Money Barb Sued by Discover Bank

[bradsternum]

Chris should start his own youtube channel.

"The Adventures of New Christine"

No.

The Old Adventures of New Christine.

 

[HumanBeanbag]

Where does the Etsy store fit in re: Chris and employment?

At a very basic level, he is able to take orders and eventually fulfil them.

If he didn't want to do any work then surely he wouldn't have the Etsy store running?

 

[Handsome Pete]

Where does the Etsy store fit in re: Chris and employment?

At a very basic level, he is able to take orders and eventually fulfil them.

If he didn't want to do any work then surely he wouldn't have the Etsy store running?

Chris has a child's view of work. Remember when you were 5 years old and you thought working in a toy store would be the best job ever because you'd spend all day surrounded by toys? Why, it would barely even feel like work! And obviously, you would love and endorse all of the store's terrific products!

In reality, working at a toy store is a pretty standard retail employment experience. But Chris doesn't know this.

Chris essentially works in a Sonichu store, and he's perfectly happy to do so as long as it doesn't interfere with his 5-year-old's understanding of work.

 

[Katolate]

No.

The Old Adventures of New Christine.

The (still) Uncut Adventures of Christine Chandler.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

Where does the Etsy store fit in re: Chris and employment?

At a very basic level, he is able to take orders and eventually fulfil them.

If he didn't want to do any work then surely he wouldn't have the Etsy store running?

I think the Etsy shop highlights his attitude about work. He likes making Amiibos but dislikes drawing, so even though his sales and profits are more from drawings than Amiibos, he chooses to keep pushing the Amiibos.

Chris also has issues with fulfilling orders on time because he chooses to prioritize spending money on toys for himself, so when he runs low on money and can't afford to make an order, he just waits until his tugboat arrives. His customers apparently don't complain enough for him to care about the delays.

Chris doesn't see the inherent value or long-term benefits of having a good work ethic. If he got a job, he would get fired quickly if his supervisor went easy on him, because he would just default to being lazy. Unfortunately, he's set himself up so that he'll only be productive if he's pressured to do it by his supervisor, which would give him "stress."

 

[Trilby]

I think the Etsy shop highlights his attitude about work. He likes making Amiibos but dislikes drawing, so even though his sales and profits are more from drawings than Amiibos, he chooses to keep pushing the Amiibos.

Doesn't surprise me (just look at it)!

Chris also has issues with fulfilling orders on time because he chooses to prioritize spending money on toys for himself, so when he runs low on money and can't afford to make an order, he just waits until his tugboat arrives. His customers apparently don't complain enough for him to care about the delays.

They should. That's your money he's fooling around with.

Chris doesn't see the inherent value or long-term benefits of having a good work ethic. If he got a job, he would get fired quickly if his supervisor went easy on him, because he would just default to being lazy. Unfortunately, he's set himself up so that he'll only be productive if he's pressured to do it by his supervisor, which would give him "stress."

They certainly wouldn't take his crap.[/QUOTE]

 

[lurkf9217]

Edit: does t.r.a.n.s. really autofilter to "tranny"? Is that really called for?

This place is proof that the Internet was a goddamn mistake.

 

[DragoonSierra]

Indeed, Chris doesn't want to work.

But you vastly overestimate Chris' stubbornness. Chris is a giant coward who can't handle the tiniest bit of discomfort. For most things, Chris folds very easily. You can bully Chris into almost anything.

I think the Etsy shop highlights his attitude about work. He likes making Amiibos but dislikes drawing, so even though his sales and profits are more from drawings than Amiibos, he chooses to keep pushing the Amiibos.

Chris also has issues with fulfilling orders on time because he chooses to prioritize spending money on toys for himself, so when he runs low on money and can't afford to make an order, he just waits until his tugboat arrives. His customers apparently don't complain enough for him to care about the delays.

Chris doesn't see the inherent value or long-term benefits of having a good work ethic. If he got a job, he would get fired quickly if his supervisor went easy on him, because he would just default to being lazy. Unfortunately, he's set himself up so that he'll only be productive if he's pressured to do it by his supervisor, which would give him "stress."

@Marvin has said before the only reason he doesnt fill Etsy orders in a timely manner is because no one lights a fire under his ass. Hes super salty that he has to pay bills but he will do it and if he needs a job to do so he will do it as well. Its all about how much pressure he feels to do so.

 

[Trilby]

This place is proof that the Internet was a goddamn mistake.

Too bad my 18 year old self couldn't have predicted that.

 

[GV 998]

I think the Etsy shop highlights his attitude about work. He likes making Amiibos but dislikes drawing, so even though his sales and profits are more from drawings than Amiibos, he chooses to keep pushing the Amiibos.

