US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[The Last Stand]

If the people are not allowed to choose who they can elect then you get the EU in America. Is that really the future you want?

Reality: our candidates are so bad, our system is so corrupt and incompetent, a proposed solution is a manic rapper whose claim to politics is praising a literal genocidal fascist and marrying a plastic woman.

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Any idiot can run and people will rally instead of solving problems

Is "solving problems" meant to be a euphemism? Because otherwise I don't get why people keep saying this with the current system we live under.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

And that's the problem with our current political system. Any idiot can run and people will rally instead of solving problems. And I had this same thought when Trump won 2016.

also running a carpetbagging gungrabbing childdragging tv creep like Oz might not be a super smooth move too

 

[AnotherPleb]

Reality: our candidates are so bad, our system is so corrupt and incompetent, a proposed solution is a manic rapper whose claim to politics is praising a literal genocidal fascist and marrying a plastic woman.

The people that came to america did so to get away from being told they are not allowed any say in choosing their rulers. The reason they do the Gerrymandering and rigging is because politicians know how badly officially telling America that they no longer are allowed any choice in who rules them would go.
Never mind any coy articles after the last election. Telling Americans they no longer live in a democracy (or constitutional republic, if you want to split dick hairs) is something that can get both sides pissed.

 

[There'll be another time]

And that's the problem with our current political system. Any idiot can run and people will rally instead of solving problems. And I had this same thought when Trump won 2016.

Such is the tragedy of democracy, fren. Who defines who is competent enough to solve problems and how do you prevent such from just becoming a oligarchy governed by the college educated rich fucks off in their ivory towers?

A numeritude of things led to where we are now, and things in general are bad. Much of the big unlying problems that were put off on the past are coming home to roost now, causing all sorts of crisis. Inequality is significantly higher than at any point in recent history and the response in democratic systems is usually the rise of the bombastic strongman that rallies people with force of personality moreso than competence.

The world in general is just reaching a point where many of the "kick-the-can-down-the-road" policies have reached the end of the road, and we have to live through their consequences, unfortunately.

But I do ultimately believe things will get better in the coming decades. People are naturally good and evil structures are often irrational and to self serving to endure for long.

 

[George Lucas]

What could it be replaced with exactly?

A party focused on putting political crooks in prison. A literal drain-the-swamp party of outsiders. It has to be built from the ground up to oust Republicans in red states without falling to Dems. The party platform is literally to fire government workers, close departments, and put people in jail.

 

[JosephStalin]

I like these.

 

[Calvin Coolidge]

I really, really want to see a CSPAN clip of Kanye calling Schumer a kike to his face.

Stop! I can only get so erect!

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Arizona is going to certify its fraudulent election results.

Running away to red states won't solve anything at this point.

Apparently in Arizona you can't file Lawsuits until the results are certified.

Because Arizona is run by retards.

 

[The Last Stand]

Apparently in Arizona you can't file Lawsuits until the results are certified.

Because Arizona apparently is run by retards.

All at the taxpayers' expense. I have an idea for protest: stop paying taxes. If a whole state does that, it'll say something.

 

[Breadbassket]

A party focused on putting political crooks in prison. A literal drain-the-swamp party of outsiders. It has to be built from the ground up to oust Republicans in red states without falling to Dems. The party platform is literally to fire government workers, close departments, and put people in jail.

While I don't necessarily agree with ideals like that, realistically it would be very hard to have any success by starting another party. Bipartisan efforts by Republicans and Democrats on the state level have put major roadblocks in the way of potential opponents such as requiring candidates outside of the two party system to need tons of signatures instead of just showing up on the ballot automatically like them. If it did work out I could see issues of potentially splitting the vote for Republicans and this new Populist party when it comes time for elections. A coalition could be on the table but it would depend how much the two entities would be willing to work together.

Entryism on the other hand, where people with more populist stances join the Republican Party could be an alternative. I mean its how socialists became Democrats. However on that note we have seen how well that has gone since Trump was elected on the Republican side of things. I am not sure if senior Republican leadership hates both Trump and Populism, or just one, either way though they need to realize their rivals are playing for keeps now more then ever and are willing to resort to anything to achieve their goals. Even if they really are nothing more then worms lacking in principles as some say, they should know that conceding on issues their voting base cares about may lead to their supporters looking elsewhere for guidance on where the country should go which would deprive them of the money they are claimed to care about so much.

To me, it appears ultimately easier to infiltrate the castle that is the American Two-party system and change it from within, rather then besiege it from the outside.

 

[Potatoherder]

I am not sure if senior Republican leadership hates both Trump and Populism, or just one, either way though they need to realize their rivals are playing for keeps now more then ever and are willing to resort to anything to achieve their goals.

They hate the republican voters. They have no rivals, only partners in the managed decline.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

All the regular posters in this thread are screaming at each other and I'll be damned if I understand why. Plenty of melodrama in the world already, don't see the need to grow your own.

Fundamentally, most of the American Right has been conditioned to be defeatist in nature and if they can't achieve the "perfect candidate" or "total victory" they'll start giving up, downing entire bottles of black pills, and start slitting their wrists performatively. This is deliberate and how the establishment and neo-con snakes stay in power in the party. Instead of demanding the failed leadership fall on their swords and reforming the party, there's weeping and gnashing of teeth and massive astroturfing to steer people back to the establishment's preferred path.

