harvest operation in PA, AZ (where something like 87% was mail in/drop off), etc is just too strong in too many states. And the blue states are certainly not going to change it now.

Like the whole landscape had changed (twice now). Debates do not matter. VOTES do not matter. All that matters is which political party has the best and most effective ballot harvesting operation. And Republicans are completely lacking on that end.

So what’s the next step? Besides prepping the orifices for the destruction to come?

The House being GOP leading to gridlock is pure cope.

RINOs will vote for uniparty bills. I mean come on.

Any Republican that votes on any issue like guns, speech, or any of that other bullshit will quickly find themselves as the next Liz Cheney. RINOs may be RINOs but few have the absolute lack of self-preservation required that would lead to putting forth/voting for bills to expand the supreme court and shit like that. I don't imagine very much will be done. Most of the two years will be spent going after Hunter Biden, and MAYBE fucking with Joe's financing for stuff like infrastructure. It ultimately won't accomplish much and will just be for show, but at least you get two years to live your life without worrying if the sky is going to collapse. But who knows, maybe I'm wrong. I just don't see any point at all in complaining and dooming on the internet.

Not sure how much is MAGA, but I’m willing to bet at least some will be able to at least appear down with MAGA things to stay in their position. Hell, all you have to do is go on Twitter and announce you’re against shit going to Ukraine, while MTG and Boebert go on about turning up the heat on Biden and Wray for impeachment proceedings.

 

[mandatorylurk]

I wish I saved that twitter thread breaking it down but with the loss of AZ I don't think the Republican, no matter who they nominate, have a path to the presidency in 2024. The Dem ballot harvest operation in PA, AZ (where something like 87% was mail in/drop off), etc is just too strong in too many states. And the blue states are certainly not going to change it now.

Like the whole landscape had changed (twice now). Debates do not matter. VOTES do not matter. All that matters is which political party has the best and most effective ballot harvesting operation. And Republicans are completely lacking on that end.

As it stands, Trump needs to win back WI, GA and AZ and that gets him 270 exactly. WI seems workable right now if Ron Johnson was able to hold off a steal, GA should be ok but with Raffensperger at the helm and how GA still seemed to let harvesting continue in Atlanta this year who knows, and AZ will have to have lawsuits setup to make sure everyone involved in the election this year are nowhere near it.

The word is thrown around a lot but there was actual disenfranchisement done in Maricopa by having up to 25% of the machines not working, then the officials lying to people saying go to another location and it'll be ok (it would have put that person into being DQ'd for voting twice), there's things to sue over now and the state legislature should push for someone from FL to show how they cleaned up Broward County.

 

[Psyduck]

Fully convinced that Texas should secede now, blackpilled not by the fraud shenanigans, but by the fact that almost half of the country lets their genitals make their decisions, if there was any fuckery or not, you cant just ignore the rot in the population, niggas seriously overlooked their empty dinner tables, layouts, and gas prices just to keep cooming and cooming

 

[Back me up!]

As it stands, Trump needs to win back WI, GA and AZ and that gets him 270 exactly. WI seems workable right now if Ron Johnson was able to hold off a steal, GA should be ok but with Raffensperger at the helm and how GA still seemed to let harvesting continue in Atlanta this year who knows, and AZ will have to have lawsuits setup to make sure everyone involved in the election this year are nowhere near it.

The word is thrown around a lot but there was actual disenfranchisement done in Maricopa by having up to 25% of the machines not working, then the officials lying to people saying go to another location and it'll be ok (it would have put that person into being DQ'd for voting twice), there's things to sue over now and the state legislature should push for someone from FL to show how they cleaned up Broward County.

That sounds great and all but if the AZ leg branch push and pass bill to make it like FL Hobss can just veto all of it. Maybe if the lawsuits win enough that Hobbs herself is indicated but that is going to be a tough battle.

Like it is not even Trump vs DeSantis any more: Unless the old Republican guard understand how the came is changed nothing will change on the Federal level. Even with Deadlock between the branches we will see a massive rise in EO again since Obama.

 

[XANA]

Hobbs didn't even want to debate Lake because she didn't want to "give [Lake] a platform for election denialism", and yet Hobbs still won after several days of vote counting and reports of issues with voting machines among other things?

Totally nothing suspicious there.

