What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[Flan Handler]

A lazy reply:

This is mostly done through predictive programming (glowie ops) and "drills" or "exercises" or "training models" put on by NGOs.

The former is something that I'd wager almost every single person in this thread willfully exposes themselves to (without understanding it) on a daily basis. This would be your TV shows, movies, music, etc. You have been primed for just about every last global event or catastrophe that has gone on (and is about to be going on) well in advance, and you probably shrugged it off as coincidence (if you thought about it at all, of course). Coincidence does not exist, but it sure is a handy way to bury one's head in the sand.

The latter would be something like the "planes flying into buildings" exercises sponsored by the govt. that went on prior to 9-11. There were multiple exercises carried out prior to the wu flu farce (and every. single. last. fucking time they tried it prior to that with shit like swine/avian flu) which demonstrated exactly what was going to happen to the plebs. Both of these topics have a plethora of examples out there for those willing to dig.

Regardless of methodology employed, part of the goal is to "notify" the plebs in order to get implied consent. This remains consistent across several texts and whistleblower testimonies. I won't speculate on the "why" behind it, but it's definitely a thing.

I heard someone refer to the X-Files as a “grimoire” for this reason.

 

[Nuclear Poisoning]

If you go billions of years ago, the first life on earth could be a completely created by alien beings. Heck, we could be what's left of a gray goo scenario, where the first cells were nanobots that malfunctioned to eat their own, and it all went down from there...

All currently known living beings from this planet share the same basic gene expression mechanism, which supposedly originated from spontaneous amino acid and nucleotide formation, as hypothesized by Miller and Urey with their seminal 1952-53 experiments. What I have trouble believing, though, is that no parallel life forms ever originated other than what we know. I'm no molecular geneticist, but you mean to tell me that the molecules of DNA, RNA and 20 particular amino acids are the only possible molecular combination that can give rise to self-replication? Why only those 20 amino acids? Why only the L-isomers? There are many other macromolecules that can be generated with the existing quantities of C, N, O and H. In those 1-2 billion years before DNA/RNA/Protein based life-forms reached a critical mass, no other spontaneous generation events took place? Or they did, but they all went extinct? Leaving no trace at all? Even the most isolated, extremophile prokaryotes that have been discovered replicate with the same DNA/RNA/20 Amino acids mechanism.

I have a different hypothesis. The Miller and other similar experiments are correct, but they showed that other macromolecules than the ones known to be used by life on Earth originated. And indeed the primordial Earth saw the rise of many different replicating mechanisms, using different molecules than ours. However, some external, artificial force has been tampering with the due natural process and suppressed all those other mechanisms, erasing all traces of them, leaving DNA to reign supreme. For what? I don't know. Maybe the double helix shape reminds some interdimensional being of its favourite sex toy and they get off at the idea of all living beings of a planet containing millions of microscopic copies of their drillo-dildo.

Spoiler

Yeah I'm just taking the "mysterious entity erased all trace of civilization X" to its logical extreme, eat me.

 

[BiggerChungus]

While I don't think any race is inherently superior or inferior to one another, I believe cultures can be, and I believe that the replacement of white people and Western European culture is a clear and demonstrably conscious effort being undertaken across the West, largely carried out by Caucasian elites in an effort to divide and spread mistrust and hatred, as well as to allow more primitive, easily-malleable cultures to overtake what was once predominantly traditionalist and Christian. White people and European culture in general are dying out, and it's an artificial death to make way for ignorant or violent cultures to take their place, which in turn will create social strife and target peoples of all races to make them easier to physically, spiritually, and psychologically dominate. The concept of any inherent racial superiority is a misdirecting con to take away from the real issue, that is replacement of culture and an effort to sow racial division.

If that "Prison Planet" stuff were true, it would make real life very "grimdark", kind of like the WH40K world were unprotected souls get attacked and consumed by demons in The Warp (hyperspace and also an afterlife in WH40K).