The effective parts of the American Right were exiled from polite conversation by William F Buckley, Jr, the NRO, and the Neo-Con children of former Trotskyites.

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

Apparently in Arizona you can't file Lawsuits until the results are certified.

Because Arizona is run by retards.

I already saw that movie 2 years ago
you cant file lawsuit after the results are certified either

 

[pwnest injun]

I actually agree on this one. The DNC has gone too far too often and now there is irrefutable proof of egregious rights violations that likely changed the results of an election.

There is blood in the water and I guarantee sharks are incoming.

The DNC is a corporation. One corporation telling another to do something isn't a violation of 1A. There *are* plenty of examples of government agents officialy telling Twitter to do something censorious though, which is.

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People have started shooting power substations with predictable consequences, just like the conspiracy theorists said would happen

I can't find where I heard it, but I've come across line workers talking about how the US is currently running out of power transformers. Basically, they keep a stockpile of them on hand at all times, typically, but that stockpile hasn't been replenished for over two years and is starting to dwindle to nothing locally and nationally. I guess the Hill covered it here: https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-...utilities-facing-transformer-shortage-crisis/

 

[Puff]

Your guess is as good as mine. Kemp and Raffensperger did jack shit to help stop the steal in 2020, but Kemp handily whupped Stacey Abrams this year in the gubernatorial after Abrams raised so many legalese complaints about the state implementing stronger Voter ID rules. The Warnock/Walker runoff could very well go in either direction.

RNC has hung walker out to dry. I'd put money on Warnock. Walker's bad speeches are making internal republican rounds btw. Feels pretty set up.

 

[Eggplant Wizard]

For the benefit of those not familiar with the terminology, "stochastic" means randomly distributed/generated. It's basically noise rather than signal. "Stochastic resonance" is the addition of a noise signal to a weak waveform whose peaks are below the threshold for detection to cause the combined signal to cross the threshold in a manner that approximates the original waveform. The connection to speech as noise and the waveform as violence is tenuous to say the least.

So "stochastic terrorism from the right" is when the amount of terrorism from the right is so low it's undectable, so the Feds and the Left have to commit terrorist acts in their name in order to cause enough domestic terrorist acts to register?

To me it just seems like a term used in a roundabout way to accuse people of thought crimes.

It is a smart sounding word pairing that is used to make anything seem like a terror attack when it involves normal occurrences of people being tired of the current bullshit of the year.

Heaven Smile from Killer7 were stochastic terrorists because of the “Terror for the sake of terror.” motto. SJWs are trying to pin average conservative protestors as people that want to randomly bomb your house just so you can be afraid when they have a small march down he road.

 

[George Lucas]

While I don't necessarily agree with ideals like that, realistically it would be very hard to have any success by starting another party. Bipartisan efforts by Republicans and Democrats on the state level have put major roadblocks in the way of potential opponents such as requiring candidates outside of the two party system to need tons of signatures instead of just showing up on the ballot automatically like them. If it did work out I could see issues of potentially splitting the vote for Republicans and this new Populist party when it comes time for elections. A coalition could be on the table but it would depend how much the two entities would be willing to work together.

Entryism on the other hand, where people with more populist stances join the Republican Party could be an alternative. I mean its how socialists became Democrats. However on that note we have seen how well that has gone since Trump was elected on the Republican side of things. I am not sure if senior Republican leadership hates both Trump and Populism, or just one, either way though they need to realize their rivals are playing for keeps now more then ever and are willing to resort to anything to achieve their goals. Even if they really are nothing more then worms lacking in principles as some say, they should know that conceding on issues their voting base cares about may lead to their supporters looking elsewhere for guidance on where the country should go which would deprive them of the money they are claimed to care about so much.

To me, it appears ultimately easier to infiltrate the castle that is the American Two-party system and change it from within, rather then besiege it from the outside.

What do you think MAGA is? Trump has been trying to get MAGA candidates into the Republican party the results have been very mixed, and the longest this goes on, the more rigged the barrier to entry gets.

That’s why I’m advocating for getting rid of the entry process as a whole. Skip the middle man. Start at the local level. Get Chambers of Commerce, real estate groups, and HOAs shut down and banned. Eliminate pensions, bonuses, and unions in local governments and ban them forever. Eliminate bureaucratic roles in local government. Make burdens like local sales taxes illegal. The small fights are doable and send a powerful message. It’s also not that hard to win a rep seat with pure grassroots effort.

 

[pwnest injun]

It's weird that people are acting like stuff Trump does now is going to matter by the time the 2024 elections come around. So much insane shit has been happening every month that there's no way that anyone will be talking about a dinner or a tweet or whatever the outrage of the day is by the time that primaries come around.

 

[MrJokerRager]

RNC has hung walker out to dry. I'd put money on Warnock. Walker's bad speeches are making internal republican rounds btw. Feels pretty set up.

So all these boomer elites that grew up with the best of America in the 1950s and 1960s.

All these boomer lib and boomer con elites decided to be authoritarian amoral nigger lovers wanting to emulate a gayer version of the USSR.