The one thing that I don't get is that drawing is much easier than making those amiibos (as shitty as they are, they still take more time than drawing a picture) But he wants to take the more difficult route

I mean I suppose it's just because he loves Amiibos so much that it just doesn't feel like work to him, but he should AT LEAST be smart enough to know that he would maximize his profits by selling drawings. Paper and crayons cost way less than amiibos, clay, and paints

 

[Trilby]

The one thing that I don't get is that drawing is much easier than making those amiibos (as shitty as they are, they still take more time than drawing a picture) But he wants to take the more difficult route

If you see how he holds a pen, you'll understand why he doesn't take the easy route.

I mean I suppose it's just because he loves Amiibos so much that it just doesn't feel like work to him, but he should AT LEAST be smart enough to know that he would maximize his profits by selling drawings. Paper and crayons cost way less than amiibos, clay, and paints

True, but perhaps he like the idea he's 'making' these guys the way he wants them to be.

 

[Marvin]

The one thing that I don't get is that drawing is much easier than making those amiibos (as shitty as they are, they still take more time than drawing a picture) But he wants to take the more difficult route

I mean I suppose it's just because he loves Amiibos so much that it just doesn't feel like work to him, but he should AT LEAST be smart enough to know that he would maximize his profits by selling drawings. Paper and crayons cost way less than amiibos, clay, and paints

Chris thinks everyone should love Sonichu as much as he loves Sonichu. And Chris feels like Sonichu deserves to be a big fancy cartoon franchise with injection molded plastic figurines. The amiibos let him play pretend that Sonichu is that big cartoon franchise. When people don't buy the amiibos, Chris is very confused.

Like, Sonichu is awesome! Why aren't the amiibos just flying off the shelves?

Profits aren't Chris' primary motivation. Or rather, he feels like he deserves to get the huge profits and simultaneously get to dictate what the market is buying. Chris is demanding to be paid handsomly for the privilege of playing with toys. He's very unhappy when these demands aren't met. But he's not in a bad enough financial situation to make him change his strategy. He's still holding out hope that the amiibos will be popular.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

The one thing that I don't get is that drawing is much easier than making those amiibos (as shitty as they are, they still take more time than drawing a picture) But he wants to take the more difficult route

I mean I suppose it's just because he loves Amiibos so much that it just doesn't feel like work to him, but he should AT LEAST be smart enough to know that he would maximize his profits by selling drawings. Paper and crayons cost way less than amiibos, clay, and paints

Drawing requires some creativity (even if it is Sonichu). One of the reasons he likes making Amiibos is because he gets to make Sonichu toys with minimal creativity, since most of the work is in the assembly.

The reason I have been unable to draw pages as quick, is due to a number of life and personal reasons. Among which, while I DID have a plan for the routine of drawing pages nearly every other week initially in between weeks of working on medallions and all that, I have been unable to get that routine successfully habitual and set. The reasons are between my Emotions and Mood; I have to be in the right mind set in order to draw and create. Between my ADD, from the bleeding autism, and the stresses of life, including finances and keeping the household above water with the sales and keeping up with the orders, plus the publisher problem last December having weighed me down not helping either, not to mention my Fickle Internal Clock changing my sleep schedule from being a Day Person into a Night Person, and back and forth over and again... It gets frustrating to me. And that is why I needed the time to recover.

I am most able to create and issue the voucher most quickly, and hardly the creativity is required for that as well.

 

[SOINCHU]

Chris thinks everyone should love Sonichu as much as he loves Sonichu. And Chris feels like Sonichu deserves to be a big fancy cartoon franchise with injection molded plastic figurines. The amiibos let him play pretend that Sonichu is that big cartoon franchise. When people don't buy the amiibos, Chris is very confused.

Like, Sonichu is awesome! Why aren't the amiibos just flying off the shelves?

Profits aren't Chris' primary motivation. Or rather, he feels like he deserves to get the huge profits and simultaneously get to dictate what the market is buying. Chris is demanding to be paid handsomly for the privilege of playing with toys. He's very unhappy when these demands aren't met. But he's not in a bad enough financial situation to make him change his strategy. He's still holding out hope that the amiibos will be popular.

Does Chris still think that because Sonichu has all the stereotypical "good guy" qualities that by default people should like him? I get the feeling Chris thinks being well liked is a check list. Like in his mind Sonichu:

1. He's fast
2. He's 'cool'
3. He beats up 'bullies'
4. Has a girlfriend/wife that he dotes on

and finally I wonder if Chris doesn't also think he should be getting both the Sonic and Pokemon fans beating down his door because Sonichu is both!

I realize this is largely an autism thing and thinking of things in terms of black and white lists rather than subjectively but still. You'd think after 15 fucking years he'd figure out that maybe Sonichu isn't going anywhere.

 

[Marvin]

Does Chris still think that because Sonichu has all the stereotypical "good guy" qualities that by default people should like him? I get the feeling Chris thinks being well liked is a check list. Like in his mind Sonichu:

1. He's fast
2. He's 'cool'
3. He beats up 'bullies'
4. Has a girlfriend/wife that he dotes on

and finally I wonder if Chris doesn't also think he should be getting both the Sonic and Pokemon fans beating down his door because Sonichu is both!