I think it's one of those "schizo false flags" mentioned here before. I just can't buy it as being true, though I don't have any conclusive evidence why. I have faith, that's one thing, but I think too that if it were true, what's the point of it? If we're actually enslaved by some omnipotent shapeshifting alien lizard vampires, and our souls are controlled by them, and it's all basically an illusion, what is the point of believing in it? I feel like it's a strangely defeatist theory, one that seems like the same folly of extreme fatalism where, if nothing matters and we should all just die, why haven't the people espousing this killed themselves? Clearly there's a level of disbelief in their own idea, or an unwillingness to fully believe it. Equally I feel that even if it were true, it'd be better to believe otherwise. You run the risk of being wrong, but what does being wrong get you? The outcome is the same either way.

 

[Chromeo]

However, some external, artificial force has been tampering with the due natural process and suppressed all those other mechanisms, erasing all traces of them, leaving DNA to reign supreme. For what? I don't know.

Not to invoke the God of The Gaps line of thinking, but that description makes me think of God. When people talk about stuff like this, unknown forces or beings having to do with how man developed, it sounds (to me) like a de-normalized description of intelligent design. It's like when Giorgio Tsoukalos, the guy from Ancient Aliens, had mentioned somewhere how he read the bible and it only made sense to him when he thought of God and the angels as aliens, but in the opposite direction. I'm not saying this to be like "so let's all go to church for Christmas service today!" or anything, but because past a certain point the "aliens from the stars" theories sound like sci-fi remixes of "dieties from the heavens" theories.

 

[Nuclear Poisoning]

Not to invoke the God of The Gaps line of thinking, but that description makes me think of God. When people talk about stuff like this, unknown forces or beings having to do with how man developed, it sounds (to me) like a de-normalized description of intelligent design. It's like when Giorgio Tsoukalos, the guy from Ancient Aliens, had mentioned somewhere how he read the bible and it only made sense to him when he thought of God and the angels as aliens, but in the opposite direction. I'm not saying this to be like "so let's all go to church for Christmas service today!" or anything, but because past a certain point the "aliens from the stars" theories sound like sci-fi remixes of "dieties from the heavens" theories.

There is a misunderstanding when it comes to the relationship between "God" and "science". "Science" is not set out to prove that there is no God, but rather countless people throughout history, and under various degrees of political freedom have been studying the world roughly following a scientific method; as a byproduct of the constant new discoveries, many concepts of God have been disproven on the way (I know some scientists actually did set out to disprove God, for various reasons including as a way to counter the abuse of power being committed by religious authorities).
I'm not going to pretend I understand what's currently going on in the cutting edge parts of various astrophysical and consciousness research departments around the world, but what I'm roughly getting is that with every new discovery those researchers are making, they're never really disproving deities, they just further pushed the limit of things that can be explained without recurring to God - but there is still unknown stuff lurking beyond that limit, where God may or may not have a place. How you then interpret this fact will depend on whether you're some edgy atheist or some religious zealot.

But that's not what I'm talking about, though. I'm not really interested in the mysterious entity itself that caused DNA supremacy. I want to know how that actually happened, and I think there's an explanation that requires a lot of knowledge in molecular biology and evolutionary ecology, and I barely understand basic high school chemistry, so there.

 

[NevskyProspekt]

Fuck, Jim Morrisons showed up with no musical talent, a band that could barely play their instruments (the studio shit was Phil Spectors wrecking crew I believe), who near his untimely death mentioned he still had no desire to learn any instrument. But he showed up with a backpocked of 20 or so hits and a legacy that still persists to this day.

That bit isn't entirely true. Ray Manzerek, the Doors' organist and pianist was classically trained and played in jazz bands for years before joining the group. Robby Krieger, their guitarist, was largely self-taught but received classical flamenco guitar lessons and was quite adept at folk, jazz and blues. Their drummer John Densmore was an orchestral timpanist and marching band drummer, and studied ethnomusicology at California State University under virtuoso cellist Fred Katz. I'm not saying they were all world-class masters of their instruments, but none of them were slouches. If they could barely play their instruments they wouldn't have done any live shows, especially during a time where you didn't have all that playback and sequencing some acts use now.

