Chainsaw Man - Peak Fiction in the making

Souji Tendou said:
When The Makima Is Sus!
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My favorite part is that all the Makima cosplay on Twitter when they find out.....*BANG*

Also the show has a really smart part of the intro where Makima was feeding Denji a snail infected with a parasite, making it vulnerable to be eaten by predators. A perfect metaphor for their dynamic. (Though the intro is brilliant in its entirety). The scene with Power and Makima is also better illustrated in the anime with its foreshadowing, as Power's panic is much higher than her carefree attitude dictates. And when they find out Makima doesn't give a singular fuck about Denji and never did.

Or what is going to happen to Aki.

"HAHA, YOUR DEATH WILL BE HILARIOUS. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT."

Shit is going to get so much worse and it's hysterical to me. This fan base is already soft, it's going to fucking combust.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
My favorite part is that all the Makima cosplay on Twitter when they find out.....*BANG*

Also the show has a really smart part of the intro where Makima was feeding Denji a snail infected with a parasite, making it vulnerable to be eaten by predators. A perfect metaphor for their dynamic. (Though the intro is brilliant in its entirety). The scene with Power and Makima is also better illustrated in the anime with its foreshadowing, as Power's panic is much higher than her carefree attitude dictates. And when they find out Makima doesn't give a singular fuck about Denji and never did.

Or what is going to happen to Aki.

"HAHA, YOUR DEATH WILL BE HILARIOUS. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT."

Shit is going to get so much worse and it's hysterical to me. This fan base is already soft, it's going to fucking combust.
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oh yeah
the secondaries are going to panic
 
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The secondary character purge will be glorious, and it happens thrice. A lot of reaction videos are gonna come up.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
The secondary character purge will be glorious, and it happens thrice. A lot of reaction videos are gonna come up.
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Snake/blade purge

Darkness/Doll purge

Control purge

Chainsaw purge if you count the hybrid devils Control brings back

So 3-4 secondary character purges.
 
Literally three characters survive Part 1, four if you count the last chapter character.
 
In general anime trying to hype their plot when manga readers are 6+months ahead is always funny.
In the case of this show it's far funnier given the kill count.
 
SteelPlatedHeart said:
Literally three characters survive Part 1, four if you count the last chapter character.
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We also can't forget the Hybirds/weapon humans like Reze and Quanxi. Though they were cut by Chainsaw Man, its shown multiple times that even full on decapitation is nothing more than minor annoyance for hybrids due to their healing factor, and they are functionally immortal. Quanxi was decapitated twice then brought back both times.

Chilson said:
Chainsaw purge if you count the hybrid devils Control brings back
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Technically not a purge since none of the characters "killed" are confirmed to be permanently dead.
 
The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Technically not a purge since none of the characters "killed" are confirmed to be permanently dead.
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They were only brought back by the control devil's will, or outright brought under her control, rather than through some inherent ability hybrids possess.

Sure this could be retconned, but that seems very unlikely at this point. More likely the devils have gone back through the cycle of death and rebirth while the humans who made up the hybrid are now dead for real this time.
 
Chilson said:
They were only brought back by the control devil's will, or outright brought under her control, rather than through some inherent ability hybrids possess.

Sure this could be retconned, but that seems very unlikely at this point. More likely the devils have gone back through the cycle of death and rebirth while the humans who made up the hybrid are now dead for real this time.
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No, hybrids can explicitly regenerate from anything, as long as their devil core and trigger are intact. Quanxi outright demonstrated this when the Darkness devil beheaded her the first time, and she was revived simply by activating her devil trigger. Denji himself shows this when he was first revived after being hacked to pieces, and has continued to demonstrate it since then. They don't even need blood to do so; someone just needs to activate their trigger, as long as they have one drop of blood in them. There is ambiguity in that Control can animate corpses to do her bidding as easily as she can control the living, leaving the door open to whether they were dead or alive, but the ambiguity is there. Keep in mind, the manga has revealed nothing about the fate of the weapons humans since Part I ended.

Also, the devils that make up the weapons humans have already been retgoned by Chainsaw devil. For whatever reason, the weapons humans are immune to being erased from existence by him even after he eliminated their concepts. They are walking paradoxes, as they continue to exist despite their devils having been eliminated by Chainsaw man. So its very up in the air (though probably unlikely) whether they would enter the normal cycle of reincarnation if their human forms did die, since their devils flat out just no longer exist.
 
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Chilson said:
They were only brought back by the control devil's will, or outright brought under her control, rather than through some inherent ability hybrids possess.