I realize this is largely an autism thing and thinking of things in terms of black and white lists rather than subjectively but still. You'd think after 15 fucking years he'd figure out that maybe Sonichu isn't going anywhere.

The way I'd describe it, I think Chris "feels" things way more stronger than he "thinks" things.

It's kind of like his magical thinking, except he thinks that the judiciary should respond in kind. If there's any sort of complicated rules to a system, Chris says "fuck it", and reverts to his magical thinking.

So law sounds very complicated, and there's a lot of subjective feelings involved in rulings. So Chris thinks he should be able to influence it magically because he's the protagonist in the story.

Chris "feels" right, so he should be right. I'm sure lots of lolcows think this way, but with Chris, he's genuinely shocked every time this doesn't work out. Like, I'd just love to hang out with Chris whenever his beliefs are shattered, because it's so fucking genuine with Chris. It blows his mind.

However, he does learn reality has rules. He just learns it super slowly. And if there's the tiniest hint that his bizarre beliefs might, maybe, maybe might be true, he'll latch onto that.

So I believe Chris is capable of learning that Sonichu is bullshit. Except the occasional purchase recharges his spirits, and his tugboat sustains him, so the retard cycle keeps continuing. I've talked to Chris before, and he thinks so very slowly. It's kind of fun, because you can present Chris with a slightly complicated argument, and then he'll spend 45 seconds churning through it. He's dumb as shit.

 

[AnOminous]

I am with you 100% for a). c) is valid, although I think the number of workplaces where Chris would be a real hazard is fairly small.

Anything involving food would put anyone eating that food at significant risk.

Would you eat anywhere Chris worked? I wouldn't.

So anywhere that employed him would be at real risk of losing lots of customers and/or a food poisoning scandal.

Outside of food service, who would hire him? He'd cancel out the efforts of whatever tard wrangler they had to pay to constantly beat him to keep him from falling asleep or wandering off or otherwise failing to do his job. So you'd have to pay two people to get no work done.

 

[Sarcastic Username]

There are people much more tarded than Chris working food service. It's not like he'd be in the back masturbating into the fryolator.

 

[Katolate]

Chris would use a fast food's fridge to store his "seed" and then would spend the whole shift eating the place's food, browsing the net on his phone, taking endless bathroom breaks or just sitting there doing nothing because "stress" or whataver new excuse he feels like using to pin the blame on his coworkers.

 

[timtommy]

Chris got used to get his free money every month for food, Legos and games while everyone else takes care of him.

I don't see him ever willing to break that cozy routine no matter how deep in debt he is or how loud someone tells him to move and start working.

Remember, this is the same Chris who "needed" several days to recover from the stress of shoveling show from his front yard, so i don't see him at all being willing to do any grunt work like stocking shelves or cleaning floors, etc.

I generally agree with this. I only say it could happen in the sense that a lot of things can happen given enough time.

In the classic Chris days, would you have predicted the transgender phase? It's hard to imagine that many would. Sure you can point to various gender issues he had, but that is applying a lot of hindsight. This was not where people thought he was going with it.

If he does end up working, we could probably point to some stuff now, like his etsy business, as the beginning of an evolution towards wanting more money than the tugboat gives him and being willing to do something for it. Or if he doesn't end up working, we can see his etsy business as a continuation of him avoiding the workforce at all costs.

Basically, Chris 10 years from now is a complete wild card because the timeframe is so long. We know he is going to be an awkward weirdo, but within that, there is a lot of unpredicatability.

 

[Lipitor]

Anything involving food would put anyone eating that food at significant risk.

Would you eat anywhere Chris worked? I wouldn't.

So anywhere that employed him would be at real risk of losing lots of customers and/or a food poisoning scandal.

Outside of food service, who would hire him? He'd cancel out the efforts of whatever tard wrangler they had to pay to constantly beat him to keep him from falling asleep or wandering off or otherwise failing to do his job. So you'd have to pay two people to get no work done.

I wouldn't put chris in any job where he has to interact with customers or prepare food (cuz let's be honest that's outside his skill set). But to say he's completely incapable of any job is a bit of a stretch for me. I think he's mentally capable of doing something like overnight restocking in a grocery store or sweeping up popcorn in a movie theater. He'd probably suck for the first 2 months and try to cut corners, but once it became routine for him he'd be able to handle it. Is he emotionally mature enough for this? Maybe not right now, but that's gotta be a result of being completely enabled his entire adult life. I think getting a job meant for a 14 year old would be way better emotionally for him, than giving him a check every month to go spend on toys, meanwhile getting banned from a store every 6 months by causing a scene, because he doesn't think the rules of society apply to him.

I'm not saying he could get a job he wants, but tough shit, a lot of people don't. I just think had he been doing anything at all the last 10 years he'd be in a much better place. And at the very least I think we're seeing the reality of the consequences of Chris not working. Barb and presumably him (depending on how you see it) could really use the income of chris working a part-time job.