 

[xoodyak]

All currently known living beings from this planet share the same basic gene expression mechanism, which supposedly originated from spontaneous amino acid and nucleotide formation, as hypothesized by Miller and Urey with their seminal 1952-53 experiments. What I have trouble believing, though, is that no parallel life forms ever originated other than what we know. I'm no molecular geneticist, but you mean to tell me that the molecules of DNA, RNA and 20 particular amino acids are the only possible molecular combination that can give rise to self-replication? Why only those 20 amino acids? Why only the L-isomers? There are many other macromolecules that can be generated with the existing quantities of C, N, O and H. In those 1-2 billion years before DNA/RNA/Protein based life-forms reached a critical mass, no other spontaneous generation events took place? Or they did, but they all went extinct? Leaving no trace at all? Even the most isolated, extremophile prokaryotes that have been discovered replicate with the same DNA/RNA/20 Amino acids mechanism.

The scaffolding is long gone. Once the loop of self-replication was closed for the first time, everything that lead to it but wasn't part of the loop itself had no reason (or manner) to be replicated. The last universal common ancestor happened to use these particular "parameters" (nucleobases, aminoacids, etc), but it's not necessarily pure chance. There might have been other organisms existing at that time, using different chemistry, but they were outcompeted, eg. they might have been utilizing chemical reactions that were energetically unfavorable. One would expect the earliest lifeforms to be very inefficient in many ways, and evolution to then optimize away the inefficiencies, stripping off all parts that are more trouble than they're worth. It is conceivable that one of these organisms happened to make a leap so significant that it wiped out all others.

We do know that DNA was a secondary development. It's very good for long-term storage of genetic data, but by itself it can't do anything. RNA on the other hand can fold into a specific shape based on its sequence of nucleotides and catalyze chemical reactions, just like proteins do.

 

[FatalTater]

I hate to be one of the folks saying that TPTB are using "climate change" to manipulate things around however they want to, but once that thought is in one's head it's hard to ignore stuff that lines up with it.

Here's a tweet from a silly lil' entertainer from 2021. The comments under it are interesting.

https://twitter.com/MrMoeOthman/status/1442888918626549762?cxt=HHwWhICq0fT0lYYoAAAA

Moe on Twitter: "Greta Thunberg, "Climate change activist" (AKA - Gov…

archived 28 Dec 2022 18:45:00 UTC

archive.vn

 

[PhoBingas]

I honestly think the governments in the west are letting fentanyl get into the street drug supply. 10 years ago it was unheard of outside of palliative care, but in the last 5, it's been showing up in everything. I mean its one good way to get rid of junkies, but I do find it super odd how it just sort of sprang up overnight.

 

[xoodyak]

I honestly think the governments in the west are letting fentanyl get into the street drug supply. 10 years ago it was unheard of outside of palliative care, but in the last 5, it's been showing up in everything. I mean its one good way to get rid of junkies, but I do find it super odd how it just sort of sprang up overnight.

Oh the Chinese are exporting it to the US by way of Mexico, it's their revenge for the century of humiliation and opium. Or they just don't give a shit.

 

[Ron Jeremy Stan Account]

Oh the Chinese are exporting it to the US by way of Mexico, it's their revenge for the century of humiliation and opium. Or they just don't give a shit.

I honestly think the governments in the west are letting fentanyl get into the street drug supply. 10 years ago it was unheard of outside of palliative care, but in the last 5, it's been showing up in everything. I mean its one good way to get rid of junkies, but I do find it super odd how it just sort of sprang up overnight.

I personally believe it's a little bit of Column A and a little bit of Column B: at heart its definitely chink fuckery, but it's sponsored and distributed by our totally not corrupt government that surely looks out for our best interest.

On a related note, my exact previous reply can be copied verbatim to theorize my personal opinion on the origins of COVID-19.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Fleischmann–Pons experiment (Muh "Cold Fusion") was not "fusion" but possibly some interaction between Pallidium Hydride and the decay product forming an unknown intermediate.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I heard someone refer to the X-Files as a “grimoire” for this reason.

You just reminded me how The V for vendetta movie adaptation changed the reason for the bri'ish government becoming shittier as well as the year it was set in. Originally it was nuke war as the reason IIRC but Coincidentally it just so happened to be changed to a global viral pandemic set in 2020.