That's what you get when you allow ballot counting four days after the polls close. Mysterious mail-in ballots that vote overwhelmingly democratic counted in the dead of night.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Make Hobbs veto it, keep bringing it up and don't let anything pass until she addresses it, the failures of the election need to be hung around her neck so even the McCain RINOs can see something needs to be done because "what are you hiding?" You don't even have to make it statewide, make it Maricopa only to clean up to make the rest of the state not embarassed.

In these "purple" places you have to accept being a hardass with the power you have. In Harris County in Houston there was something similar to Maricopa, they "ran out" of ballot paper at 7AM which let the Soros back county judge (a super mayor basically) win reelection and there might actually be serious stuff going on now and even the possibility of a recall election. It's a red state but the increasing fraud is being pushed to where only the truly partisan left are acting like it's a fair election.

 

[Meat Target]

What does Arizona's state legislature look like?

And how did Paul Gosar, a guy who is a-logged by even his own family, win 100% of the vote in his district? Seems unlikely that he'd run uncontested.

Fully convinced that Texas should secede now, blackpilled not by the fraud shenanigans, but by the fact that almost half of the country lets their genitals make their decisions, if there was any fuckery or not, you cant just ignore the rot in the population, niggas seriously overlooked their empty dinner tables, layouts, and gas prices just to keep cooming and cooming

This is how I feel. Dems will cheat here and there when they need to get across the goal line, but in general, they don't need it. They have hordes of gormless neighborcattle eager to do their bidding.

 

[ShitLurker]

I for one, eagerly anticipate I start getting a chub for HRC. For all the "crossing the rubicon" discussion that happens in this thread, that'll be my personal version.

How many times now has it been crossed at this rate? Poor Rubicon's ass is so stretched out it doesn't even react anymore.

So what’s the next step? Besides prepping the orifices for the destruction to come?




Not sure how much is MAGA, but I’m willing to bet at least some will be able to at least appear down with MAGA things to stay in their position. Hell, all you have to do is go on Twitter and announce you’re against shit going to Ukraine, while MTG and Boebert go on about turning up the heat on Biden and Wray for impeachment proceedings.

The most crucial step is there being any sort of consequence to the week long ellection horseshit. That has the same problem Trump had in 2020 which is everybody in the chain actually pushing hard for it and I don't expect Mitch letting his pet judges, suprene or otherwise, go up to bat for a filthy MAGA polititian. So unless some deals are made behind closed doors that allow both sides of the GOP to align, legal warfare is already to a bad start (but should still be pushed).

As for polititians giving lip service to maga when they are actually cucks. Yeah, sure, they'll do some of that, problem is they will allow small concessions here and there like what constantly happens to the poor 2nd amendment. The GOP doesn't directly betray it's electorate in one fell swoop, it does it by never putting any real effort and going "aw shuks that would be totally different if the roles were reversed!" , no shit faggot, but what are you going to do about it.

As for half the country being retarded coomers, not much that can be done there. The educational system, we are all winners policy and pushing of degenerate expression over everything else has caused tremendous damage that won't be fixed in a decade even with absolute power and everyone onboard. Yuri was right, a demotivated population is truly a scary sight and le based zoomers being horseshit shows that it's getting worse. No easy solution for that and I still wouldn't be surprised if the country balkanizes in a decade or two because I honestly don't see tensions between the 2 americas calming down, specially when one is constantly getting kicked in the face. Honestly, I still think the US fracturing into 2 or more countries would be for the best but who the hell knows how dominoes would drop in that case and everything would be shit for a couple more decades at least.

 

[quaawaa]

Texas' legislative agenda for next session includes a state electoral college. They're initially only planning on implementing it for State elections (e.g. Governor) not Federal (e.g. Senate/President). The plan is for each State Senate district to send one elector who votes based off of how the majority of people in their district voted and whoever wins the majority of electors wins.

34. State Electoral College: The State Legislature shall cause to be enacted a State Constitutional Amendment creating an electoral college consisting of electors selected by the popular votes cast within each individual state senatorial district, who shall then elect all statewide office holders.

Imagine the sheer rage of the media/DNC if Red States implement that, especially if they do it for Federal elections. They'd never win another state-wide election ever again; Tarrant and Harris counties could stuff 100 million ballots and they'd still lose. Best part is, they set the precedence for changing how elections work with their stupid National Popular Vote Compact (which is unconstitutional because it is an interstate compact, not because of how the electors are told to vote).