Sure this could be retconned, but that seems very unlikely at this point. More likely the devils have gone back through the cycle of death and rebirth while the humans who made up the hybrid are now dead for real this time.
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
No, hybrids can explicitly regenerate from anything, as long as their devil core and trigger are intact. Quanxi outright demonstrated this when the Darkness devil beheaded her the first time, and she was revived simply by activating her devil trigger. Denji himself shows this when he was first revived after being hacked to pieces, and has continued to demonstrate it since then. They don't even need blood to do so; someone just needs to activate their trigger, as long as they have one drop of blood in them. There is ambiguity in that Control can animate corpses to do her bidding as easily as she can control the living, leaving the door open to whether they were dead or alive, but the ambiguity is there. Keep in mind, the manga has revealed nothing about the fate of the weapons humans since Part I ended.

Also, the devils that make up the weapons humans have already been retgoned by Chainsaw devil. For whatever reason, the weapons humans are immune to being erased from existence by him even after he eliminated their concepts. They are walking paradoxes, as they continue to exist despite their devils having been eliminated by Chainsaw man. So its very up in the air (though probably unlikely) whether they would enter the normal cycle of reincarnation if their human forms did die, since their devils flat out just no longer exist.
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So I've gleaned this about Makima or the 'Control' Devil. Basically, it seems like she can completely subsume people's will. Especially people who die and she seems to naturally attract 'loyalty'. In fact, its clear Power knows exactly who Makima is from the beginning and is terrified to defy her (Either through fear of being subsumed or just how powerful Makima herself is). The same thing with Denji himself to an extent. The enjoyment and destruction of personalities and breaking people's wills down.

In all honesty, it should be a dead giveaway that Makima is something way more than she seems right from the beginning, because Power isn't afraid of any human, no matter how powerful (Aki or later on his trainer), but is absolutely PETRIFIED by Makima and there's really no reason she should be, as Makima is presented pretty much as a high level pencil pusher at that point. On that note, its fucking BATSHIT CRAZY that a manga called fucking 'Chainsaw Man' has better and more subtle foreshadowing than 2022 Hollywood.

Also, Chainsaw Man has to literally eat them to destroy concepts. Not merely kill them. And technically Chainsaw doesn't eat Makima, Denji does, which is why control wasn't eradicated. If it even could be, as its implied Control can understand, if only briefly, what concepts have been deleted.

I don't think she can control the dead, but basically anyone less powerful than her can be subsumed by her it seems as they're basically puppets of her will at that point. We can surmise that Chainsaw is stronger than her bonds of control, maybe because she never really saw Denji or even understood him. Its hard to say, as there's still a lot to go as the manga is still going on.

But I do look forward to the absolute implosion of the fanbase once its pretty clear anyone and everyone can die. Because if people are reeing about Kobeni and Makima being a groomer fucking lol at the future.
 
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Secret Asshole said:
Also, Chainsaw Man has to literally eat them to destroy concepts. Not merely kill them. And technically Chainsaw doesn't eat Makima, Denji does, which is why control wasn't eradicated. If it even could be, as its implied Control can understand, if only briefly, what concepts have been deleted.

I don't think she can control the dead, but basically anyone less powerful than her can be subsumed by her it seems as they're basically puppets of her will at that point. We can surmise that Chainsaw is stronger than her bonds of control, maybe because she never really saw Denji or even understood him. Its hard to say, as there's still a lot to go as the manga is still going on.
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No, its explicitly revealed that Makima can in fact control the dead as well as the living. Its just that Chainsaw Man is different (very much so since he is able to go toe to toe with the Four Horsemen at all and utterly annihilate the very concept of something he's eaten).

It's also explicit that Chainsaw man has to eat concepts to destroy them utterly, and even eating part of them is enough to permanently weaken a concept (the reason why the world of Chainsaw Man hasn't had a war since WWI, even a WWII, is because Chainsaw Man ate part of the War Demon, thus permanently weakening that concept). However, its also been revealed that Chainsaw man explicitly ate the concepts the Weapons Humans represent, yet they, paradoxically, still exist despite their very demons having been erased from existence. They are the only beings in the world for which this has been revealed and are seemingly unique in this fashion. Interestingly, the very name for the Weapons Humans/Hybrids has been permanently lost because Denji ate the demon that even represented the concept, thus, it lost its name forever. The current names are just place holders because nobody knows what to call them.

Minor prediction on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was demon that represented fear of demons, and Chainsaw Man eating that would erase the very concept of demons from existence.

Edit: spelling
 
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