 

[celebrityskin]

One I saw recently and I think might be true- the adult "age gap" discourse (e.g shaming 30 year old men for dating 20 year old women, the Leonardo DiCaprio stuff) is a psyop by older single women to shame men into dating older (ideally them).

Elder millennials are incredibly intimidated by 20-25 year women. And there's definitely a link between the rise in loneliness/sexual dissatisfaction and the policing of other people's sex lives.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

One I saw recently and I think might be true- the adult "age gap" discourse (e.g shaming 30 year old men for dating 20 year old women, the Leonardo DiCaprio stuff) is a psyop by older single women to shame men into dating older (ideally them).

Elder millennials are incredibly intimidated by 20-25 year women. And there's definitely a link between the rise in loneliness/sexual dissatisfaction and the policing of other people's sex lives.

Isn't the Leonardo DiCaprio age gap thing something that is largely discussed on Twitter? Seems like that's where I've seen the most discussion on it. If so, it would make sense given that 30-something year old neurotic millennial women are supposedly behind a lot of the mob mentality there.

 

[actually a cat]

I don't believe that aliens from outer space/extraterrestrials are visiting earth in UFOs and/or abducting people.

After 30ish years of studying the phenomena, I have come to the conclusion that there is a non-human intelligence that is native to this planet. It sometimes interacts with certain people for reasons that we can't ascertain. I would suspect that the reason is maybe societal or social manipulation. Most of the things the "aliens" tell "abductees" are outright lies or is just regurgitated hippy space-brothers bullshit.

But, for whatever reason the aforementioned intelligence (or else, the powers that be) want us to think that it's physical aliens in nuts and bolts spacecraft from outer space. There is a real vested interest put forth in pushing that theory even though it is the one most likely to be wrong, for various reasons.

I can't prove any of this.

/schizopost

 

[Screamer_2]

One I saw recently and I think might be true- the adult "age gap" discourse (e.g shaming 30 year old men for dating 20 year old women, the Leonardo DiCaprio stuff) is a psyop by older single women to shame men into dating older (ideally them).

Elder millennials are incredibly intimidated by 20-25 year women. And there's definitely a link between the rise in loneliness/sexual dissatisfaction and the policing of other people's sex lives.

I don't know where it fits into "conspiracy theory" but it's definitely a promoted narratives.

Women as they age out of child baring ages hate the fact that men aren't also aging out of it. So the whole dynamic of attraction shifts. Media is used to promote various "Social goods" or whatever you want to call it.

Also worth noting how the media also likes to have TV shows and films about 50 year old women who can get an endless supply of ripped 23 year old dudes because they're such great sexual partners. That's clear propaganda to try and convince young dudes to bang old ladies.

While some women as they get older may develop a strategy to get laid by basically just offering sex to younger guys. It has limits and only really works on guys who struggle to get laid. Which isn't the ripped Chads depicted.

 

[Kiwisee]

One I saw recently and I think might be true- the adult "age gap" discourse (e.g shaming 30 year old men for dating 20 year old women, the Leonardo DiCaprio stuff) is a psyop by older single women to shame men into dating older (ideally them).

Elder millennials are incredibly intimidated by 20-25 year women. And there's definitely a link between the rise in loneliness/sexual dissatisfaction and the policing of other people's sex lives.

This makes a lot of sense once you see it through the lenses of eliminating dating competition. It’s a tactic that goes back centuries when you think about how much it was women who engaged in the most “slut shaming”.


The big conspiracy I believe in is that every western political party has been infiltrated by pedophiles who are trying to get their vices normalized.

It’s part of the reason why the whole “sex work is real work” feels like a psy-op to normalize sex trafficking to the point of ensuring that no one cares about it anymore.

 

[BirdUp]

the FBI murdered MLK

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Well there was this one time in 1865 where a handful of Confederate sympathizers plotted to kill the President, Vice President, and Secretary of State to decapitate the Union government because they were deeply resentful they lost the war. I'd call that the definition of a conspiracy.